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Saddam Hussain Obama said:
what game is even worth playing these days the only good games do not require your stupid ultra graphics cards INSTALL LINUX
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I did, I went full time Linux for a year. It sucked. Or at least Ubuntu Disco Dingo sucked hardcore. Fighting replicating, unkillable VLC processes, obscure boot flags to get it even working on a mainstream Intel platform, and memory leaks I had to track down and diagnose myself because there was no documentation on them. The only thing I took out of the entire ordeal was, if I was ever going to do that again, definitely stick to LTS.

Also Photoshop CS6 runs like ass in Wine, I don't have the brain plasticity to learn GIMP (oldfag problem). iTunes similarly runs like ass (oldfag problem). And game performance not being up to Windows level is also not a meme. I hate Microsoft, but Linux, at least when I gave it a sincere try, had distinct downsides of its own.
 
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barrow greeter said:
I did, I went full time Linux for a year. It sucked. Or at least Ubuntu Disco Dingo sucked hardcore. Fighting replicating, unkillable VLC processes, obscure boot flags to get it even working on a mainstream Intel platform, and memory leaks I had to track down and diagnose myself because there was no documentation on them. The only thing I took out of the entire ordeal was, if I was ever going to do that again, definitely stick to LTS.

Also Photoshop CS6 runs like ass in Wine, I don't have the brain plasticity to learn GIMP (oldfag problem). iTunes similarly runs like ass (oldfag problem). And game performance not being up to Windows level is also not a meme. I hate Microsoft, but Linux, at least when I gave it a sincere try, had distinct downsides of its own.
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do linux mint not jewbuntu also ITUNES LMAO
 
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Saddam Hussain Obama said:
what game is even worth playing these days the only good games do not require your stupid ultra graphics cards
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I agree with you about modern games, however my stupid ultra graphics card helps me run ~11 billion mods each on dank older games. Windows helps me do that too.
 
Some info about Windows 12

The next major iteration of Windows could launch as soon as next year, sources say​

  • Microsoft is preparing the next version of Windows for release
  • Codenamed Hudson Valley, it could launch as Windows 12
  • AI features, powered by ChatGTP, tipped to play important role
  • Battery life could be extended by as much as 50%


Your PC could soon be treated to a slew of new AI-powered features, a huge battery life boost, and a radical new design. Microsoft is widely believed to be building the next-generation of its desktop operating system, dubbed Windows 12, ahead of a release in the second half of 2024.
Microsoft just confirmed plans to start charging Windows 10 users a monthly fee to guarantee critical security patches and bug fixes, so it makes sense that as it's preparing to retire one operating system, it’s also looking to launch the next iteration of Windows.


The update, codenamed Hudson Valley internally, looks set to bring “groundbreaking” new Artificial Intelligence (AI) features to your desktop PC, laptop, and tablet, sources told Windows Central.
Microsoft looks set to bring AI to the fore with its next major version of Windows. Having invested $10 billion into OpenAI, the company behind ChatGTP, Microsoft has already started to roll out chatbots powered by large-language models across its products.
Windows 11 already boasts a number of ChatGTP-powered features, including a first-generation version of the Windows Copilot that uses generative AI to put together comprehensive answers to questions, summarise emails, and create How To tutorials for your PC
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Known as Windows Copilot, which can summarise emails, generate content, forward-plan and much more, can already be found in the Microsoft Edge web browser and Microsoft Office applications.
An improved Copilot could be baked into Windows 12, constantly working in the background and monitoring your actions and habits to understand the context behind any requests. It could also proactively jumpstart workflows for you.

Those familiar with the functionality describe the AI capabilities as “groundbreaking”.
AI will enable natural language searches across the operating system. So, instead of searching for the exact title of a Word document, you could search for a document that “was created last week and contains a chart about Q4 revenue” or “the PDF that Matt sent on WhatsApp on Monday”.
Task View, which lets you scroll through a timeline of your active windows and past documents, will be enhanced with advanced search features too. You’ll be able to search for “Q1 earnings” and every instance where that term can be found in the windowed documents in your history reappear for you to open with a click, sources within Microsoft claim.

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Other AI-powered additions to the operating system include Super Resolution, Windows Central reports. This uses artificial intelligence to upscale lower-resolution videos and games in real-time.
Microsoft is also looking to supercharge Live Caption, so that its AI can translate several different languages in real-time during a video call, video, or phone call.
If you need an indication of the unprecedented role that AI will play within Windows 12, the Redmond-based firm will even use machine learning to improve the appearance of your wallpapers, tipsters say.
AI will analyse the picture you’ve set as your desktop background and try to identify different layers in the image (separating a subject in the foreground from the background, for example) so that it can apply a parallax effect that shifts as your cursor moves on-screen.
The built-in gyroscope found in a handheld can also adjust the parallax effect, like Apple does on iPhone and iPad.
Improvements to battery list also rank high on Microsoft’s To Do list. Upgrades to the Energy Saver mode could extend battery life by as much as 50% on certain hardware, sources claim.Of course, your mileage with theHudson Valley update will vary as battery life depends on your usage and the age of the lithium-ion cell in your device.
Nevertheless,those with Windows-powered tablets and laptops will likely be glad to hear that battery life is such a priority for Microsoft.
A dramatically redesigned user interface is also being tested for Windows 12, although reports disagree about whether this ambitious new appearance will make it into the final product.
The most radical redesign will see elements of the Taskbar, like the System Tray, relocated to the top of the screen. This would be similar to macOS, which has quick toggles to some of the most common system settings, including Wi-Fi controls, Bluetooth, volume in the top right-hand corner. The existence of this dramatic new design was first reported by ExtremeTech.
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barrow greeter said:
I get anxiety thinking about the end of Win10 support.
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I'm dreading dealing with the PCs of family members when win11 hits (or worse, doesn't, if their machines don't support win11). Thankfully the only context I have to personally worry about that in is that of a handful of domain-attached machines, so I 1. don't have to worry about personal M.S. accounts being forced since everything is using domain-defined users and 2. I can manage problematic default behaviors with group policies.

Unfortunately, that does mean dealing with domain controller upgrades or replacements, and dealing with Microsoft's per-core licensing scheme once my Server 2019 hypervisor and VMs lose support.
 
Desu Mountain said:
Reminder that Microsoft's AI is trained to hate white people as a matter of company policy.
When you install Windows 12 your computer will literally start hating you.
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I don’t think W12 will catch on, it will most likely require a CPU with AI which will be expensive and no business wants to spend a lot of money on a minuscule gain.
 
I looked up that whole "extended support" thing for Win10 and there's a tiny bit more information now:

ESU applies to Win10 22H2 only, and works pretty much just like Win7 ESU. Three years of paid updates, renewed yearly. So the longest you could get out of this would be until October 2028.

So this wouldn't even be the longest-supported Win10 version even if you paid up for all three years - LTSC 2019 and various IOT versions last longer.
I really wonder who the target end-user audience is for this. I'm guessing people who don't have a "Win11-compatible" computer (i.e. no TPM) and refuse to buy a new one. But will this ESU really be cheaper?

EDIT: I guess the other audience is people with Intel big.LITTLE CPUs (sounds like a NAMBLA thing) that aren't supported on anything but the newest Win10 build, and don't want to go to Win11.
 
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Desu Mountain said:
Reminder that Microsoft's AI is trained to hate white people as a matter of company policy.
When you install Windows 12 your computer will literally start hating you.
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Spooky. I'm pretty much reconciled to moving to linux (again) by 2025.
 
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since 10 support is probably gonna be phased out in the next couple years, I'd probably have to get to work on debloating 11 (or simply just switching over to Debian/SUSE/Fedora)
 
barrow greeter said:
Spooky. I'm pretty much reconciled to moving to linux (again) by 2025.
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I plan on building an all AMD build and making the transition then as well. If things keep going the way they are I think this will be my last computer.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Win12 - AI Hellscape
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its going to work out the same way it did with Cortona, features absolutely nobody uses which are incredibly obtrusive to using the OS. Like the default search bar which tries to search using Bing instead of searching with File Explorer. Now instead of Bing it will just query it into some type of LLM driven chatbot that again nobody will use.

Welcome to the era of FOSS accelerationism. Windows will become so broken and unuseable that people will switch over to Mac or Linux.
 
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barrow greeter said:
I did, I went full time Linux for a year. It sucked. Or at least Ubuntu Disco Dingo sucked hardcore. Fighting replicating, unkillable VLC processes, obscure boot flags to get it even working on a mainstream Intel platform, and memory leaks I had to track down and diagnose myself because there was no documentation on them. The only thing I took out of the entire ordeal was, if I was ever going to do that again, definitely stick to LTS.

Also Photoshop CS6 runs like ass in Wine, I don't have the brain plasticity to learn GIMP (oldfag problem). iTunes similarly runs like ass (oldfag problem). And game performance not being up to Windows level is also not a meme. I hate Microsoft, but Linux, at least when I gave it a sincere try, had distinct downsides of its own.
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My copy of CS5 works really well on wine.
Although I’ve been using Linux for over 15 yrs at this point.

Currently running Artix (s6 init) and is great. Though Mint is the best for normal users as well as not sucking major ass as with everything Ubuntu
 
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Ayana Otonashi said:
since 10 support is probably gonna be phased out in the next couple years, I'd probably have to get to work on debloating 11 (or simply just switching over to Debian/SUSE/Fedora)
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Use Rufus to setup a Windows 11 install USB. Check remove 4gb ram, secure boot and TPM 2.0. Check remove requirement for online account. Check disable data collection. Check disable automatic bitlocker encryption(slows down SSD access by up to 45%!).

Congratulations. Windows 11 is now just Windows 10 with a new coat of paint.
 
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Desu Mountain said:
Reminder that Microsoft's AI is trained to hate white people as a matter of company policy.
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It may not feel like it now, but all this woke stuff breaks the Civil Rights Act in a myriad of ways. It just hasn't been tested in court yet because conservatives prefer surrendering over fighting. However, America First Legal's starting to test things in court. We may see the end of this..

Desu Mountain said:
When you install Windows 12 your computer will literally start hating you.
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At long last, Windows is catching up to Slackware.
 
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barrow greeter said:
And game performance not being up to Windows level is also not a meme. I hate Microsoft, but Linux, at least when I gave it a sincere try, had distinct downsides of its own.
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I've been using Linux for almost a decade and I hate the fact that in order to get a """decent""" (note the quotes) desktop experience I have to use Windows. I cannot speak for games but Linux does have it's fair share of problems: the autism of most Linuxfags certainly doesn't help. The reality is that modern computing fucking sucks and I just want to go full schizo mode and abandon modern technology altogether.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
Win8 - Portable/Tablet Faggotry
Win10 - Big Brother Nightmare
Win11 - EdgeOS
Win12 - AI Hellscape
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Windows 8 worked great with a third party Start menu such as Classic Start. You could easily ignore all the Metro niggerish. I used Windows 8 from the last public beta until Windows 8.1 Update 1 and never had problems. It was a slightly faster Windows 7 and had slightly better battery life.
Kosher Dill said:
I looked up that whole "extended support" thing for Win10 and there's a tiny bit more information now:

ESU applies to Win10 22H2 only, and works pretty much just like Win7 ESU. Three years of paid updates, renewed yearly. So the longest you could get out of this would be until October 2028.

So this wouldn't even be the longest-supported Win10 version even if you paid up for all three years - LTSC 2019 and various IOT versions last longer.
I really wonder who the target end-user audience is for this. I'm guessing people who don't have a "Win11-compatible" computer (i.e. no TPM) and refuse to buy a new one. But will this ESU really be cheaper?

EDIT: I guess the other audience is people with Intel big.LITTLE CPUs (sounds like a NAMBLA thing) that aren't supported on anything but the newest Win10 build, and don't want to go to Win11.
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Maybe people can do a registry hack to get the updates for free like they did on Windows XP and Windows 7.
Ayana Otonashi said:
since 10 support is probably gonna be phased out in the next couple years, I'd probably have to get to work on debloating 11 (or simply just switching over to Debian/SUSE/Fedora)
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Or just be one of those Win7 forever people.
777Flux said:
its going to work out the same way it did with Cortona, features absolutely nobody uses which are incredibly obtrusive to using the OS. Like the default search bar which tries to search using Bing instead of searching with File Explorer. Now instead of Bing it will just query it into some type of LLM driven chatbot that again nobody will use.

Welcome to the era of FOSS accelerationism. Windows will become so broken and unuseable that people will switch over to Mac or Linux.
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Thankfully I saw the writing on the wall with Win10 and made a push to switch to Linux completely back in 2018. I honestly never imagined it would get this bad, though.
FailurePersonifiedV2 said:
My copy of CS5 works really well on wine.
Although I’ve been using Linux for over 15 yrs at this point.

Currently running Artix (s6 init) and is great. Though Mint is the best for normal users as well as not sucking major ass as with everything Ubuntu
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I tried running CS2 on wine and it worked but if I minimized the window it would get all fucked up. I have found that wine has issues MDI applications in general though, not just Photoshop CS2.
Sperg Coalition said:
I've been using Linux for almost a decade and I hate the fact that in order to get a """decent""" (note the quotes) desktop experience I have to use Windows. I cannot speak for games but Linux does have it's fair share of problems: the autism of most Linuxfags certainly doesn't help. The reality is that modern computing fucking sucks and I just want to go full schizo mode and abandon modern technology altogether.
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It really does suck.
 
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