The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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I mean, if you want Windows users to despise Linux, please do recommend this steaming pile of horseshit.
98SE was Peak Microsoft.
Hard disagree on that.
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This was the pinnacle of desktop operating systems.
It only got worse from there. :(
 
This was the pinnacle of desktop operating systems.
It only got worse from there. :(
No it was half-baked and had worse USB support than 98SE. It's shortcomings were the reason we had Windows Me foisted on us and Active Directory was much more functionally mature in Server 2003.

XP (NT 5.1) would have been my choice if it wasn't so goddamned ugly. Mac-inspired bullshit.
 
Hard disagree on that.
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This was the pinnacle of desktop operating systems.
It only got worse from there.
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My memory is kind of hazy on my actual experience using Windows 2000, but aesthetically I'm still nostalgic about it so I'll have to agree.

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No it was half-baked and had worse USB support than 98SE. It's shortcomings were the reason we had Windows Me foisted on us and Active Directory was much more functionally mature in Server 2003.
Ah, I don't even remember using USB much back when I had Windows 2000... I probably have a good opinion about it purely due to nostalgia and having forgotten any issues I had.


I'm not so fond of XP and even 7, maybe it's because I was a young retard back then and fucked my shit up all kinds of ways, but I remember being frustrated with them plenty of times and having to reinstall everything. That being said, I think 7 was much better than XP.

Windows 10 has had plenty of issues too. I still remember M$ somehow bricking audio in an update in such a way that my SPDIF output on my motherboard stopped working properly. Can't recall what update it was specifically, but afterwards when using the optical SPDIF output, the audio would just stutter every 2-3 seconds. The default file explorer and search are also horrifyingly ass on Windows 10, and I imagine they're much worse on Windows 11...

Maybe Windows has always had issues. Maybe operating systems are all bad and frustrating in their own ways...
 
That being said, I think 7 was much better than XP.
It very much was, as 7 was essentially Vista SP3, where Vista was the result of the disaster that was the Longhorn project where many of the core OS components got completely redone. Mostly for the better, since thanks to that we no longer have the worries of 9x/XP era where the OS could easily break over something benign, or that it could get completely pwned by clicking the wrong link. Since my family was piss poor when I was a kid, I started off on 98FE, then for many years we used XP, there was one PC that ran 2000 and then we all used 7, now 10 or 11 so I have a history of actually using those antiquated versions of Windows.

And yes when we had a family PC with XP and we connected it directly to the Internet via a USB modem it was getting pwned leading to drive formats. Lost some data that way but due to that PC having only 20GB of storage I would juggle shit on pendrives and then an external drive so I ended up saving a ton of memories that way. And of course the moment we got a router there were no more problems with the PC getting pwned thanks to it now being behind a NAT.
The default file explorer and search are also horrifyingly ass on Windows 10, and I imagine they're much worse on Windows 11...
Windows Search was always ass, I vividly remember trying to use XP's search function where it would roll that damn flashlight left and right and then give me zero search results. As far as file managers go, I've been using Total Commander for so long that I forgot Windows has a built-in file manager. TC+Everything is the ultimate file management combo for me, extra points for TC having Everything integration so it can leverage it for quicker searching and indexing. Another nice bit is that if you enable folder size indexing in Everything TC automatically pulls that to display them the moment you navigate the file system.

And yeah, W10 had a ton of issues and people bitched and moaned about it as much as they do about 11 today, so you are fully justified to shit into the mouths of any faggot that moans about how evil 11 is and how you need to ditch Windows NOW. No different than what was happening back in 2015, yet everyone gladly moved to 10.
Maybe operating systems are all bad and frustrating in their own ways...
They are, don't let the Linux cultists fool you that by switching you'll magically be free of any issues. Every OS has it's own quirks and annoyances so you're trading one poison for another.
 
It very much was, as 7 was essentially Vista SP3, where Vista was the result of the disaster that was the Longhorn project where many of the core OS components got completely redone.

Still to this day I have never seen NTFS in Windows 7 corrupt any file or file system on any drive without a hardware failure behind it.

I'm in cargo cult territory with it, and believe I will die thinking it infallible under non-retard conditions.
 
Dave Plummer from Dave's Garage is excusing Microsoft making M$ accounts mandatory to install in Windows 11. He's getting a lot of deserved flack on youtube and the tweet box.

Chris Titus has plans to release more ways to install local accounts only making Dave look dumb. I'm ok with that.
 
Dave Plummer from Dave's Garage is excusing Microsoft making M$ accounts mandatory to install in Windows 11. He's getting a lot of deserved flack on youtube and the tweet box.

> logs into Google
> go to www.youtube.com
> types up an angry comment:

"I'm not gonna sign up for a corporate account just to use their service so they can track my data!"

Windows 98 SE was dog shit. I spent more time rebooting my laptop from BSOD than actually using it back then.
 
Getting the urge to install 11 LTSC up from 10 LTSC 21H2. There's no real reason for me to, as my CPU is a Comet Lake-era model. The only thing that's holding me back is the fact that the UI is written in JavaScript.

Probably the most severe case of FOMO I've had in a while and it's really quite sad. Are there even any benefits for hardware over 10, except the Alder Lake CPU scheduler?
 
Dave Plummer from Dave's Garage is excusing Microsoft making M$ accounts mandatory to install in Windows 11. He's getting a lot of deserved flack on youtube and the tweet box.

Chris Titus has plans to release more ways to install local accounts only making Dave look dumb. I'm ok with that.
I feel like Chris secretly likes Windows because they always throw a curveball to solve and he just likes digging around and figuring out ways to circumvent them. And it's true, as long as Windows is still based on NT there will be a way to make local accounts. He may be an Archfag, he may have a horde of drooling mongoloids as followers that can't spend a picosecond without telling everyone they're using Linux and that you should use Linux when Linux isn't even mentioned (seriously, fuck these retards), but at least he has the balls to admit that no, you don't need to switch to Linux if you don't want to and if you use Windows it's fine.

Also the thing he posted before that (who would've thought he'd come back from BlueSky to X this fast?) is this.
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Careful Chris, you're treading on thin ice.
Getting the urge to install 11 LTSC up from 10 LTSC 21H2. There's no real reason for me to, as my CPU is a Comet Lake-era model. The only thing that's holding me back is the fact that the UI is written in JavaScript.

Probably the most severe case of FOMO I've had in a while and it's really quite sad. Are there even any benefits for hardware over 10, except the Alder Lake CPU scheduler?
Don't. I'm on 10 LTSC IoT 21H2 on an Alder Lake CPU (without any E-cores) and I'm just fine. If you don't feel like you're missing anything on 10, you don't need to jump to 11.
 
I was wondering if anyone knew if the Windows 10 media creation tool is kept up to date or will it need to receive a backlog of updates once Windows 10 is installed? I noticed the version number is still 22H2, which means 2022 second quarter, which is disconcerting.
 
I noticed the version number is still 22H2, which means 2022 second quarter, which is disconcerting.
That is accurate, the last revision of Windows 10 is 22H2, and the General Availability Channel version of it, the one that you're trying to install, will be EOL on October 14th.

Your three options for continued security updates are:

1) getting on the Extended Security Update program by:
a) paying Microsoft for it​
b) using a Microsoft account to get 1 year for free​
c) using Microsoft Activation Scripts to get 3 years for free without any online requirements​
2) Upgrading to Windows 11 and/or switching to Windows 11 IoT LTSC
3) Switching to Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 which is the Long Term Service Channel version of Windows 10 21H2 that will be supported until 2032.

Remember that 21H2, 22H2, 24H2 are just designations of major release cycles that include various feature updates, but they all have a given period of support. Think Debian versions, 11 and 12 still get security updates but 13 is the current actively maintained version.
 
That is accurate, the last revision of Windows 10 is 22H2, and the General Availability Channel version of it, the one that you're trying to install, will be EOL on October 14th.
So it doesn't come with the existing cumulative updates already integrated? You have to install them after installing the OS? If so, I find that to be absurd. They couldn't push out a new final build just before the end? That would mean any new install of 22H2 would be three years of updates behind.
 
They are, don't let the Linux cultists fool you that by switching you'll magically be free of any issues. Every OS has it's own quirks and annoyances so you're trading one poison for another
A bit hyperbolic innit, can't think of anyone who isn't a redditor or an equivalent that's unironically telling people this.
 
So it doesn't come with the existing cumulative updates already integrated?
My bad, got too hyperfixated on the whole 22H2 confusion. The Media Creation Tool builds the ISO on your system so it's possible that it pulls the cumulative updates as well, but according to Massgrave those ISO's can end up faulty and it's best to download the MSDN ones, to which they of course give links.
A bit hyperbolic innit, can't think of anyone who isn't a redditor or an equivalent that's unironically telling people this.
Maybe, or I'm just calling a spade a spade. They act like sleazy car salesmen that will keep talking about all the wonderful upsides and focus on nothing but the upsides to convince you to get something that's full of flaws that you'll only find after you got convinced. That's basically how all Linux cultists promote Linux everywhere they go. They insert themselves into videos/articles that criticize Windows, even if those videos/articles don't mention Linux in any way, and they never ever point to any issues that Linux may have for Windows users.

Go to any YouTube or news site comment section and you'll see what I mean, they always act the same and they'll always get pissy when you dare to point out how obnoxious and dishonest they are, and whenever you point out any valid issues of Linux that may affect your average Windows user they will go above and beyond to downplay it into a non-issue, anything to keep the image of Linux being problem free without outright saying it. Bonus points if they call you a Microsoft shill for daring to bring up Linux's shortcomings. It's one of those online groups where you could map out the average discussion chain on a flowgraph and it would always be accurate.
 
A bit hyperbolic innit, can't think of anyone who isn't a redditor or an equivalent that's unironically telling people this.
nope.
linuxfags aren't called linuxfags for nothing and they will die on the hill that linux is superior to windows in all aspects and all confusions a windows regular might face is a problem on their end.
while poodahar anal isn't really a example of a linuxfag his videos about linux do spawn a lot of these subhumans and you can see for yourself.
me? i ain't viewing his videos anymore, he's fat... and gay.
 
nope.
linuxfags aren't called linuxfags for nothing and they will die on the hill that linux is superior to windows in all aspects and all confusions a windows regular might face is a problem on their end.
while poodahar anal isn't really a example of a linuxfag his videos about linux do spawn a lot of these subhumans and you can see for yourself.
me? i ain't viewing his videos anymore, he's fat... and gay.
I saw that video in my recommended and decided to check out what the way you can apparently "run every Windows app" was (not actually watching Pootah's video since fuck him). The project is WinBoat. I read what it advertises both on the official website and the Github page and it doesn't seem all that special or innovative in making Windows shit more accessible in Linux. I personally don't think it's gonna make that much difference since there's already tons of other ways to get Windows stuff working on Linux (WINE, VM's...), many tried and true and well-documented.

If you're gonna mention that the purpose of the project is for "seamless intergration" compared to the other ways which require more tinkering and experimentaion, do you really think the person who needs something like fucking Microsoft Office is gonna find it better to run a Docker container or even understand the steps it takes to actually set this thing up rather than just using something like VirtualBox or VMWare?
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The project doesn't even currently support GPU passthrough. Anyone who's die-hard set on wanting as much Windows on their Linux machine is better off figuring out QEMU + KVM.

It's never been more easier getting Windows software on Linux. You just have to pick your struggle since all of the options suck in their own ways and this project will too.
 
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There's not much of a reason at all to get any windows 11 version post 23H2 anyway so this is a nothingburger until they drop support for it, but really now.

Mfw I've been using a "partially configured" Windows install that's been missing "critical setup" for over a year now
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Can anyone confirm if the Win 11 Pro account bypass works? You know where you try to use the domain to make an account.
 
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