Thoughts on Millenials being obsessed with the past

[God's drunkest driver]

I haven't had time to read through this entire thread, but in the 7ish long replies I read it's too much detail and not enough big picture. Millenials are not optimistic because they have little reason to be, I'll make it brief

• political instability

We've reached levels of tribalism and division not seen in our lifetimes. In the adulthood of millenials, we've had a slick half-black liar, an inept reality show star and now the doddering old head of a crime family as president, and not a single one has done anything they promised.

• inflation

The cost of the college education we were told we need has outpaced wages and inflation itself, and the degrees are worth less than ever. Our money is worth less than it ever was, we don't even have a dollar store anymore, and the homes the millenials are coming into the age to buy are now worth 2-3x what they would be in a sane world.

• social connection

The religion that built this western society is being supplanted by one of division, mutual hate and pure evil. The atheist progressive leftists worship at the altar of marx and mao. Making social connection outside of your small in-group is harder than ever despite the internet.

• future

Optimism is dead. Millenials have been assaulted by doomsayers since they entered the world as adults. Some is true and some propaganda of control; racism and division is back, the world will end because of climate change, another collapse always seems to be around the corner as nothing seems to have been learned from 2008, etc.

 

[Dysnomia]

Redditors love to be smug about teachers saying "You won't always have a calculator on you!" and then they smugly present their faggot telephones, but the expectation that you should be on-call and accessible 24/7 because smartphones are expected wasn't a thing way back when, either.

Asimov predicted this. People became mathematically stupid because of their "hand computers".

I was born in '79 and the world of my early days is definitely no more. It's changed radically even in the last 15 years. I'm not really a fan of it to be honest. I like some of the advancements. But I fear their applications more and more.

I was born in the late 80s too, and to be fair, the world has changed a whole lot in the last ten/fifteen years. There wasn't too much of a difference between the 1990s and the 2000s, but there is (to me) a definable "world that was" and "world we're in now", and the world we're in now feels alien to me. It's like a feeling of one day I must have woken up in a different reality or something. My parents never had that problem at my age, they just worked and got on with raising us kids - I don't think I ever heard them pining over the past.

I feel that the rapid advancement of technology has a lot to do with this. It's like we went from 0-60 in less than a second. One day we're playing Gameboy on a tiny green tinted screen and the next we're having church services given by AI. I feel like we're on the precipice of creating a very real dystopia. People like to say we're in one now. But we aren't. We're just way too close to the edge of the cliff. We can use these advances to help humanity. But in the long run greed will probably win out.

I think the real reason many are obsessed with the past isn't infantilism or anything silly like that. It's because they are very much genuinely disgusted with the present. Yeah we've got the CONSOOMers and their plastic garbage their children will just throw in the trash when they die. But most people just hate what the world has become and have no idea how to even begin to enact any sort of change. Because the powers that be have made that very difficult.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Ya wanna know why I opine for the older days? How many things in your life are turning into "services", or how many things we used to enjoy are now exclusively subscriptions or chopped up into pieces to pull more money out of you? Put on top of that the requirement to be political in EVERYTHING and it's a recipie for misery.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Because everything after the 00s is fucking garbage and on a declining trend that gets even worse each year.

 

[Alphasnail]

I catch myself more and more imagining the past. Some of it is natural nostalgia, but mostly i try to imagine the quiet. I was born in 94 and grew up in the sweet spot between having access to so much knowledge and media, but before everything turned into the communist gangster computer god. I miss being able to turn of the nintendo, or turn off the TV, and it was gone. You could be fully disconnected. The internet provided a collection of niche forums and places where you discussed things that were material to you, but shortly after MySpace and Facebook, the entire social world was grafted onto the virtual. It became harder to relate to people because, less and less, are you alone in the room with someone. Every interpersonal interaction has become tinged with this mutual baggage of memetics and shibboleths that we all picked up along the way. The entire social world turned into this disingenuous mode of profilicity in a matter of a few short years, and the spectacle driven hyperculture has accelerated year over year. Every current event and narrative and bit of foreign or domestic propaganda is charged through us in the blink of an eye. Seeing that university was a crock of shit, and all of the alienation of commodified social interaction, combined with the devastating devaluation of my wages, that I've watched in real time, has made me feel like I lost my damn mind. Like the late soviet Era, there's this demoralization and sense that I'm the only one seeing it this way, yet whenever I talk to people from my cohort and younger, I find out we all see it. Just nobody is doing anything. There's nothing to be done. I keep going back in my mind and hearing the cicadas in the summertime. No phenomenon or narrative to occupy me, but the day at hand. The news was just in the tv on mute in the back McDonald's.

Just quiet.

I'd give it all up to experience it again.

 

[TheRedChair]

Now in retrospect, the 1990s is when the seeds that Reaganomics planted really started to bear fruit, and millions of good paying manufacturing jobs were disappearing to China year after year, so it's not like the era didn't have its flaws, but still, all things considered, it was a great time to be alive.

1. FACT
CLINTON SIGNED IN NAFTA. There by destroying manufacturing jobs in the US

The high price of ‘free’ trade: NAFTA’s failure has cost the United States jobs across the nation

Since the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was signed in 1993, the rise in the U.S. trade deficit with Canada and Mexico through 2002 has caused the displacement of production that supported 879,280 U.S. jobs. Most of those lost jobs were high-wage positions in manufacturing...

www.epi.org

NOT China... That comes soon after as China was more or less an agriculture nation at the time.

2. FACT Clinton Got China into the World Trade organization. THIS CAUSED MASSIVE JOB LOSSES later down the road.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/09/china-wto-20-years-524050

3. FACT. The early part of the 90's we were hit with a NASTY recession and I fucking hate people trying to erase history because of presentism.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/12/13/two-recessions-two-recoveries/

It took to 1997 for unemployment levels to return to 1990 levels.

4. FACT Clinton Sign in the DMCA Act which has caused the erosion of FREE THOUGHT. Just look at Youtube on how the Copyright strikes go on there and get a fucking idea on how abusive the DMCA act really is. This is the fucking reason I have IP Attorneys handling my IP's because of FUCKING CLINTON.


You may have wonderful visions of good times, but from one of the wealthiest areas in the US, the "Way Out 90's" were a real Jekyll and Hyde economy and environment. For many of us it was do.. or die...

I had to bust my ass because of the massive loss of clients that nearly bankrupt me BECAUSE OF CLINTON during the 90's. I had to work 80+ hours a week and lay off people BECAUSE OF CLINTON.

This did indeed effected my bottom line when I started to making the investments in The DoT Com Era and that was part research and part luck there. And that was a wild ride, but that wild ride started in 1995 and ended in 1999. During that time well things were possible because there was money rolling on in.

Was there good times during the way out 90's? Yes, but not for those who survived the 87 crash, taking years to recover then having another recession that could have been avoided.

But fucking politics, just like what is happening now by the same Democratic Party who has ass raped the middle class with:

the LIES of the Coof,
the lock downs,
the printing of money,
the rise of inflation which is another form of taxation,
the rise of the deficit...

The politics of being broke,
they did that in the 90's too,

 

[ATI Escapee]

I think we are the last generation that will remember our childhood clearly and with strong associated emotions/ a sense of stability attached to those memories, because that was the last time screens, internet, attention hijacking advertisements, and expectations of recording everything with photos and videos, etc just didnt exist. We were able to have our full attention on whatever was around us, so it got solidly written into our brains' circuitry. Getting those deeply carved circuits tickled, REALLY tickles. The younger generation will have more distractions growing up and might not even experience strong nostalgia the way millenial and older do, I predict.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Being a sort of "buffer" generation probably has some kind of relation to this. Prior generations and zoomers grew up with a pretty static culture, but we were subject to a lot of change fast. Maybe there's a sense of loss with that, I don't know.

 

[Illumithotty]

The main part is that millenials are just getting old now. HA HA WELCOME TO HELL FUCKOS IT ONLY GETS WORSE FROM HERE

But also it'd be like being born right when electricity was coming into maturity. You're an infant when they're still figuring out lightbulbs, you're a kid when the rich people have wiring installed, and by the time you're an adult there's power lines and transformers as part of the landscape. Just one of those technological advances that changes everything, forever, with no way back anymore. And when you may've gotten to enjoy the no holds barred times when you could just electrocute elephants for fun, now everything is locked down and the useages are branching off into things that're ubiquitous, invasive, and obnoxious.

 

[Hepativore]

This might also explain a lot of Millennial nostalgia, as well...

 

[The Ugly One]

Millennials are the last generation that can remember a time before politics. It's really striking to read newspaper cartoons from the 80s and 90s because of how weirdly nonpolitical the jokes are. Doonesbury and Bloom County were outliers. Trudeau was a cunt whose comics were widely hated, but included because newspaper editors loved them. Berke Breathed was a lib, sure, but he wasn't quite so sanctimonious and genuinely funny.

But outside of that, the rest of the funny papers were just jokes. Kids' cartoons were just cartoons - Captain Planet was an outlier. Today, the political stuff is the norm. Every show, every joke, every form of entertainment is saturated with woke politics. Even make-up ads can't just show how their product makes a woman look; they have to be a social statement about trannies.

You can't even say you miss things not always being political before some fat, blue-haired harridan who works in HR shrieks at you about SILENCE IS VIOLENCE.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The oldest cohort of millennials are now middle age. A lot of smoke was blown up our asses in the 1990s and 2000s but started to be left behind in the 2010s through now because we’re too white and not gay enough. I’m not surprised that there’s a lot of looking to the past because now that we’re shoved back, millennials are starting to appreciate the shit we were taught to hate. Nostalgia is some fag shit and navel gazing about how better society was when it was run by whites is mental masturbation. The good white societies used to have didn’t just happen spontaneously, it required a lot of effort.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Both left-wing and right-wing millennials know their future got stolen from them, and they point fingers at everything--boomers, immigrants, capitalism, (((bankers))), and so forth.

Millennials recognize that the world that emerged from 9/11, the Great Recession, and the coof were all progressively shittier than the world before. Why should there be any hope for the future?

 

[Maurice Maine]

Millennials recognize that the world that emerged from 9/11, the Great Recession, and the coof were all progressively shittier than the world before. Why should there be any hope for the future?

AI, my friend. Say what you will about it but it'll enable Full Dive VR thus automatically making anime real.

 

[Wesker]

Because everything after the 00s is fucking garbage and on a declining trend that gets even worse each year.

Millennials had peak childhoods with access to so much quality, non zogged entertainment. The golden age of cartoons, movies, video games and not having parents or schools trying to mutilate our genitals.

Kids today live sterile, plastic, soulless lives. Everything they have access to has to be some propaganda trying to convince them that niggers are human and having butt sex with adults is great.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I remember when social media was not considered a requirement to network with and meet new people. Now it seems like you're looked at weirdly if you say you don't use any social media.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Kids today live sterile, plastic, soulless lives. Everything they have access to has to be some propaganda trying to convince them that niggers are human and having butt sex with adults is great.

zoomers and gen alpha really fucking suck as people but is still understandable that they turn to be mentally stunted, They never even had a chance, the game was rigged from the start.

The ones with at least room temperature IQ are smart enough to realize there's little hope ahead with the odds stacked against them , you see kids constantly borrowing nostalgia for things before they generation that they didn't even experience and can't even put into proper context, its pretty sad. We are still on the transition from a mechanical world to a digital one, everything that sucks about it now will suck 10x more in ten years without any sign of slowing down, it either all collaptses a or all the awful plans the technocrats have planned come through and either option is really bad for anyone not a milionaire and spell a future where most people are mentally ill in some way, economilly crippled and unhappy, In retrospect a lot of dark clouds were on the horizon already in the 2000s but most of us millenials were still naive enough to look at changes in technology and culture with naive optimism. we have been guinea pigs since our childhood in many ways.

 

[Wesker]

we have been guinea pigs since our childhood in many ways.

There's that. The anti White bullshit was in play even when we were kids since there was a swarm of anti Nazi films like American History X, Apt Pupil, The Believer etc. All 80s films have a blonde haired, blue eyed man as the villain and the hero is a dark haired, dark eyed man. Some of that is happenstance like Rocky IV but any teenage film just repeats that same beat.

We at least had positive White heroes on TV, movies, cartoons, and video games. Now everything is purely for mud people and the White guy is always the villain.

The next two generations are certainly fucked. Millennials are shitty parents for sure, but look at the two generations that came before. And most of the time it's boomer grandparents the ones doing the raising.

The only silver lining is that the newer generations are further away from the Holohoax and propaganda can be more easily weeded out away from children since it's so blatant. But on the other end you have parents giving pre teen kids fucking iPhones and iPads and making them social media accounts.

As bad as shit is getting, it's going to get a whole hellva worse. But it will get better. You still have plenty of bread and circuses. So until, the Western world will continue it's slow rot since it's infrastruture, which is run by sub humans in all major cities and is crumbling, is still not at the tipping point. Places like Jackson Mississippi, Flint Michigan, which are municipalities that are completely nigger run cannot have clean water. This has to happen everywhere for there to be a shift.

 

[Duke Nukem]

AI, my friend. Say what you will about it but it'll enable Full Dive VR thus automatically making anime real.

No waifu for your laifu!

Millennials had peak childhoods with access to so much quality, non zogged entertainment. The golden age of cartoons, movies, video games and not having parents or schools trying to mutilate our genitals.

Kids today live sterile, plastic, soulless lives. Everything they have access to has to be some propaganda trying to convince them that niggers are human and having butt sex with adults is great.

My childhood was far from perfect but I do have fond memories of the 90s, I feel like things went kinda downhill when I hit sixth grade and only got worse from there on out. I didn't like school much but at least I got out soon after 9/11 and Columbine and all that crap, and long before they started pushing rainbow shit on elementary schools. Say whatever you want about sex but fuck no do not push this shit on kids especially prepubescent ones. The worst thing many of us had to worry about was maybe the schoolyard bully or the weird kid making a kill list of other students (I actually have a story about that) but now they have to worry about some nonce in a dress creaming their buns and giving them AIDS.

With the rumored rise of artificial wombs and rise of increasingly powerful AI programs, this world is bound to become even more plastic and soulless.

And the powers that be want me to be a "good person" in this hellhole of a world? Yeah sure.

I am likely the last of my kind, destined to watch humanity slip into a new era of collectivist despotism the likes of which the world has never seen. Personal liberties are considered a burden by the powers that be now rather than a positive trait, and that really gets my goat.

Fuck I have a lot to say but I second the nostalgia, as it represents a time when we actually had hope for the future.

 

[Wesker]

My childhood was far from perfect but I do have fond memories of the 90s

That's really what I'm getting at. As a childhood in a vacuum, I think most of us were very fortunate. I forgot how many cool toys there were as a kid, specifically being into transformers like Beast Wars. Cartoons back then had a normal, moral compass that was pushed onto kids. Now, it's just endless fag and diversity bullshit. I can't imagine being a kid right now with this flurry of marxist retardation brought upon them.

That isn't to say that media back then wasn't being brought to us by the very same subversive kid fuckers of today, but there was a level of decorum that wasn't broken during that era. Fags were a grey area which is troubling, but trannies were mocked relentlessly as being the psychotic freaks they really are. A major comedy like Ace Ventura's entire plot is based on a mentally ill MtF tranny.