UN Third Democratic Debates


There are now less than five months to go before the first votes are cast in the Democratic presidential nominating contest. So the spotlight is going to be even hotter on the 10 candidates who made the cut for Thursday's debate in Houston.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is ascendant with more Democrats saying they like her than any other candidate, but former Vice President Joe Biden continues to lead in the polls. So what might set them apart, what could be the flashpoints Thursday night, and can any of the other candidates break through?

Here are some key logistical questions, followed by political ones:

When is the debate? Thursday from 8-11 p.m. ET

What channel is it on? ABC and Univision (with Spanish translation)

Who are the moderators? ABC's George Stephanopoulos, David Muir, Linsey Davis and Univision's Jorge Ramos

Who's on the stage? Biden, Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kamala Harris of California, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Warren, as well as South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Obama Housing Secretary Julián Castro, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas and tech investor Andrew Yang.

What were the qualifications to get into this debate? 2% in at least four Democratic polls, either nationally or in early states, as well as 130,000 donors from at least 20 states and at least 400 in each state.

Here are five political questions:
1. What will the Biden-Warren dynamic be like?
There's lots being made of the fact that this is the first time during this presidential campaign that Biden and Warren will share the debate stage. The question is whether they engage — and on what?

They signaled that they might mix it up. Warren has gotten attention for her myriad plans, but a Biden adviser told CNN that the former vice president will likely argue in the debate that "we need more than plans." One area ripe for debate is on bankruptcy law, an issue where they have a history.

2. Can Biden take the heat — again?
In the first two debates, varying candidates have picked fights with Biden — Harris on busing, Booker on criminal justice, and so on. And he'll likely be the focus of criticism from other candidates because of his continued lead in the polls.

But despite some missteps on the campaign trail and a lackluster first debate, his brand has shown resiliency. He not only leads the race nationally and in many state polls, but he's also extremely well liked among the Democratic base, something you'd likely never know if you only read Twitter, a point his campaign makes repeatedly.

That makes him a target for the other candidates, who have to be wondering what it will take to dislodge him. Still, Democratic strategists see Biden as a fragile front-runner, and he has to have solid outings in these coming debates that will likely get more attention than the first couple of rounds.

3. Will the candidates double down on positions unpopular with general-election voters?
A lot of the moderate Democratic candidates are not on the stage for this debate— Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet and former Maryland Rep. John Delaney did not qualify, and former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper dropped out to run for the Senate.

That means the progressives are likely to again target Biden and focus on issues unpopular outside of Democrats, like "Medicare for All" as a replacement to private insurance, health care for immigrants in the country illegally and decriminalizing border crossings.

4. Do Sanders and Warren maintain their nonaggression pact?
Warren is getting lots of attention and was not only the most popular candidate among Democrats in the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, she's now caught up with — and even passed in some instances — fellow progressive Sanders in an average of the polls.

That has to grate on Sanders, even if people close to him continue to say that he sees Warren as an ally for the kind of change he wants to see in the country. They have maintained that Sanders will not go after Warren unless they are the last two standing, but they also privately point out differences, such as on foreign policy and party politics. It's probably not the time yet for Sanders to need to go after Warren, but could some prickliness begin to emerge?

5. What kind of chances do candidates needing a breakout take?
If a candidate hasn't had a moment yet, they now have a chance to do something to gain attention and create a spark for their campaign before a large audience.

Yang, for one, is promising to do something no one's done. What exactly? No one knows, but Yang is hoping you tune in.

At the same time, it's not clear how many people will tune in. The latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found that more people said they weren't going to watch (42%) than said they would (38%).

Tulsi, one of the few sane-ish candidates in the Democratic race, isn't going to be in this debate, so I'm not sure if I'm interested in watching this tonight
 
How the hell did Robert Francis O'Rourke and Castro make the cut? I'm probably not going to watch this one and it seems many people agree. No one cares about these people outside of the spectacle and they've nixed all the people that make a good spectacle.

The only reason why Beto, Castro, and Yang are even present at the debate is to act as jobbers to help prop up the DNC's real pick, which will most likely be Kamala, Warren, or Biden.

Booker, Bernie, and Buttigieg are your mid-tier guys who might make it to the beginning of the actual primary voting but will fall by the wayside inevitably.

So, will they give Elizabeth Warren the crown tonight? She's the closest thing that they have to Hillary Clinton at this point, complete with the closeted neoliberalism and the awful scandals centered around blatant fibs that everybody knows about. There's also no way in Hell that they'll do Weekend at Biden's after 2016.

And if she does become the nomination, will trans-racialism finally get the legitimacy that the leaders of BLM & the NAACP have been craving for so long?

I'd say Kamala is even closer to Hillary Clinton in that she is every bit as unlikable, brazenly vindictive, and very corrupt with a mean authoritarian streak (There's a reason why she's nicknamed "Copmala") but my best guess is that they will try to field Warren or Kamala with Bernie and Biden as the "final boss" figures of the primaries to give them some sense of legitimacy (or the illusion thereof) although they might let Biden run because they know they're probably gonna lose 2020 and this will likely be Biden's last shot at running.
 
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I want either Castro or whatever moderate is left to become the nominee. It won't be good for Trump if Biden drops dead on live television during the presidential debates, so hopefully Biden ends his campaign by then. With Castro, at least there's the small bit of hope that he'd bring up trannies again and I can get a good laugh. It'd be even better if he does it in Spanish while Trump looks at him blankly.

On the other hand, a moderate democrat would be fun for what his/her lost would bring. If a moderate dem were to run against Trump and lose, it would cement in the left's mind that they need to be MORE extreme. The next 4 years would be full of CNN shoving the next big progressive frontier down everyone's throats, and I have a feeling that frontier would involve furries and the virtue of cricket-eating.

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Plus, not sure how Tramp would've pulled insults at Tulsi. What could he possibly attack her for? She's nearly perfect. Tramp would have to run through hours of research (that he won't do) before he could find something to really stick her in the mud with.
She's in that wacky Hare Krishna-type cult. It's not as toxic as Scientology, but it might turn off some of the religious nutjobs.
 
ABC's stream of the debate starting at 5pm PST:

I hope Yang really knocks it out of the park because no other candidate is remotely interesting. Biden is my choice because he'll mess up a bunch and that could be funny.
 
ABC's stream of the debate starting at 5pm PST:

I hope Yang really knocks it out of the park because no other candidate is remotely interesting. Biden is my choice because he'll mess up a bunch and that could be funny.
The stream is already going, and Tom Perez is shouting his heart out. He said Trump has every -ISM in the book. :story:

I don't remember the other debates having a warm up act.
 
I like how I tune in and the first thing I hear is a guy blaming Pulse on gun laws and not Islamic terrorism.

EDIT: We get it dude, you got a thing for Mexicans. Calm down. Why are you on the stage?
 
The stream is already going, and Tom Perez is shouting his heart out.

I don't remember the other debates having a warm up act.
I meant the debates start then lel, theres always an awful preshow. There was ones last time, but they we smaller from what I remember.

I really don't know why Tom is so loudly yelling about Congress people.
 
And here begins the Spanish
 
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