The Wayback Machine is run by tranny pedophiles

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About 6 months ago I was seriously considering giving IA some money because they provide a valuable service with the preservation of stuff like vintage electronics books and computer documentation, along with vintage magazines. Since learning that one of IA's big wigs is related to Taylor Lorenz and that the Wayback Machine was purged due to Keffals' personal army screeching at IA, I no longer have the desire to give them any financial support.

Same. IA was actually on my list for a major donation this year, but all of the above have made sure they will never see a single shekel from me.
 
About 6 months ago I was seriously considering giving IA some money because they provide a valuable service with the preservation of stuff like vintage electronics books and computer documentation, along with vintage magazines. Since learning that one of IA's big wigs is related to Taylor Lorenz and that the Wayback Machine was purged due to Keffals' personal army screeching at IA, I no longer have the desire to give them any financial support.
Ah nice, it's good to see some information on her relatives that actually checks out. Looks like Roger MacDonald's birthdate is 1951-12-07 and as of September 2020, he lived at 2867 24th St, San Francisco, CA. He may well have moved since then.
 
The loophole then I mentioned in an earlier post still work for now.

Btw, it's also work for Taylor Lorenz's account.
I can't even load archive.ph/* on Wayback, I assume because many thousands of URLs have been re-saved.

It would be a little shocking if they close this loophole, but instead of banning archive.today, they could run a script on every archive.whatever submission that checks the actual site being saved against a ban list. And they can delete previous ones.
 
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I can't even load archive.ph/* on Wayback, I assume because many thousands of URLs have been re-saved.

It would be a little shocking if they close this loophole, but instead of banning archive.md, they could run a script on every archive.whatever submission that checks the actual site being saved against a ban list. And they can delete previous ones.
Sometimes, the load works on my side after hitting refresh a couple of times. Btw, uploading archives on GhostArchive doesn't seem to work on my side. https://web.archive.org/web/20221126193503/https://ghostarchive.org/archive/GSl2B
 
This is verification for my Patron Services Red (Internet Archive) request (743167) URL/URL path to exclude: [twitter shit] (and all subdirectories) time period of account ownership: 2019-08-15 to 2022-12-05 time period to exclude: 2019-08-15 to 2022-12-05
Christ, is it really THAT easy to destroy history on sites that aren't yours that all you need to do is toss them some patreon shekels? What a joke.
 
I've given up on the Internet Archive. Running a big famous operation like that is incompatible with trying to save everything. If you complain about your consent accident showing up on there, they just take it down, because they don't have time for that shit.

I also doubt they'll be around in 200 years. Makes me think about how manuscripts were preserved in the Middle Ages. It was hundreds of tiny monasteries copying stuff more or less as a hobby, not one huge centralized archive like the Library of Alexandria.

At least they're transparent about their bias. The only thing worse than being useless is pretending not to be.
 
I've given up on the Internet Archive. Running a big famous operation like that is incompatible with trying to save everything. If you complain about your consent accident showing up on there, they just take it down, because they don't have time for that shit.

I also doubt they'll be around in 200 years. Makes me think about how manuscripts were preserved in the Middle Ages. It was hundreds of tiny monasteries copying stuff more or less as a hobby, not one huge centralized archive like the Library of Alexandria.

At least they're transparent about their bias. The only thing worse than being useless is pretending not to be.
Yeah, too bad we can't create a fork from the Wayback Machine. Sure there's Archive.md and GhostArchive but they aren't popular as the Wayback Machine.

On the other hand, by removing Kiwi Farms from the Wayback Machine. They might have probably started a Streisand effect and more people wanted to know more about LFJ, Lucas.
 
According to Archiveteam, the Wayback Machine had 57 petabytes of data about a year ago, so let's make it 60 petabytes now. 60 petabytes is 60,000,000 gigabytes. Backblaze says they pay about $0.014 US per gigabyte now, so that's $840,000. In practice it would be more, because you would need backplanes, and you would probably want cases for the drives with fans. So maybe a million dollars as a naive estimate and 2 million minimum when it's all said and done.

That's not as expensive as I was imagining. Makes me think there are already "dark" copies of a lot of the stuff out there that (formerly?) wealthy people are sitting on. The real problem comes in a generation or two when the data needs to be copied to new media. Storage cost is still going down but not as fast as it did in the past, and there's no reason to think it will continue to go down. It's not magic. Someone has to actually figure out how to cram more bits into the same space, and someone has to pay them to make the attempt in the first place.

Of course, you could lower the cost by only copying a selection of the data, but then you'd have a biased archive. I think around here, making an unbiased archive is one of the main motivations for even thinking about forking archive.org. You have to preserve the original concept of the Wayback Machine, which was a fully automated system that spidered the Web and saved everything it accessed. And you'd have to make it public, which, as I said earlier in this thread, invites troon antics. I mean, look around. If it's not troons, it's other degens fucking with you. So the cost of building a fork is only half the problem.

And there's yet another problem that I only fully understood after reading a bunch of the archive.today guy's posts: saving stuff from normie shitholes like Facebook and Reddit. Those sites have anti-bot code that is continuously being updated, so he has to keep making changes to his code to defeat their anti-bot measures. He has to pay for a lot of IP addresses, he has to tweak his software stack, and he relies on reports from users to know when normie shit isn't being saved correctly.

Having said all that, I'm nonetheless encouraged by what I see around here. If you believe in building an unbiased fork, do it. Don't make it public, at least not right away. Budget in the cost of copying everything to new media every generation. Maybe it's pointless, since you won't care when you're dead whether your archive is unbiased and survives, but then so is everything, right? If you enjoy saving shit then do it.
 
Once upon a time I would have felt sorry for IA and probably even made a donation to help out, but fuck 'em.

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According to Archiveteam, the Wayback Machine had 57 petabytes of data about a year ago, so let's make it 60 petabytes now. 60 petabytes is 60,000,000 gigabytes. Backblaze says they pay about $0.014 US per gigabyte now, so that's $840,000. In practice it would be more, because you would need backplanes, and you would probably want cases for the drives with fans. So maybe a million dollars as a naive estimate and 2 million minimum when it's all said and done.

That's not as expensive as I was imagining. Makes me think there are already "dark" copies of a lot of the stuff out there that (formerly?) wealthy people are sitting on. The real problem comes in a generation or two when the data needs to be copied to new media. Storage cost is still going down but not as fast as it did in the past, and there's no reason to think it will continue to go down. It's not magic. Someone has to actually figure out how to cram more bits into the same space, and someone has to pay them to make the attempt in the first place.
I'm hoping we see a better technology come out that beats HDDs, SSDs, tape, etc. in cost and longevity and can be used by normies. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon. HDD density should go up by 5x over the next decade or so. Maybe that's not fast enough for some companies. There is no magic but continuing exponential data growth creates demand, a strong motivation to cram more bits into less space for less money.

If your archive discards all video, maybe it will have a more manageable growth rate. It's amazing how much useful information you can fit into a megabyte when there are no videos and images involved, other than some space-efficient SVG content.
 
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I am surprised none of you have mentioned the mega gay cringefest that was the Internet Archive attempt to gaslight everyone into thinking "evil reactionary conservatives" were gonna censor the whole internet and the heroic and pure folks of the IA were the only people to stop it that was their Wayforward project last year.



Tl;Dr Section 230 would get repealed, then the entire world would become LITERALLY 1984 (Down to the physical copies of the book being destroyed and some faggot getting arrested for distributing it en masse in digital format via a hack in the mid 2040's)

Among the other little virtue signals and shows of Current Thing they also refused to name China as demanding people's personal info from companies, instead saying the "Republic of East Asia" obtained access to all it's citizen's data. And the US withdrew from all climate accords in 2031 because... that is related to internet freedom? Somehow?

The best part is that, checking it again, they changed both the site AND THE ARCHIVE of their stupid little project to "retcon" some details. Like how Google and Facebook were apparently taken down by a "Monopoly Comission" but SOMEHOW the evil "Global News Monopoly" which is literally suposed to be made up of some 70% of all the world's media orgs got away with it. You can still see info about the supposed "Monopilies Commission" if you use their gay little "wayforward machine" to try and access Youtube though, so obviously no one smart was in charge. Or the entire thing was such a massive flop no one cared enoguh to do a good job.

The entire thing was a complete and total failure as a marketing gimmick to beg for money and attention. They haven't done shit since February. Almost a shame, I would have loved it if they had gotten a little bit of traction just to see how hard they would twist themselves to explain why it is ok when they decide to delete shit off the internet.
 
I bump this thread to mention what the latest rant the Wayback Machine blogged about the Hachette vs Internet Archive.

We’re standing up for the digital rights of all libraries in court! On Monday at 1pm ET, the Southern District of New York will hear oral argument in Hachette v. Internet Archive, the lawsuit against our library and the longstanding library practice of controlled digital lending, brought by 4 of the world’s largest publishers.
Too soon to said the Joker catchphrase "You get what you fuckin' desserve"?
 
Internet Archive hasn't been as useful it was before about 2012 or so due to so many java heavy websites - try to use it for It also always sucked for archiving most forums. And while archive.is is pretty nice (except for the stupid feud he had with Brave browser for a couple months), it isn't automatic, and not as comprehensive as Internet Archive.
This post is ancient, but I find IA to be useful when looking up older material from the '90s and the 2000s that's related to STEM subjects, gaming and technology and entertainment. Same thing with their archive.org domain with older video, text/book and photographic/magazine materials (at least until that retarded Star Wars soyboy author forced them to use a fucking system to check out books and got rid of a lot of the good stuff. It isn't outright shit and still is pretty decent, but I still am salty about that). archive.ph shines when it comes to archiving political websites and the like since that is constantly being "corrected" and removed from the record. It's good to have a site that allows users to archive actual current events instead of eating the narrative TPTB want use to hear, but the Internet Archive, despite the readily apparent poz, does have it's uses. That being said I never have nor will give them money because of the bullshit they are pulling.
 
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