Thoughts on Millenials being obsessed with the past

[Odd Opossum]

zoomers and gen alpha really fucking suck as people but is still understandable that they turn to be mentally stunted, They never even had a chance, the game was rigged from the start.

The ones with at least room temperature IQ are smart enough to realize there's little hope ahead with the odds stacked against them , you see kids constantly borrowing nostalgia for things before they generation that they didn't even experience and can't even put into proper context, its pretty sad. We are still on the transition from a mechanical world to a digital one, everything that sucks about it now will suck 10x more in ten years without any sign of slowing down, it either all collaptses a or all the awful plans the technocrats have planned come through and either option is really bad for anyone not a milionaire and spell a future where most people are mentally ill in some way, economilly crippled and unhappy, In retrospect a lot of dark clouds were on the horizon already in the 2000s but most of us millenials were still naive enough to look at changes in technology and culture with naive optimism. we have been guinea pigs since our childhood in many ways.

Aren't you Venezuelan?

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Aren't you Venezuelan?

yes, i've already lived through one colapse in my lifetime, i guess that makes my outlook much more pessimistic than average. Last few years of global trends and seeing how things are going in other countries have not helped with that and only made it worse.

 

[Duke Nukem]

That's really what I'm getting at. As a childhood in a vacuum, I think most of us were very fortunate. I forgot how many cool toys there were as a kid, specifically being into transformers like Beast Wars. Cartoons back then had a normal, moral compass that was pushed onto kids. Now, it's just endless fag and diversity bullshit. I can't imagine being a kid right now with this flurry of marxist retardation brought upon them.

That isn't to say that media back then wasn't being brought to us by the very same subversive kid fuckers of today, but there was a level of decorum that wasn't broken during that era. Fags were a grey area which is troubling, but trannies were mocked relentlessly as being the psychotic freaks they really are. A major comedy like Ace Ventura's entire plot is based on a mentally ill MtF tranny.

People of Current Year often forget that there were some pretty diverse casts in movies and shows of the 90s, but God forbid the specter of racial harmony fuck with our grift. I do remember GI Joe and Sonic SatAM were my jam. I'm just dismayed they never thought to create a video game version of that one, their version of Robotnik was actually believably evil and dangerous. Diversity existed but it came naturally, they didn't remind you of how black and gay they were every five seconds.

I want to believe that wokeshit will fail eventually but these people have a lot of backing even now. There's a lot I could say about this global citizen crap but that's a story for another day.

yes, i've already lived through one colapse in my lifetime, i guess that makes my outlook much more pessimistic than average. Last few years of global trends and seeing how things are going in other countries have not helped with that and only made it worse.

Is it true that internet joke pictures were used in place of the VZ currency, or is that just clickbait to parody the government and its own incompetence?

 

[Wesker]

Diversity existed but it came naturally, they didn't remind you of how black and gay they were every five seconds.

Predator has a very diverse cast but that doesn't change the fact it's on the Mount Rushmore of action films. It was written so that everyone played a part and race didn't come into to play AT ALL. They were written as Character A Character B. It wasn't written as Black character A, Hispanic character B.

I can deal with it when it's not spotlighted like how it is today. The comradery between Apollo Creed and Rocky Balboa, and Roger Murtaugh and Martin Riggs are my two favorite sets of movie buddies since it was done without even mentioning they're different races.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Is it true that internet joke pictures were used in place of the VZ currency

the currency is a joke but people simply use dollars, euros, colombian pesos, crypto or whatever not rare pepes. Right now everything is de facto dollarized, when you ask for a price they tell you the dollar ammount first.

The runescape gold drama was real though, some kids did killed themselves over shit like Axie Infinity because scrapping with stuff like that was how they survived, and i guess thats where the meme might come from.

 

[Ser Prize]

With all the severe nostalgia I wonder if we'll one day get Amish style communes where the tech level is kept at early 90's and strictly enforced.

 

[Duke Nukem]

the currency is a joke but people simply use dollars, euros, colombian pesos, crypto or whatever not rare pepes. Right now everything is de facto dollarized, when you ask for a price they tell you the dollar ammount first.

The runescape gold drama was real though, some kids did killed themselves over shit like Axie Infinity because scrapping with stuff like that was how they survived, and i guess thats where the meme might come from.

Can I buy empanadas with Reddit Gold instead? I don't have any rare Pepes, RuneScape gold, or for that matter, dollar bills.

With all the severe nostalgia I wonder if we'll one day get Amish style communes where the tech level is kept at early 90's and strictly enforced.

Speaking of the 90s, if nothing else, Demolition Man predicted the mentality that people of the future would have. Be well.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Can I buy empanadas with Reddit Gold instead? I don't have any rare Pepes, RuneScape gold, or for that matter, dollar bills.

that sounds like even more of a meme than bolivares. Better stick to the dollar bills.

With all the severe nostalgia I wonder if we'll one day get Amish style communes where the tech level is kept at early 90's and strictly enforced.

People might learn someday and as a collective decide to take drastic measures but it will probably take the worst possible scenarios to play out before that happens. I do see more millenials around my age who are dropping out, leaving social media, doing internet detox for their own health and trying to keep their kids out of the algorithmic hell but i don't think those are the norm, the norm is still niggercattle uncritically adopting everything from current year and leaving their kids exposed.

 

[seri0us]

Predator has a very diverse cast but that doesn't change the fact it's on the Mount Rushmore of action films. It was written so that everyone played a part and race didn't come into to play AT ALL. They were written as Character A Character B. It wasn't written as Black character A, Hispanic character B.

I can deal with it when it's not spotlighted like how it is today. The comradery between Apollo Creed and Rocky Balboa, and Roger Murtaugh and Martin Riggs are my two favorite sets of movie buddies since it was done without even mentioning they're different races.

The scariest part of Predator is when the black guy started dry shaving to relax

 

[Xarpho's Return]

People of Current Year often forget that there were some pretty diverse casts in movies and shows of the 90s, but God forbid the specter of racial harmony fuck with our grift. I do remember GI Joe and Sonic SatAM were my jam. I'm just dismayed they never thought to create a video game version of that one, their version of Robotnik was actually believably evil and dangerous. Diversity existed but it came naturally, they didn't remind you of how black and gay they were every five seconds.

Usually, this was through maybe one or two black characters in each show, which was alright because they aren't a large minority in the country, weren't written as diversity hires, and went hand in hand with what millennials were taught in school, that institutional racism was effectively in the past, blacks are just like us, they can use the same stuff, be provided the same opportunities, then during Obama's reign that all changed and in the course of 15 years blacks became a major problem. Maybe they always were. But 1990s globalism could at least let you pretend that you could have the best of both worlds, where you could have still have things named after people who fought in the Confederacy because that's what your state did back in the mid-19th century while providing black people with the same opportunities as you did.

 

[IKOL]

To adress the main concern of the subject, do have a good look at the environment you live in, you do remember the times of when you were young, yes? The answer is there.
It was different then, drastically. People were still people, and not automatons or fearful thoughts riddled mass like today.
Everyone had hopes and dreams, along with the self-assurance in that tomorrow will be ever better.
Today? well., it's utter mess and unpredictable clownworld timeline where making any positive predicaments is to sign your own psych ward warrant these days, unfortunately.

Being born in 90s Russia is a quiest of a lifetime.
Do I feel nostalgic or ever wanting to return to that time when I was a child\teenager, ie in a timespan beetween 2000 to 2011? no. Not really. I mean yes I do have some good memories here and there but, overall?

Spoiler: Power Level inside

I can't tell about any person's experience there but, my youth time was rather a circlejerk and one hell of a mistake in many aspects.
From me being rather a loner than social type (because, like I do today, have hated among mid and large crowds) up to be in everlasting conflicts with my classmates and groupmates because I wasn't able to cope with their imbecilic behavior back then. Doesn't help that I was very closed in myself, basically. Yes, like any child was arrogant, egoistic, but along with that I always had somewhat depressive thoughts all due to a lot of issues related to what is my family and how I was treated among the people overall. If adults haven't had any problem with me and what person I am, slavic niggercattle of my age despised me very, very much.
I don't have fond memories of the past, I don't cherish the time when I was younger, because both me and the people around - we all were quite stupid, I have uynderstood that too late, in a way.
Can only tell that the best years of my life were between 2012-2016. When I went to institute, have met good people that weren't looked at me as a scape goat or target for their retarded shit. It's when my proper views regarding life and everything around have started to form proper, when these "teenage extremes" were more or less settled. Though IF I knew better, some other mistakes I've made after 2016 would've not happen. Unfortunately I remain to be a pretty shortsighted and foolish, still.

Regarding the rest, well... like a lot of people have already told, my generation feels pretty much lied to and betrayed, it's not exclusive to USA or Russia at any point, that's a worldwide problem. We live in a world that was build by people that never knew actual struggles then and now, most of the rich people, the politicians, celebrities, most of these know fuck all about the struggles of ordinary Joe\John\Bob\Ivan\Mykola\Ayatollah, they don't care both because the live leauges above all of us and because the majority of these characters are fucking kykes. "The Chosen" "People" my ass.

My parents were born in 70s, they have witnessed the Soviet time back then, and never stopped comparing then and now. For all the downs, Soviets have somewhat cared about people that lived in the Union, after all. Not because they really wanted to but because there was no choice, everyone knew the testaments, the manifesto that was written by Lenin, by Stalin, and everyone remembered that when the government is losing its sight and touch with the people, the latter start to feel unjust, and that might lead to revolt and further "revolution", again.

What've happened in 90s there was that exact case of "revolution", although the decision wasn't made by the people, it was made by the very men and women whom I've described already. Of the tribe of Judas, greedy and prideful of their social and finantial well being.
Same thing that was undergoing in US for decades now was in very rapid pace performed there, minus the globohomo bullshit such as troonery and child groomeng switching from stigmas to "normal, appropriate behaviour". From somewhat prospering "commonwealth", to stagnating giant slowly dying out due to ineffective strategies and decisions, to crime riddled shithole only for get it crawl back to its knees back to the light, performing slow but needed steps to get to the better tomorrow which I, sadly, will not see, and something tells me neither of you. Our descendants, perhaps, but not everyone living today.
Call me blackpilled doomer or something like this but it is how I do feel about where we all are going. It's getting worse, it moves into the worst possible predicted future. I don't know how to feel about that overall, but do hope the better tomorrow will come, at once...

 

[The Last Stand]

I personally take offense to that title. There's nothing to look forward currently, so the best thing is to look back.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

Thank you, Pissmaster, for yet another quality thread.

I've been wrestling with this quite a lot, and more often recently, being in the same age group. I'm fully aware of my obsession over the past, and I'm very bothered by it. It's not a state of mind anyone should trap themselves in, but HOLY FUCK GODDAMN, this world really is a hell compared to the world I grew up in, and I don't think it's just nostalgia goggles. I got to have some young adulthood before things went to shit, and those were some of the best times of my life. I could never have now, what I had then, for reasons entirely external to me.

I can't think of a single thing that is better today, compared to how things were 20-30 years ago. Not even technology, which is absolutely superior in power, but crippled in every other way, or weaponized against us. As much as I hate that I think this way, I can't stop, because I know I'm right.

Every now and again, I'll catch myself in this sort of fugue state, where I'll just stare off into the distance and think about the things I used to have, or be able to do, that simply don't exist anymore. Not necessarily the "finding young love in summer camp" FoMo-type shit that people usually get hung up about. It's more like the realization that we can't have small trucks anymore thanks to the NHTSA and EPA, or that modern video games don't have server browsers where you can pick the group of people you want to play with, or that I can't do that thing I liked to do anymore because it's illegal now. It truly fucking sucks to live in this time.

Sometime in the early 2010s, I realized that things are just gonna keep getting worse, for the rest of my life. Not a day goes by where I'm not totally justified in thinking that way. There is no future, and I say that a lot, but it seems that not a whole lot of people get where I'm coming from when I say that. Yes, the sun will rise and set many trillions of times after the year 2000, before it all comes to an end, but the potential futures that are available to us are not futures worth living in. Tomorrow will genuinely never be better than yesterday. How could it? We live in a cyberpunk dystopia, for christ's sake. Like it or not, these are the less-than-theatrical end-times.

When I was about 10, my dad told me something that resonated with me. "The world isn't out to get you". He was right, back then. He isn't anymore. Every major institution on the crust of this planet wants you dead, or living like a pauper or serf, and they have FAR more control over my destiny than I do. The only solution is violence, and that's why I'm biding my time.

 

[John Titor]

There was some article that discussed how nostalgia is a defense mechanism though we tend to have a romanticize view of the past. There some things I think I would relive but I have to remind myself that there were shitty parts too.

Then we probably went to the photo developing store and had a roll of film developed. I've never used a film-based camera in my life, and I'm not even sure if I could get it developed anywhere locally. I have a scant idea of how to use one, but if I absolutely had to right now, I'd lean heavily on the instruction manual.

By the way, 1 hour photo places still exist to my surprise. They just expanded to doing portraits and passport photos but you could find a place that can still process film. I even found disposable cameras on sale again.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Well, after the 90s, what good things were there? That's when everything truly converged on mass produced media. Obviously I think 80s music was far better--there's more good 80s bands than from the entirety of the 00s-20s. With movies that's mostly true, with anything even somewhat daring having gone by the wayside. I guess TV is better than it was then, but who wants to watch TV all day?

Each decade from the 20th century has it's own very unique "feel" imo. I don't really think that's true of 2000 onwards. Not to say there haven't been certain cultural changes but it feels like the rate of cultural change has slowed down. I actually think this is because new trends pop up so easily they don't have time to metastasize into proper subcultures. Instead they just get replaced by some other new bullshit before they have time to become their own thing. Try to think of the difference between 2023 and 2000 and compare it to the difference between 2000 and 1977. Same time gap, but imo 2023 is far more similar to 2000 than 2000 was to 1977.

 

[cybertoaster]

Nah I don't have nostalgia per se, its more like this:

. Millennial nostalgia is rooted in knowing the past was objectively better in every way. Boomer nostalgia is based on aesthetic desires combined with their past being worse than the future. For Millennials, the future is just bad and mostly out of their control.

There's a phrase that hits me like a brick, its something like this:

"What kills you is not the life you have but the life you didn't have"

Which bring me to this:

they had no idea what it was like to feel the unbridled optimism of the 90s and just watch things seemingly get better with every passing year.

all things considered, it was a great time to be alive.

It really was a good time, a time of hope. The amount of things that were "just around the corner" was staggering, TV was full of shows about the future, both near and far. We all felt the future was right there! just had to wait a tiny bit more.

"Any day now..."

Boomers wax nostalgic about the 50's and 60's but you look at media of the time and people were scared shitless of dying like in hiroshima. The 90's was the first time in a long fucking while when there wasn't the looming threat of nuclear armageddon hanging above our heads (don't worry zoomers its all coming back).

We're the first generation in a really long time that's going to have a worse life than the generations before. There was a slow but steady improvement in quality of life since the renaissance and it skyrocketed during the 20th century, but all that is coming to an end and we get to see it.

Its kind of like those accounts from people in the middle age visiting Rome and seeing the eternal city had become little more than a town of poor ignorant people living among the ruins, seeing the monumental buildings like the colosseum and the pantheon abandoned full of trash and weeds and wondering "what was it like when things were good?". And it took centuries for things to get good again for westerners, its what the wokes can't understand that our civilization wasn't always on top and in fact we used to be on the receiving end of a lot of catastrophic awful shit for a long time and back then we always got the short end of the stick.

Our time in the sun its relatively recent.

The party didn't even last that long really, if we consider the renaissance as the rise of The West (which is being generous since we were still dealing with shit like barbary pirates and the ottomans until the late 1700's) and our current time as the end of our hegemony then all of western civilization has lasted about 1/6th than the ancient Egyptians did. Even Rome lasted between 2 and 3 times longer...

What hits hard for us millennials is that unlike those peasants living in post-fall Rome we remember how good things used to be, how good we had it, and most of all how short the good times were. Boomers were well into their 40s when the ride began to get bumpy, but we were in our early teens when the entire world went to shit and two forever wars began, followed by a massive recession, and then during our late 20s and early 30s a once-in-a-century pandemic hit and now we're looking at the possibility of yet another massive recession and also WWIII, tho it seems even god agrees this last one is too much punishment which is why it will be mostly zoomers getting drafted. We're too fucking old for that.

This what I try to explain to other people, its not just classic nostalgia tripping, we're objectively worse now than in the 90's. Even if you're gay or black and you think you have it better the reality is that you're still in this sinking ship with the rest of us. The jobs are gone, the factories will remain closed, you still can't get a house and society will keep falling apart, but hey rainbow flags with all the colors right?

Seeing the impact of plandemic lockdown have been doing to the millennial population, it seems that they are taking a even more defeatist position than they did during the recession

You can only beat a horse so many times until it just rolls over and dies.

All of a sudden the Internet went from being for "losers", to the center of drama for all of the popular social climbers,

I saw that for the first time with early twitter when the B-list celebs like Kutchner showed up so all the normies wanted to join.

It was all downhill after that.

I feel like we're on the precipice of creating a very real dystopia.

Precipice? we're the coyote standing in mid air.

And here comes the fall...

AI, my friend. Say what you will about it but it'll enable Full Dive VR thus automatically making anime real.

You wont be able to afford it.

some kids did killed themselves over shit like Axie Infinity because scrapping with stuff like that was how they survived

Go on, what happened?

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Go on, what happened?

Axie was one of those korean crypto games that was like a clone of pokemon except the creatures had a value on the app's shitcoin which the game economy was based around. You had to invest a certain ammount of money to buy your first Axie creature and begin playing but once you do you can recruit people to play the game for you under a "scholarship" or something like that and have these poor fucks grinding in the most unfun minigames for entire days so they could earn shitcoins for you a in a twisted pyramid scheme.

You can see where this is going, a lot of these venezuelans were using Axie as a means to survive, grinding away or investing on the game economy but eventually the rug was pulled, the shitcoin dropped to nothing and Axie was over leaving them with nothing overnight. I saw one particular dude posting that he had spent a good deal of his earnings buying the axie shitcoin so he could move up and start recruiting other people just before the drop, loosing all his savings and having no future prospects just went on to say that was his last goodbye, wouldn't surprise me he did it. I've known about a fair share of suicides over similar circunstances.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

had dinner with family last week and the conversation about our childhoods came up. the youngest works in the school system and says kids dont really play around like we used to. they too busy playing around with their phones and doing stupid shit on tik-tok. i told a story how all the kids in the neighborhood used to group up during summer and play games with eachother (tag hide and seek, cops and robbers etc) and everyone was invited. it didn't matter if you were 8 or 13, everyone who wanted to just hang out and play could, as long as you asked. mom also recalled how noisy our neighborhood was during our childhood since all families had kids and all went outside to socialize, making a ruckus to atleast 10 pm. then the adults would throw parties and get themselves shit faced and make noise til atleast 3 am (there were some night you could not sleep with how hot and loud it was).

you dont really see kids play that much outside anymore unless its toddlers being with their parent.

 

[skykiii]

Not sure if this actually answers the topic question, but I've long had a thought.

Basically, progress... happened way too fast In the last 40 years we saw both social and technological changes that should've happened over the course of centuries, instead happening rather rapidly.

Especially compared to history, where it often feels like things were relatively stable for hundreds of years and any major changes were gradual, and any that genuinely were sudden tended to actually be notable events.

And I wonder if this is part of the fascination with the recent past: People are on some level instinctually aware that we zoomed a little too much and should actually still be in certain stages, and maybe that's caused some people to be a little uncomfortable.

I tend to also think that's part of the reason there's such a huge tendency towards nostalgia lately--its actually people's brains saying "this should still be a thing, we weren't ready to pass beyond this yet."

 

[TruffleSpark]

Ya wanna know why I opine for the older days? How many things in your life are turning into "services", or how many things we used to enjoy are now exclusively subscriptions or chopped up into pieces to pull more money out of you? Put on top of that the requirement to be political in EVERYTHING and it's a recipie for misery.

You will own nothing and you will be happy

Millennials are the last generation that can remember a time before politics. It's really striking to read newspaper cartoons from the 80s and 90s because of how weirdly nonpolitical the jokes are. Doonesbury and Bloom County were outliers. Trudeau was a cunt whose comics were widely hated, but included because newspaper editors loved them. Berke Breathed was a lib, sure, but he wasn't quite so sanctimonious and genuinely funny.

There was still politics, but there was an understanding that there should be a firewall between that and normal day to day living.

I remember when social media was not considered a requirement to network with and meet new people. Now it seems like you're looked at weirdly if you say you don't use any social media.

The modern social media panopticon also promotes a culture of toxic positivity. Because you slip up once and say the incorrect opinion it can come down like down on you like a ton of bricks. I have to come to website like this one where I have to hide my identity in order to express my wrongthink opinions.