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There's no way to fix the Second Amendment. Let's just get rid of it​

Who says history doesn't repeat itself? It sure does when it comes to the aftermath of mass shootings.

After Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Orlando, Virginia Tech, Margery Stoneman Douglas, El Paso, Buffalo, Uvalde and so many others, it's always the same.

First, shock. Then, grief. Then, a demand for action. Then, the phony claim: Too bad, but we can't do anything about guns because of the Second Amendment. And then, nothing is done to prevent the next attack.

This time, could things be different? After the senseless assassination of 19 elementary school students and two teachers in Uvalde, Texas, senators of both parties are actually talking about a compromise on guns.

But don't hold your breath. No matter what they come up with, chances are still slim that there will be 10 Republicans willing to override the filibuster. (A total of 60 votes are needed to end a filibuster in the evenly-divided US Senate.)

Anything they agree on will probably just nibble around the edges of the gun issue. Sen. John Cornyn, the lead Republican negotiator, has already vetoed one of the most sensible proposals: raising the legal age for buying an assault weapon from 18 to 21 years.

There's no way, especially in this election year, that Republicans will let anything out of the Senate that would ruffle the feathers of the National Rifle Association.

President Joe Biden's proposals come close to what's really needed, with his bold call for universal background checks, eliminating ghost guns and renewing the ban on assault weapons. But even that's not enough to convince some conservative Americansthat the Second Amendment is an open license arm themselves, even with weapons that belong on the battlefield.

Let's face it. The way many judges and conservatives interpret the Second Amendment is a total con job. And, as wildly misinterpreted today, it is, for all intents and purposes, a license to kill as many people as you want with as many guns as you want.

The only effective way to deal with the Second Amendment is to repeal it — and then replace it with something that makes sense in a civilized society.

I'm hardly the first person to say that the Second Amendment has been a disaster for this country. In fact, two Supreme Court justices — justices appointed by Republican presidents — have said as much.

In a March 2018 opinion piece for the New York Times, former Justice John Paul Stevens, who was appointed by then-President Gerald Ford, wrote that Americans protesting the massacre of 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School "should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment."

He explained: "A constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the NRA's ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option."

And decades earlier, in 1991, former Chief Justice Warren Burger, appointed by President Richard Nixon, told the PBS Newshour: "If I were writing the Bill of Rights now, there wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment.

Burger called the Second Amendment "one of the greatest pieces of fraud — I repeat the word 'fraud' — on the American people by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

The words: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Read it again. There's no way you can logically leap from those 27 words about the existence of a state militia to the unfettered right of any citizen to buy as many guns — and any kind of gun — that they want, without the government being able to do anything about it.

It's clear from the wording of the Second Amendment itself that it has nothing to do with individual gun ownership; nothing to do with self-defense; and nothing to do with assault weapons. The amendment speaks, not to the rights of well-armed individual citizens, but only to citizens as members of a group, a "well regulated militia."

And its history is well-known. The founders saw no need to mention guns in the original Constitution. As many constitutional scholars and American historians have shown, the Second Amendment was added later by James Madison as part of a deal to secure the support of Patrick Henry and other White racist Virginians for confirmation of the Constitution. Noted academic Carol Anderson, for one, describes the "anti-Blackness" that lies at the heart of the Second Amendment in her book "The Second," as well as its "architecture of repression."

As such, it was not about self-defense. It was, in the opinion of these historians, about reassuring Whiteplantation owners that the new federal government would not interfere with their practice of forming White militias to patrol the South, ready to put down rebellionby disgruntled Black slaves or chase down slaves who tried to flee.

And again, the amendment has nothing to do with self-defense or allowing ownership of any kind of gun. As Stevens noted in his New York Times op-ed: "For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation."

Two things changed that. First, a band of gun extremists took over the NRA at its 1977 annual convention in Cincinnati and changed its mission from championing the Second Amendment as the right of hunters to giving every American the right to own a gun for self-defense. The NRA proceeded, successfully, to sell that unfounded idea of self-defense to politicians and the general public.

Second, in 2008, former Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller,which — again for the first time in over 200 years — established the right of every American under the Second Amendment to own a gun for self-defense. And he rounded up four other votes.

However, it's important to note that even in Heller, Scalia took pains to argue that as with other rights, those granted under the Second Amendment are not unlimited — and that governments retain the power to regulate what kind of guns, or how many, people may own.

Of course, those provisions of Heller are conveniently ignored by gun worshippers like Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who uphold the Second Amendment as reinterpreted by Scalia. That flawed reasoning allowed a Texas teenager to buy two AR-15's on his 18th birthday, walk into an elementary school and mow down 19 students and two teachers.

We are a sick nation indeed, if we allow that idiocy to stand.

Of course, it won't be easy to repeal the Second Amendment. It would require a constitutional amendment, passed by two-thirds of the House and Senate and three-quarter of the states. Or a constitutional convention, called by two-thirds of the states, with any proposed changes approved by three-quarters of the states. But, difficult or not, it's still the right thing to do.

We are condemned to more and more mass killings until we do the right thing: Stop arguing about the Second Amendment — and just get rid of it.
 
The 2A is really about whatever is evil this week so they can justify removing it.
Next Week: Did you know that the 2A didn't even change it's ink color to the tranny flag for gay month? Despicable.
"Raytheon changed its logo colors for Pride Month. Why won't Smith and Wesson?"
 
I live in a country with the strictest gun laws around and we keep having mass shootings and violent crimes. The reason you don't hear about it is because 99,9 percent of the shooters are immigrants and nothing bad can be said about them, and second those who carry the guns here don't care about keeping the law, they have ak-47's and grenade launchers and our law enforment keep out of certain no go zones because if they go there its practically a death sentence.
Instead of scrapping the second amendment, scream for improving mental healthcare and insane asylums to keep idiots of the streets.

I envy your gun laws, i feel rather unsafe here in the city and the government rape us without any care in the world.
Let me guess you live in Brazil or something? I'll be honest there's no way repealing 2A does not increase the power of the gangs here.

Even if everything magically disappeared today, the gangs would obtain new firepower tomorrow. Mark my words.
 
How about you focus on the real problem, which is mental illness?
The thing I don't like about the mental illness talking point is that it's not talking about the root problems for the mental illness. I think the root cause of the mental illness is that the american people aren't getting pussy.

Consider the following - most of these mass shooters are incels. Hell even if you go back to 9/11, the hijackers wanted their 72 virgins. Incel + guns = tragedy.

Yemen has more mass shootings per capita than the US. Yemen is a backwards islamic country with illegal prostitution and draconian rules.
Switzerland has an incredibly high rate of gun ownership, but not a lot of mass shootings.... but legal prostitution.
You don't need a license to buy a shotgun in austria, incredibly low mass shooting rate.... legal prostitutions.

Lots of guns + no pussy = tragedy.
 
Read it again. There's no way you can logically leap from those 27 words about the existence of a state militia to the unfettered right of any citizen to buy as many guns — and any kind of gun — that they want, without the government being able to do anything about it.
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By the way, it seems pretty unusual that between the of speech not regulated by the government and the right not to house government troops we have a right to give government more power.

Founding Fathers: I've got it! After fighting central government power, we must in a document limiting the power of a central government give the state government power to form militias that can be brought under control of the central power.
 
Fuck the right to bear arms, what about the right to arm bears?

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Even if anyone had the political clout to get rid of the 2nd amendment, which no one does or likely ever will, the universal response would be "come get em glowie" from everyone with a gun.

The US was founded on the principle that its citizens have the right to carry arms to protect themselves from others and, if need be, the government itself. That is not going to change anytime soon, especially with all the bullshit going down in the world right now.
 
All right, time for a little lesson.

You will note, if you take a look at it, that the actual wording of the 2nd Amendment does not, in fact, specify firearms at all. It specifies weapons. This is important because the 2nd Amendment is not about guns at all - it is about the fundamental human right of self-defense. It is an inalienable human right because the ability to protect yourself, your family, and your property is fundamentally central to your own ability to self-determinate.

If you do not have the ability to defend yourself, you essentially do not have any other meaningful right, because those rights can be taken from you by fiat of the government or an angry mob.

That is the reason this journoswine hack wants you disarmed - not just guns, but any meaningful ability to defend yourself - so that when his fucking buddies who get blatantly preferential treatment from nakedly corrupt law enforcement decide to fuck up your city, your home, your family, when the cops decide to pull a Chris and shit their pants and do nothing, you can't do shit other than submit. Blatantly unconstitutional horse-shit like Duty to Retreat laws are another part of this ongoing campaign.

If there is anything I am thankful for the Summer of Love for, it's showing how important weapon ownership is for the average citizen, because this issue is dead as shit at the state level.
 
The words: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Read it again. There's no way you can logically leap from those 27 words about the existence of a state militia to the unfettered right of any citizen to buy as many guns — and any kind of gun — that they want, without the government being able to do anything about it.
Bill Press continues his pathetic existence as a retarded commiefornian papist shitlib.

D.C. v. Heller said:
Three provisions of the Constitution refer to “the people” in a context other than “rights”—the famous preamble (“We the people”), §2 of Article I (providing that “the people” will choose members of the House), and the Tenth Amendment (providing that those powers not given the Federal Government remain with “the States” or “the people”). Those provisions arguably refer to “the people” acting collectively—but they deal with the exercise or reservation of powers, not rights. Nowhere else in the Constitution does a “right” attributed to “the people” refer to anything other than an individual right.6

What is more, in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention “the people,” the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset. As we said in United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U. S. 259, 265 (1990) :

“ ‘[T]he people’ seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution… . [Its uses] sugges[t] that ‘the people’ protected by the Fourth Amendment , and by the First and Second Amendment s, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendment s, refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.”

This contrasts markedly with the phrase “the militia” in the prefatory clause. As we will describe below, the “militia” in colonial America consisted of a subset of “the people”—those who were male, able bodied, and within a certain age range. Reading the Second Amendment as protecting only the right to “keep and bear Arms” in an organized militia therefore fits poorly with the operative clause’s description of the holder of that right as “the people.”

We start therefore with a strong presumption that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans.

And decades earlier, in 1991, former Chief Justice Warren Burger, appointed by President Richard Nixon, told the PBS Newshour: "If I were writing the Bill of Rights now, there wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment.

Burger called the Second Amendment "one of the greatest pieces of fraud — I repeat the word 'fraud' — on the American people by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."
Burger was one of the most incompetent chief justices in the history of the court, though John Roberts is doing his absolute best to catch up.

And its history is well-known. The founders saw no need to mention guns in the original Constitution.
Because most of them were from states that included protection of the right to bear arms in their state constitutions.
As many constitutional scholars and American historians have shown, the Second Amendment was added later by James Madison as part of a deal to secure the support of Patrick Henry and other White racist Virginians for confirmation of the Constitution.
Massachusetts' constitution recognized the right in 1780, before the US Constitution existed. Pennsylvania's recognition dates back to 1776. Vermont, 1777. New Hampshire, 1783.

Racist white southerners indeed.
 
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“Fuck it, let’s just get rid of it! Who needs individual rights, amirite guys?”
Unfortunately this is exactly what they believe.
Another example of how impotent and big mad about it these wannabe tyrants are
The scariest thing in the world is an impotent man suddenly given *any* amount of power over others.
 
Anything we can’t fix we get rid of? That’s going to lead to some interesting conversations about lifestyle choices
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