The Writing Thread

[BrunoMattei]

I've gotta tell ya... the whole heccin' imposter syndrome thing is really fucking gay buddy. Pure 49 year old HR wine aunt cat lady on instagram energy. Unironically start doing meth if you just want "life experience" as some kind of retarded form of validation. It'll at least make you less of a bitch.

Nah, spending a decade attempting to troll /v/ and rant on Youtube about Nintendo supremacy is sufficient life experience for writing a clearly quantity-over-quality fantasy series with even less depth than Empress Theresa or Patrick's writing (Enjoy prison, stalker child!).

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Clearly, that Imposter Syndrome is earned.

Harsh but true.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Is referencing the Farms in your Fanfiction super gay?

 

[Castoreum]

Hi, am new to the thread. Just introducing myself.

I am working on a fantasy novel. It's a "for fun" project, but also a very srs endeavor. I am inspired by classic literature and poetry, Western folklore, and a LOT of Discworld. I would say it fits into the dark fantasy/adventure genre. It is ultimately meant to be a hopeful and uplifting story.

I've had to put it on hold for a few years because of family obligations. I'd show more of what I'm working on, but idk if I want to associate my public Internet persona with KF at this moment. Maybe I never will. I don't think I'll get it finished or even published for another 4-5 years. Likely more. Despite seriously beginning to write it down in 2020, I feel like I've been working on it my whole life.

I've already made lots of art and music for it and am about 100k words into the manuscript itself. It's a lot of fun to work on and makes my brain go brrrrrrr. Non-creative types will never understand.

Is anyone in this thread a published author? I try to just focus on developing my story, yet I can't help but ruminate on the future headache of finding a publisher. I think it's admirable to see people self-publish and then get picked up by a publishing house. I don't know if I should worry about having a plan in place or to really just ignore the thought until the manuscript is completed. I've never ever been published in my life and have no idea how it all works.

Anyway, herp da durr. Will be watching this thread.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Is referencing the Farms in your Fanfiction super gay?

Only when you do it.

 

[Commissar Fuklaw]

Hi, am new to the thread. Just introducing myself.

What's the point of this? Are you after headpats? Do you need to hear words from strangers to be motivated? You sound like the attention seeking type who infests reddit and small forums and groups who has the best story ever but just gosh darn it writing is so hard amirite? It's 'for fun' but I'm really serious about it guys! That's why I can justify not working on it! You guys get it, normie Joe six-packs who don't have an imagination just don't understand.

I'm not being mean to be mean. It's great you have this passion project but here's a couple of things you need to hear because I like helping people.

Stop worrying about publishing or posting any of it online. It's not finished for starters. All this ancillary work with the art and music is just an excuse to not be writing so write the fucking thing. There shouldn't be a line stroke or single note until every word of your story is done. Then you make other stuff. If the other stuff is more fun, then do that instead and just make a couple of pages of notes about the world and story.

Is this your first project? Because it sounds like a first project with all the hopes and dreams and ideas you've had for years rattling around. This is a trap. The thing is they're always without a doubt shit and the best thing to do is get it out of your system as fast as you can and move on. Trunk novels they're called. What comes next is always better.

I believe you can do it so stop making excuses and do the work!

Everybody want to be an author, but nobody want to write no long ass manuscript!
- Literary monster Ronnie Coleman

 

[Pomniman]

Nah, spending a decade attempting to troll /v/ and rant on Youtube about Nintendo supremacy is sufficient life experience for writing a clearly quantity-over-quality fantasy series with even less depth than Empress Theresa or Patrick's writing (Enjoy prison, stalker child!).

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Clearly, that Imposter Syndrome is earned.

Is that actually him? I forgot he had a thread despite having posted in it. Either way I stand by my recommendation of meth. We'll make a man out of him yet, boy.

Is referencing the Farms in your Fanfiction super gay?

Only if the balls touch.

 

[Castoreum]

yapping

Ah. Yeah, I see. Uh... I want to connect with ppl, tbh. Man, why you so mean.

 

[Harman Smith]

Is that actually him? I forgot he had a thread despite having posted in it. Either way I stand by my recommendation of meth.

Drugs are gay.

 

[Humble Architect]

Ah. Yeah, I see. Uh... I want to connect with ppl, tbh. Man, why you so mean.

The best writing advice I ever got was my best friend telling me my original draft sucked.

 

[Cat Funt]

Write like a heterosexual is my advice.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Ah. Yeah, I see. Uh... I want to connect with ppl, tbh. Man, why you so mean.

You're like the naivete' who stumbled in from his first year at private school, sneaking into a bar, and you see the fucking sleaziest and burnt out depraved writers formulating insane bullshit and you're like "Oh! Pleased to meet you sir's! Tell me everything about your trade and proper manners!" And everyone throws cigarettes and booze at ya temporarily lighting you on fire.

Is anyone in this thread a published author?

I have flirted with that several times. I lost count. It came down to (A) the guy was just bullshitting me the whole time or (B) the guy really started reading my shit and realized that it's too fucked up and doesn't play nice with the fag shit that passes as writing. My hypothesis is that it's a little bit of column A and B.

I was almost scammed once publishing but I didn't lose any rights or money. It was some half-assed thrown together publisher that I said yes to and all the guy did was setup a LuLu store and then sign it off to you. So, you're just putting shit on LuLu with some other guys branding and ads on it.

 

[Harman Smith]

You're like the naivete' who stumbled in from his first year at private school, sneaking into a bar, and you see the fucking sleaziest and burnt out depraved writers formulating insane bullshit and you're like "Oh! Pleased to meet you sir's! Tell me everything about your trade and proper manners!" And everyone throws cigarettes and booze at ya temporarily lighting you on fire.


I have flirted with that several times. I lost count. It came down to (A) the guy was just bullshitting me the whole time or (B) the guy really started reading my shit and realized that it's too fucked up and doesn't play nice with the fag shit that passes as writing. My hypothesis is that it's a little bit of column A and B.

I was almost scammed once publishing but I didn't lose any rights or money. It was some half-assed thrown together publisher that I said yes to and all the guy did was setup a LuLu store and then sign it off to you. So, you're just putting shit on LuLu with some other guys branding and ads on it.

Yeah a lot of ‘publishers’ are just scams. What you want to do is pitch your book to literary agents.

 

[Humble Architect]

I’ve never had time to finish my demented work or publish it but now, shit, I got the summer free.

Before my big move, I think I’m gonna get one of my three unfinished novels actually finished and published. Might be something, might be nothing, might be removed from stores, but at least it’ll be something I can say I did. Time to get some inspiration juice and get to it.

 

[BrunoMattei]

So far I've self-published 10 books with varying level of success. A few I removed because I thought they were dog shit and I only sold 1 copy of. Others have been more successful where I acknowledge this desire to engineer an absolute total nihilistic purity and expand on a divine philosophy of violence finally creating a new genre of horror on par with Lovecraft's cosmic horror. I am either at this level or approaching this level of weird micro-fame. And who knows? I could sell out or die trying to sell out or I could go down as a weirdo Cronenberg'd Lovecraft meets Kierkegaard blow my fucking brains out like in the ending to the Fly!

Ya' know, that kind of thing.

 

[Pomniman]

Drugs are gay.

And yet they'd still be an improvement for you.

Is anyone in this thread a published author?

Only in the loosest sense in that I've had various short stories, poems &c. in completely worthless online publications years ago. My novels (most of which can be found in one form or another on various parts of this site) are all too psychotic to be printed, though that hasn't stopped me from cranking out at least one every year or two.

Besides the 5 or so that are floating out there I'm sitting on two completed unpublished books now and writing a third just for the hell of it. It's more or less a lifelong addiction at this point.

 

[Feels Badman]

I'll make an anti-recommendation and say never read any books that explicitly try to teach you how you should write especially not the Stephen King one. The kinds of writers who put these things out are so far up their own asses so as to be entirely useless.

JK Rowling's video series On Writing was helpful for me, because she basically doesn't make any recommendations and just talks about her own process. At one point, she says explicitly that nobody can tell you how to write.

What struck me most was her attitude towards writing. A lot of people with that amount of money and fame would rest on their laurels, but she just wants to make good stories that people enjoy reading. It's like writing is part of her being. It made me realize I either have to quit writing or I have to be that, because anything in between is a waste of time.

 

[Pomniman]

JK Rowling's video series On Writing was helpful for me, because she basically doesn't make any recommendations and just talks about her own process. At one point, she says explicitly that nobody can tell you how to write.

What struck me most was her attitude towards writing. A lot of people with that amount of money and fame would rest on their laurels, but she just wants to make good stories that people enjoy reading. It's like writing is part of her being. It made me realize I either have to quit writing or I have to be that, because anything in between is a waste of time.

I'd even push back on the idea that writing has to be good or enjoyable. In fact, the worst and most painful writing is often the strongest not on a technical level but on a conceptual one. The only things that give the word power in a phenomenological sense are a clear vision and purity of purpose. As schizophrenic as this is going to sound, any text written with these will become a force unto itself even if no one reads it. Though she's tangentially right in that no one can teach you how to have those things and you either develop them on your own or don't.

 

[Feels Badman]

In fact, the worst and most painful writing is often the strongest not on a technical level but on a conceptual one. The only things that give the word power in a phenomenological sense are a clear vision and purity of purpose. As schizophrenic as this is going to sound, any text written with these will become a force unto itself even if no one reads it.

I'm not sure if this applies to every writer. It sounds very personal. I've read some truly awful garbage that obviously had purity of intent; the intent just wasn't any good.

 

[Pomniman]

I'm not sure if this applies to every writer. It sounds very personal. I've read some truly awful garbage that obviously had purity of intent; the intent just wasn't any good.

Nah, it's universal and applies to more than just fiction. It's just impossible to understand unless you've really seen Hell for yourself and understood its meaning. The profane is a portal to the transcendent because the human animal cannot reach Heaven without having first gone through Hell. But the rub is no one actually wants to go through Hell so they reject this truth.

 

[Feels Badman]

Nah, it's universal and applies to more than just fiction. It's just impossible to understand unless you've really seen Hell for yourself and understood its meaning. The profane is a portal to the transcendent because the human animal cannot reach Heaven without having first gone through Hell. But the rub is no one actually wants to go through Hell so they reject this truth.

Okay then. Good luck with your new meds.

But seriously, I find it impressive that you first say not to take writing advice because writers are too far up their own asses, then proceed to take a day trip up your own rectum to bring us this eternal writing wisdom. Amazing.