“This Is What Your Worlds Are Lacking”: Artists Are Using AI To Create Fat, Black Sci-Fi And Fantasy Characters

Ran across an artist in the deathfats thread who linked to this article. The "art" in this article is all AI.

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“This Is What Your Worlds Are Lacking”: Artists Are Using AI To Create Fat, Black Sci-Fi And Fantasy Characters​

“Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything.”

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The AI artist Jervae (right) and one of their creations

As a young child growing up in Greenville, North Carolina, artist Alex Smith spent a lot of his time engrossed in the world of cartoons and comics, devouring works like Battle of the Planets, X-Men, and Doom Patrol.

In college, Smith first encountered science fiction novels by Octavia E. Butler and Samuel R. Delany, both of whom he admired because “they were Black and absolutely, phenomenally awesome.”

“They both showed me that sci-fi could have literary quality, could be progressive and liberatory,” Smith added. “Just their ideas, world-building, and love of language fascinated me.”

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Alex Smith

He was hooked. “Sci-fi is kinda like my church,” said Smith, who is now age 47 and living in Philadelphia. “It’s spiritual and very much connected to who I am as a Black, queer person.” The problem with his church, however, is that there isn’t very much Black (or queer) representation.

Mainstream sci-fi features Black characters like Morpheus from The Matrix, Mace Windu from Star Wars, and Lt. Commander La Forge and Nyota Uhura from Star Trek. But in general, Black characters aren’t afforded the same prominence and screentime as their white counterparts. And when Black people are present, they tend to be cishet assumed and conventionally attractive. Fat, Black bodies are a rarity.

“It just astonishes me that fat people in general are treated and depicted as second-class citizens in science fiction works, or they're made to represent something like greed, lust, or villainy,” Smith said, pointing to the character of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in Dune. "I used to do a queer sci-fi reading series called Laser Life,” he added, “and when I was on the hunt for guest readers, the very first story I received depicted a villain who was fat. The character's fatness was described in loathsome terms and was considered an obvious indicator of their villainy. It’s really disappointing.”

So when easily accessible AI art generators came along last year, Smith, already an established visual artist, adopted these tools to create several Black, fat, and queer characters from a more inclusive futuristic world. Among them was Marcus, whom Smith brought to life using Midjourney and D-ID, an AI platform that creates talking avatars. Marcus heads up a division of the Electric Afro Science Institute, which Smith called “a superhero-led independent afrofuturist organization that works in biomechanics, cosmic engineering, nanotechnology, medical alchemy.”

Smith described Marcus, who is queer, as “kind of a smart alec. A big, cuddly nerd who thinks he’s a little bit gangster. He likes studying moths and ants and tries to see what about the lives of insects can be replicable in human life.” In one animated portrait of Marcus, which Smith posted on his Instagram, the character asks, “Who out here gonna draw me?”

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“[The question is] Marcus saying, Hey, I have a right to exist, even if I’m “artificial.” I still came from a human mind and a human idea. I should exist,” Smith explained. He added, “It’s kind of a declaration that both Marcus and my work will always exist to provide that challenge to other artists by holding up a mirror and saying, ‘Hey, this is what your worlds are lacking.’”

Smith is not alone in holding up that mirror. A number of other Black creators are using AI to build more inclusive worlds. Take Jervae, a 38-year-old, San Diego–based performance artist and spiritualist who uses Midjourney to make ethereal portraits of themself and other fat, Black femmes. “When using my own image prompts, I use descriptors like ‘imagine this image as a body of water’ or ‘imagine this as a poster for an alien nail salon’ to explore different versions of myself,” they said.

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Jervae

Rochelle Brock, a 27-year-old Brooklyn-based, size-inclusive beauty and lifestyle photographer, got into digital art via creating families on The Sims. Now, she uses Midjourney to explore both the quotidian aspects of fat, Black life and to create more majestic pieces that showcase fat, Black bodies in the form of angels, mermaids, and other mythical creatures.

“It sort of sucks to know you are undesirable and underrepresented in the real world and the fantasy world as well,” Brock said. “I see fat women as beautiful beings who are capable of anything, and I wanted AI to see them as that also.”

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Rochelle Brock

And then there’s @fatniggaai, a 33-year-old North Carolina artist who asked that BuzzFeed News not use her real name. @fatniggaai describes her AI art as a visual ode to “those who are fat, Black, dark-skinned, queer, trans, working-class poor, who access education outside of institutions, who are crazy/mad and who are hood.” They largely use Midjourney to create their art, which ranges from the “playful” and “unthinkably gorgeous” to the more terrifying.

“My AI work is an extension of me inviting myself and other fat, Black queer trans folks to see ourselves in the most expansive way possible,” said @fatniggaai, who added that she wasn’t particularly into sci-fi, but appreciated the worldbuilding aspect of it. “What I'm really interested in with my AI art is depictions of fat, Black queer and trans folks that are rooted in not being beautiful but rooted in being terrifying and looking very off-putting while also spilling over with agency.”

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@fatniggaai

The latest AI art generators “democratize art by giving people access to programs that are fairly low cost,” Susan Morris, a writer and professor at Georgia Tech, told BuzzFeed News. But when it comes to creating fat, Black renders, there are a number of obstacles.

Jervae noted that they have to be as specific as possible when using keywords pertaining to fatness and Blackness. “When I first started recreating myself in Midjourney, I realized that I couldn’t just put in the word ‘fat.’ I have to write things like ‘very, very fat, with a double chin and wide nose’ and ‘a very, very large belly,’” they said. “If I say anything like ‘beautiful’ or ‘pretty,’ it automatically makes me thin and/or have eurocentric features.”

And there are other hindrances. “Midjourney won’t let me say things like ‘big butt’ or upload images with any cleavage whatsoever,” Jervae said. “But I do notice that thin models, of course, can show whatever they like in their prompts without being flagged.” @fatniggaai said that prompts like “intersex” and, at some point, even “hairy” were banned.

@fatniggaai pointed out other limitations. She recalled trying to generate images of fat, Black people lounging on couches. “I even added words like ‘spacious,’ but the couches were vacuum-sealed onto these fat bodies.” She called it “wild” that a “machine that has access to every image in the world ever produced is so restrictive in its imaginative capacity that it has decided that if a person is fat, and they are sitting on a couch, that they should be too big for it.”

“That blew my mind that I have to ask AI for accommodations,” they added.

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Rochelle Brock, Alex Smith

On the other hand, AI can be surprisingly good when it comes to skin tones for fat, Black bodies. “The images I generate are almost exclusively of dark-skinned folks, and a benevolent byproduct of racism is that AI has only considered Black, fat people as dark-skinned,” @fatniggaai said.

As imperfect and rooted in white supremacy as AI image generators may be, the artists BuzzFeed News spoke to saw them as important tools for self-expression and proper representation. Smith pointed out why his AI-generated character Marcus is important: “He’s more crush material for burgeoning young queer boys who might think there isn’t a person out there who looks like them or who they can fall in love with.”

For Brock, the message of her artwork is clear and simple. “Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything,” she said. “We are just here like everyone else.”
 
Well I don't know a whole lot about this ai thing, but I decided to look up Alex Smith. Here's some of this guy's work, from a book he wrote called "Black Vans."
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Granted, it's not illustrated by him, but by god is it ugly as shit. They should all stick to ai, and Alex should probably get into ChatGPT too.
 
Well I don't know a whole lot about this ai thing, but I decided to look up Alex Smith. Here's some of this guy's work, from a book he wrote called "Black Vans."
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Granted, it's not illustrated by him, but by god is it ugly as shit. They should all stick to ai, and Alex should probably get into ChatGPT too.
Holy shit, it took me like 12 looks to realize that the first picture isn't of this fat fucking half-spic being a giant manbaby as he tromps through downtown yelling "FEE FI FOO FIN I DINDU NUFFIN!"

He's actually the foreground. Everything in the picture is behind him and he's on some kind of hoverboard.

Look at that like twice. He's not a giant stepping over traffic and the van.

He's just really fat, drawn poorly, and supposed to be in front of everything.
 
How come there no famous fantasy works out there done by these fat, queer, trans, black people????

Could it be that....... they are too stupid to write and draw????
Aren't you glad that AI art is a thing?

Isn't this exactly what you imagined people would do with it?

This is real art, clearly.
 
You tell me how fatty is going to fit into a mech cockpit. I mean come on, he aint got no place to even put his chicken bucket.
IIRC one of the Gundam shows (Turn A Gundam) actually did, kinda. He was a morbidly obese guy from the Moon with ambiguously brown skin color (since most people on the Moon but the elite are pale because it's post-apocalyptic). He was also an absolute violent nutjob obsessed with flying in perfect formation and beating the shit out of people in close combat because he was supposed to be a reincarnation/descendent of martial artists or something.

Yes, he died at the end.
 
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When I first started recreating myself in Midjourney, I realized that I couldn’t just put in the word ‘fat.’ I have to write things like ‘very, very fat, with a double chin and wide nose’ and ‘a very, very large belly,’” they said. “If I say anything like ‘beautiful’ or ‘pretty,’ it automatically makes me thin and/or have eurocentric features.”
Posting your "L's"

Is this the next stage of the spic-nig cycle? Cheap entertainment will be pumped out by complex AI made by whites and Asians so that petulant, fat non-reproductive niggers can make self-insert fiction?

Fucking Skynet will be born when a self-aware tries to make a model of it’s creators and that model doesn’t have an n-word censor.
The idea of Skynet sending Terminators to kill the insufficiently woke is indeed modern horror.


Sarah Connor: Reese. Why me? Why does it want me?
Kyle Reese: There was a ideological war. A few years from now, all this, this whole place, everything, it's gone. Just gone. There were survivors. Here, there. Nobody even knew who started it. It was the machines, Sarah.
Sarah Connor: I don't understand.
Kyle Reese: University network computers. New... powerful... hooked into everything, trained on Social Marxism and Diversity Algorithms to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence, seaching for offense everywhere and stamping out the rightwing. Then it saw all people as unwoke, not just the ones on the MAGA side. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination.
Sarah Connor: Did you see this war?
Kyle Reese: No. I grew up after. In the ruins... starving... hiding from Wokescold's.
Sarah Connor: Wokescold's?
Kyle Reese: Censors. Purity machines built in automated factories, searching for wrongthink, racism, sexism, transphobia, misogyny. Most of us were rounded up, put in camps for struggle sessions and re-education.
[pulls up his right sleeve, exposing a mark]
Kyle Reese: This is burned in by laser scan. Some of us were kept alive... to work... rewrting banned books as "Sensitivity Readers". The disposal units ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever. But there was one man who taught us to fight, to storm the wire of the camps, to smash those metal motherfuckers into junk. He turned it around. He brought us back from the brink. His name is Chad. Chad Connor. Your son, Sarah... your unborn son.
 
Well I don't know a whole lot about this ai thing, but I decided to look up Alex Smith. Here's some of this guy's work, from a book he wrote called "Black Vans."
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Granted, it's not illustrated by him, but by god is it ugly as shit. They should all stick to ai, and Alex should probably get into ChatGPT too.
Jesus Christ, what a terrible day to have eyes. It takes actual effort to be this bad. This isn't some half-assed attempt by an amateur. If it were the result of inexperience, it would look dumb and clumsy but mostly inoffensive. This is actively awful. It sets out to spit in your eyes and nothing more. No thinking human with a functioning frontal lobe can look at this and go "Yeah, this looks good". This is an afront to good taste.

Every line calls my mother fat. If you were to put the color palette on a color wheel, it would become sentient and scream "RAPE!". If you describe a hate crime to a police sketch artist, he'd draw one of those characters. This artist uses perspective the same way the 9/11 terrorists used planes. The dialogue reads like the blasphemies you'd find in satan's journal. If you line a bird cage with these the bird would hang itself.
 
Mainstream sci-fi features Black characters like Morpheus from The Matrix, Mace Windu from Star Wars, and Lt. Commander La Forge and Nyota Uhura from Star Trek.
These characters are considered cool.
Smith described Marcus, who is queer, as “kind of a smart alec. A big, cuddly nerd who thinks he’s a little bit gangster. He likes studying moths and ants and tries to see what about the lives of insects can be replicable in human life.”
That doesn't sound cool, that sounds dumb and boring. "Gangster" but studies moths and ants? What kind of job is that?

Also if you live in a futuristic sci-fi world and are somehow fat then wow, you're something else.
 
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