TheyCallMeTevin is a garbage troll

[TheyCallMeTevin]

Hi Phil. Some questions:

• I know one of your fans said this but what exactly disproves that is your WWE Champions mobile account?
• When you were on that bankruptcy call and you mentioned microtransactions being part of your business expenses, what game's microtransactions did you mean? I don't think I've seen you spending a lot on microtransactions on stream. Kind of sounds like that's how you hid 40k in mobile charges, or should I say you didn't hide them you just falsely reported them.
• If it's not on microtransactions what exactly are your 5k in monthly business expenses? I don't see you upgrading your equipment and games don't cost that much...
• Do you think it's a good idea calling people mentally ill when most of your paypigs are literally retarded?

So, I have been lurking this thread for a while and have been curious about a few things. I am not really for/against DSP. I am just genuinely curious about the hatred/lore surrounding dsp. I try to keep an open mind about things and I tend to try to always come up with and understand the opposing arguments to my beliefs and try to understand both sides.

1) What exactly proves that that account WAS his account? that "statistical linguistic analysis" software doesn't exist. Can someone link me to it? I cannot find a single line of code on Github that shows this software or the output of this software. I have also never seen any text comparison tool apparently built on machine learning saying "are you sure you didn't accidentally use the training input as your test input"? Would be good to see some proof of this tool and its apparent correctness. Beyond that, I have heard of some discord leaks, but have never seen any pictures of these leaks.

2) I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this? That would help illuminate what microtransactions meant.

3) I do remember this part. The arbitrator clearly stated that the form DSP filled out was not 5000 business expense, but rather ANY expense. This is exactly what was said to the fake Citibank guy. Feel free to prove me wrong here though.

4) Do you think it is a good idea to call people literally retarded? To quote the forum guidelines "
Forum guidelines

• Be civil. Don't get angry over DSP. If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.

" Thus, is it not hypocritical to call soemone legitimately mentally deficient while claimng they are insulting others?

 

[ReentryPhantom]

So, I have been lurking this thread for a while and have been curious about a few things. I am not really for/against DSP. I am just genuinely curious about the hatred/lore surrounding dsp. I try to keep an open mind about things and I tend to try to always come up with and understand the opposing arguments to my beliefs and try to understand both sides.

1) What exactly proves that that account WAS his account? that "statistical linguistic analysis" software doesn't exist. Can someone link me to it? I cannot find a single line of code on Github that shows this software or the output of this software. I have also never seen any text comparison tool apparently built on machine learning saying "are you sure you didn't accidentally use the training input as your test input"? Would be good to see some proof of this tool and its apparent correctness. Beyond that, I have heard of some discord leaks, but have never seen any pictures of these leaks.

2) I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this? That would help illuminate what microtransactions meant.

3) I do remember this part. The arbitrator clearly stated that the form DSP filled out was not 5000 business expense, but rather ANY expense. This is exactly what was said to the fake Citibank guy. Feel free to prove me wrong here though.

4) Do you think it is a good idea to call people literally retarded? To quote the forum guidelines "
Forum guidelines

• Be civil. Don't get angry over DSP. If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.

" Thus, is it not hypocritical to call soemone legitimately mentally deficient while claimng they are insulting others?

Think about how easy it would have been for theycallmedsp/TheGunShow84/DownFromTheRafters to prove that they were anyone else in the world other than Phil. You would think that if you spent THAT MUCH money on a game and it's absolutely necessary for you to be in a good faction for you to advance, you'd do whatever you could to stay in a faction . He was asked by 2 factions to prove who he was, and wouldn't do it. Why not? All it would have taken was a 5 minute conversation in a discord VC or a picture or ANYTHING. But this person refused to provide any evidence that they weren't Phil. Why?

Furthermore, there has never been a time where the WWE guys was active and Phil was streaming at the same time.

 

[PieceofShet]

NO! DSP! NOO! WHAT ARE YOU DOING???

 

[Zappin’ And Spazzin’]

4) Do you think it is a good idea to call people literally retarded? To quote the forum guidelines "
Forum guidelines

• Be civil. Don't get angry over DSP. If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.

" Thus, is it not hypocritical to call soemone legitimately mentally deficient while claimng they are insulting others?

Just want to pipe in and say that he didn’t mean it as an insult, Some of Phil’s fans are, by the most literal definition of the term, verifiably, mentally unwell.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGuFlljXEDY

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdxnTejwi5IxGzb_feNKUSg/videos

Also for more information regarding WWE Champions, see

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/despit...llars-on-the-wwe-champions-mobile-game.65126/

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

Think about how easy it would have been for theycallmedsp/TheGunShow84/DownFromTheRafters to prove that they were anyone else in the world other than Phil. You would think that if you spent THAT MUCH money on a game and it's absolutely necessary for you to be in a good faction for you to advance, you'd do whatever you could to stay in a faction . He was asked by 2 factions to prove who he was, and wouldn't do it. Why not? All it would have taken was a 5 minute conversation in a discord VC or a picture or ANYTHING. But this person refused to provide any evidence that they weren't Phil. Why?

Furthermore, there has never been a time where the WWE guys was active and Phil was streaming at the same time.

Well, think about it like a court case. You all are the plaintiff's, and DSP is the defendant. You are putting the burden of proof on DSP to prove he is not the same person. But that is not a good argument as to why he IS that person. It would be like saying "This person committed a crime! How do I know? Well, do you have proof he DID NOT do it?" Also, the second argument you brought up frankly does not support anything. I have never been in the same room as Obama at the same time, thus am I Obama? DSP streams a lot, is the claim really that he streams all day then spends all night on a mobile game? When does he sleep?

As to why the WWE guy did not disprove it, again why is the burden of proof on him? If anything, he probably wants to be kept anonymous. I would not want to show my picture online in a mobile game. But I do agree that a discord conversation with voice would be easy to do should the WWE guy choose to do it.

 

[Forbidden Math]

So, I have been lurking this thread for a while and have been curious about a few things. I am not really for/against DSP. I am just genuinely curious about the hatred/lore surrounding dsp. I try to keep an open mind about things and I tend to try to always come up with and understand the opposing arguments to my beliefs and try to understand both sides.

1) What exactly proves that that account WAS his account? that "statistical linguistic analysis" software doesn't exist. Can someone link me to it? I cannot find a single line of code on Github that shows this software or the output of this software. I have also never seen any text comparison tool apparently built on machine learning saying "are you sure you didn't accidentally use the training input as your test input"? Would be good to see some proof of this tool and its apparent correctness. Beyond that, I have heard of some discord leaks, but have never seen any pictures of these leaks.

2) I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this? That would help illuminate what microtransactions meant.

3) I do remember this part. The arbitrator clearly stated that the form DSP filled out was not 5000 business expense, but rather ANY expense. This is exactly what was said to the fake Citibank guy. Feel free to prove me wrong here though.

4) Do you think it is a good idea to call people literally retarded? To quote the forum guidelines "
Forum guidelines

• Be civil. Don't get angry over DSP. If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.

" Thus, is it not hypocritical to call soemone legitimately mentally deficient while claimng they are insulting others?

1) Go check the thread for the discord leaks, pictures are posted there, not sure how you've never seen any but you not seeing them doesn't mean they don't exist, same with the software.

2) Well maybe listen to the whole call, I'm not going to listen through the whole thing again to spoon feed you. What I remember is he was is asked by the arbitrator to clarify his spending and either he or she mentioned microtransactions which he said were business related.

3) I recall the number on his initial filing being $5000 but I may be misremembering that one. In that case insert whatever absurd thousands of dollars he put in his expenses and replace the question with that because it's still just as relevant.

4) His top whales have been doxed and almost all of them are literally retarded. When I say literally retarded I mean just that, not figuratively retarded, I'm not even using it as an insult. Also pretty sure that rule doesn't work the way you think it does. I'm allowed to call Phil and his fans whatever I want, it's just bickering between posters that they want to avoid.

Edit: I hope others can flesh out the answers to your questions more, I know a lot but my knowledge of the pigroach isn't even close to as comprehensive as some of the other posters.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

Well, think about it like a court case. You all are the plaintiff's, and DSP is the defendant. You are putting the burden of proof on DSP to prove he is not the same person. But that is not a good argument as to why he IS that person. Also, the second argument you brought up frankly does not support anything. I have never been in the same room as Obama at the same time, thus am I Obama? DSP streams a lot, is the claim really that he streams all day then spends all night on a mobile game? When does he sleep?

As to why the WWE guy did not disprove it, again why is the burden of proof on him? If anything, he probably wants to be kept anonymous. I would not want to show my picture online in a mobile game. But I do agree that a discord conversation with voice would be easy to do should the WWE guy choose to do it.

These are all fair points. But there is also the thing where DSP has said he can debunk this all by showing us his phone, but he can't do it because detractors might see something on the screen and that would cause more issues. But for whatever reason he can show us pictures of pizza and other things on his phone with no problem.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

So, I have been lurking this thread for a while and have been curious about a few things. I am not really for/against DSP. I am just genuinely curious about the hatred/lore surrounding dsp. I try to keep an open mind about things and I tend to try to always come up with and understand the opposing arguments to my beliefs and try to understand both sides.

1) What exactly proves that that account WAS his account? that "statistical linguistic analysis" software doesn't exist. Can someone link me to it? I cannot find a single line of code on Github that shows this software or the output of this software. I have also never seen any text comparison tool apparently built on machine learning saying "are you sure you didn't accidentally use the training input as your test input"? Would be good to see some proof of this tool and its apparent correctness. Beyond that, I have heard of some discord leaks, but have never seen any pictures of these leaks.

2) I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this? That would help illuminate what microtransactions meant.

3) I do remember this part. The arbitrator clearly stated that the form DSP filled out was not 5000 business expense, but rather ANY expense. This is exactly what was said to the fake Citibank guy. Feel free to prove me wrong here though.

4) Do you think it is a good idea to call people literally retarded? To quote the forum guidelines "
Forum guidelines

• Be civil. Don't get angry over DSP. If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.

" Thus, is it not hypocritical to call soemone legitimately mentally deficient while claimng they are insulting others?

If you are neither pro or anti DSP, why register a username that is one of DSP's biggest detractors?

1. If you don't trust the computer text analysis, do one of your own. Look at the way TheyCallMeDSP types, the abbreviations he uses, the random caps, the slang, the typos, etc. Compare those to things Phil Burnell has written. Phil has a vast internet footprint, not just YouTube videos. He has many written posts on various forums and websites going back 20 years.

Phil refuses to do anything to prove he is not TheyCallMeDSP and vice versa. Phil can't show his screen name on a mobile game that he no longer plays because it has sensitive information, yet he can show his DMCA stuff and show us a pizza on his phone.

Phil is a liar. Just like he said he no longer watches or cares about wrestling, yet will ban anyone posting wrestling spoilers because he hasn't watched it yet. Either you don't watch wrestling and don't care or you do watch wrestling and you do care. He doesn't play WWE Champions, but he also prayed that people would forget all about it after his bankruptcy? Sounds like he does care. Why would someone care about a game they don't play?

2. Phil said the $5000 a month listed as business expenses went to maintenance, buying games and consoles, and microtransactions. First, Phil does no maintenance on his equipment. He hasn't bought a new console in years. If he gets four $60 games a month that would be $240. Phil hasn't purchased any microtransactions such as cosmetic skins or season passes or anything like that in a long time. It just doesn't add up unless he is spending money on a video game "behind the scenes" such as WWE Champions.

3. Phil makes $10,000 a month. $5,000 is household expenses. $5,000 was business expenses. His paperwork showed he had a net monthly loss of $30

4. Fine. We shall all refer to you as an "exceptional individual" since the word filter for retarded was removed.

This isn't a court of law. There is plenty of evidence that Phil is TheyCallMeDSP. There is no burden of proof. If Phil isn't TheyCallMeDSP or if TheyCallMeDSP isn't Phil, one of them could have debunked the myth.

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

1) Go check the thread for the discord leaks, pictures are posted there, not sure how you've never seen any but you not seeing them doesn't mean they don't exist, same with the software.

2) Well maybe listen to the whole call, I'm not going to listen through the whole thing again to spoon feed you. What I remember is he was is asked by the arbitrator to clarify his spending and either he or she mentioned microtransactions which he said were business related.

3) I recall the number on his initial filing being $5000 but I may be misremembering that one. In that case insert whatever absurd thousands of dollars he put in his expenses and replace the question with that because it's still just as relevant.

4) His top whales have been doxed and almost all of them are literally retarded. When I say literally retarded I mean just that, not figuratively retarded. Also pretty sure that rule doesn't work the way you think it does. I'm allowed to call Phil and his fans whatever I want, it's just bickering between posters that they want to avoid.

Edit: I hope others can flesh out the answers to your questions more, I know a lot but my knowledge of the pigroach isn't even close to as comprehensive as some of the other posters.

Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Who asked you to spoonfeed me? That is a rude thing to say to someone. You used a quote from this call as evidence against DSP. You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Again, since you said I asked you to spoonfeed me, let me spoonfeed this to you: the arbitrator clearly stated those are not just business expenses but all expenses including expenses we would normally consider as not business related. When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?

 

[Scotsman]

I try to keep an open mind about things

You're so open minded that your fucking brain has fallen out.

 

[Third_World_Detractor]

Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Who asked you to spoonfeed me? That is a rude thing to say to someone. You used a quote from this call as evidence against DSP. You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Again, since you said I asked you to spoonfeed me, let me spoonfeed this to you: the arbitrator clearly stated those are not just business expenses but all expenses including expenses we would normally consider as not business related. When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?

Hi MoraMoria

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?

Look at it another way, Phil could easily disprove these claims in seconds. The guy who definitely is not Phil could prove in seconds that he isn't Phil. If you'd spent $40,000+ on a game and were now being run out of every guild you join, would you not be desperate to prove you're a different person?

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

Retarded Shit

How have you never listened to the 341 call, yet you know exactly what the arbitrator said?

Seems a little off.

 

[Vivica A. Fox]

Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Who asked you to spoonfeed me? That is a rude thing to say to someone. You used a quote from this call as evidence against DSP. You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Again, since you said I asked you to spoonfeed me, let me spoonfeed this to you: the arbitrator clearly stated those are not just business expenses but all expenses including expenses we would normally consider as not business related. When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?

Hi Phil

 

[Forbidden Math]

Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

I think you're on the wrong site if you're going to cry about someone being called mentally retarded, more so when the person you're defending was shown calling people "mentally ill" on the previous page. Just because you haven't lurked long enough to see the multiple doxes doesn't mean they aren't a thing, maybe you should take some of our arguments in good faith instead of just assuming we don't know what we're talking about.

Who asked you to spoonfeed me?

You did. You said: "I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this?" This is asking for spoonfeeding. Also if you think that's rude you are in the wrong place.

You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Sorry, I'm not a computer, nor am I your personal DSP reference desk. If me and other posters on this site remembering something isn't enough evidence and you can't be bothered to find it yourself then go ahead and believe a pathological liar. Maybe you should start donating money to him.

When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

5k in monthly expenses is understandable? What for the Kardasians? Edit: Though I will say maybe living in Seattle is that expensive, but still, that number seems high for just two people and a cat.

But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?

So we need absolute proof on the software but DSP doesn't need absolute proof (which he can provide in the form of showing his WWE Champions account, or that DownFromTheRafters could have proved any number of ways through discord) that it's not his WWE Champions account?

I have a question for you now: Do you seriously think a troll spent 40k to make a WWE Champions account with DSP's main screen name? Why is that more believable than someone who's stated himself that he enjoys mobile games spent that much on one account over years?

 

[PieceofShet]

Not sure if a troll, or phil himself. Isnt this the time when he usually wakes up?

 

[FamicomGorby]

Not sure if a troll, or phil himself. Isnt this the time when he usually wakes up?

Probably a troll though, I don't see why Dave would post here when his wheelchairs have shown that they don't give a shit about anything that comes about him.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Listen Masterxeon2002/Trayupperdeck/obvious paypig, people who have literal autism get government checks every so often to help them and a lot of these people have literal handlers (people who take care of them like a parent or guardian) so they're not paying for food or bills with most of their government checks. Other people who are autistic have the great skill of being born into a rich family who gives them an exhorbitant allowance each month to spend on whatever they want (I know that at least Phil had 2 of these people giving him shekels)

 

[FamicomGorby]

Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

They get that sweet sweet govmint tugboat, same way Chris Chan still has money to waste on Legos and toys.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Ay don't forget the Eurocucks who get the neetbucks from their cucked Scandanavian governments in the hope they'll not spend it on body pillows of half naked animu girls but real girls that you're supposed to fuck and have kids with to stave off the Muzzie hordes for at least one more generation.