The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

[ZMOT]

The issue is not really the anticheat itself in the sense of Epic/Valve/Mihoyo spying on you. It's more that kernel level anticheat is a RING 0 DRIVER that TALKS TO SHIT ON THE BAREBACK INTERNET. So it's very often a target for malicious actors who, if they find an exploit in it, can basically get total control of your system remotely.

Anyway, you shouldn't play those games because they're slop. The anticheat is a good secondary reason but not one of these modern games with anticheat is worth playing.

not that it matters much, if you willingly run any software locally most windows users do so with admin permission and without any firewall or other checks. ring 0 makes zero difference in this case.
same people btw that are used to download random programs off the internet...

Does anyone else have games that use kernal level anticheat, alot of youtube fags say you should not play those games becaues the anti-cheat operates at the highest security level on your computer but I don't know if its just paranoia.

like everything when it comes to security, what could they gain and what price? could they backdoor your computer? yeah sure, so from most people they'd get their porn browsing habit and what they write in discord (most people don't play on their work pc). now contrast that to the PR hit, let alone legal shitstorm that will follow.

TLDR: it's not worth it given the possible data.

besides, if they want that data it's much easier to scrape it during transit (where do you think your internet backend hardware comes from?) or your phone you most likely also do business with. and if all that fails they'll just buy it, grab it from the companies they're a shareholder of or whatever agent they have embedded in government and academia.

 

[The Ugly One]

Anyway, you shouldn't play those games because they're slop.

Helldivers II is the greatest game of all time, actually.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

A Windows Insider user discovers an undocumented ‘Shared audio’ feature in the latest build — quick setting allows you to play audio through multiple outputs

At the moment, Windows does not support a native way of outputting audio to multiple different devices. A workaround involving the built-in Stereo Mix feature often does not work and can result in unwanted audio feedback. There are some third-party apps you can download, like OBS, Voicemeeter, or Audio Router, but they can get complicated and a bit too difficult for most people who simply want to share their audio experience.

 

[George Lucas]

A Windows Insider user discovers an undocumented ‘Shared audio’ feature in the latest build — quick setting allows you to play audio through multiple outputs

Compelling. Still not upgrading to Windows 11.

 

[They were once men]

So I switched to Win11 IOT Enterprise from Win11 Pro with massgrave script and I still seem to be getting cumulative updates is this normal for IOT?

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

So I switched to Win11 IOT Enterprise from Win11 Pro with massgrave script and I still seem to be getting cumulative updates is this normal for IOT?

Yes, it will still be getting cumulative updates since these are security updates.
The only updates LTSC won't get are the big disruptive feature updates.

 

[HX-2]

Out of curiosity, is there any advantage of using Win11 over Win10 on a gaming laptop? I used Win11 a couple years ago and jumped ship ASAP back to Win10

 

[Retard Marine]

Out of curiosity, is there any advantage of using Win11 over Win10 on a gaming laptop? I used Win11 a couple years ago and jumped ship ASAP back to Win10

Eventually newer games will require libraries and features the last update of Windows 10 doesn't have. Also looks like to me it simply isn't possible to enable DirectStorage BypassIO (direct transfering of data from a NVMe drive to GPU memory) on Win10 or the last Win10-based LTSC/Server editions even though some of the latest games using DirectStorage APIs do at least run.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's usually about 2 years past EOL that we see new software coming out that requires new operating system features, so you can probably keep running Win 10 until 2027 or thereabouts.

 

[Slav Power]

It's usually about 2 years past EOL that we see new software coming out that requires new operating system features, so you can probably keep running Win 10 until 2027 or thereabouts.

At the same time I doubt that Win10's deprecation will be the same as Win 7/8.1's. When Windows 7 was properly discontinued in 2020, Windows 10 was a completely different beast under the hood. Same with 8.1 when it was discontinued in 2023. By comparison, Windows 11 is barely different from Windows 10 under the hood, so if we are to assume the software deprecation for 10 will go as it did for 7, it will either have to be:
a) Windows 11 will get major under-the-hood rewrites that won't be backwards compatible (unlikely as Satya fired just about all people that did actual work on Windows)
b) Software will start arbitrarily enforcing version restrictions even if their software is still 100% compatible with Windows 10 (more likely scenario)

Even now, 4 years after the release of Windows 11, I don't think there's a single piece of software around that depends on a feature that only exists in 11 but not in 10, and I doubt this'll change anytime soon. 10 and 11's codebases are much closer to each other than 7's to 10's. Hell, there's been barely any crucial changes between Win10 21H2 and 22H2 so the LTSC versions of 10 are bound to be fine for more than 2 years past Win10's official EOL, as long as companies won't decide to arbitrarily cut support for it even when there's no need to.

 

[Betonhaus]

Windows 11 could've been a service pack

 

[One Angry Computer]

Windows 11 could've been a service pack

Wasn't M$ first goal was exactly that? To stay on Win10 and roll incremental updates until the company goes under, or the heat death of the universe?

Bunch o' jeety liars, that's what they are now.

 

[Betonhaus]

Wasn't M$ first goal was exactly that? To stay on Win10 and roll incremental updates until the company goes under, or the heat death of the universe?

Bunch o' jeety liars, that's what they are now.

Windows 10 was supposed to be the last version of Windows, until some major change on technology forces a major rewrite (such as AR kicking off or something).

Turns out that wasn't profitable.

 

[Baraka Obama]

By comparison, Windows 11 is barely different from Windows 10 under the hood

I'm not sure this is really true. There are some new syscalls, but more importantly there are new APIs that don't exist in Windows 10 and haven't been community backported (yet?), plus the TPM & memory integrity enforcement might mean some software just stops working with some new security focused update if you don't have hardware support for that.

They have also been willing to make bigger changes per 6 month release, a new one could come out that adds more new stuff.

Windows 11 could've been a service pack

The point seemed to be to enforce a hardware minimum spec. If it had been a service pack it would have been more annoying and confusing than continuing to support Windows 10 for 4+ years and branching off with new features.