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I mean, being a narcissistic hapas incel with a gambling addiction and a girlfriend who doesn't respect you DOES count as "personal issues".
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How is this crazy? This is actually happening. There are a ton of companies buying/selling/trading metadata and connections with your social media profiles. Three letter agencies are buying some of that stuff as well. Is that data all accurate? Well probably not. Some of these profiles probably have a ton of stuff from another you (someone with the same name, but they're in Jackson, Mississippi and you're in Jackson, Florida) and yes the data is dirty .. which .. might make it better or worse?-Luke steals the crazy schtick from Ian, this episode:
I get what you're trying to say but I disagree and I'd highly suggest you watch something like the Rittenhouse trial to understand just how slimy the prosecutors are when it comes the lies they'll tell the jury and how they'll literally defend pedophiles with multiple victims under the age of 12 as good boys that "just swung a chain, naughty naughty".He's been convicted. Found guilty by a jury of his peers. Evidence was presented and 12 people decided based on the presentations of the defense and the prosecution that this man committed murder, as defined by the state, beyond reasonable doubt. No one is talking about appeal, we are discussing a pardon.
I think Tim is a tard on this one and Ian is right. If all it takes is an apology like Tim says and he'll buy many cases of Bud Light, then what's the risk to brands? All that will happen is they will continue to push this crap, if it works they'll double down, and if it fails they'll issue a half assed apology and move on. If there's actual long lasting damage despite an apology they might consider otherwise.-Ian wanted to go scorched earth on Bud Light:
Entirely possible. & Apologies, one drawback of trying to clip moments is the context being lost from the before & after, which I see but is not included. I try to keep them around 1 minute to save on upload times. I will include the entire conversation, below.How is this crazy? This is actually happening. There are a ton of companies buying/selling/trading metadata and connections with your social media profiles. Three letter agencies are buying some of that stuff as well. Is that data all accurate? Well probably not. Some of these profiles probably have a ton of stuff from another you (someone with the same name, but they're in Jackson, Mississippi and you're in Jackson, Florida) and yes the data is dirty .. which .. might make it better or worse?
I dunno. I don't think Luke is crazy here. It might not be implemented the way a lot of people think, with government social credit scores; but we might see private company restrictions based on some social score in the future.
That is all a fine point to make, for an appeal. Again, that is not the purpose of a pardon. A pardon is not going to make this man any less a murderer. He will still be convicted. If the trial was bad the only one who can fix it is another judge, not the governor.I get what you're trying to say but I disagree and I'd highly suggest you watch something like the Rittenhouse trial to understand just how slimy the prosecutors are when it comes the lies they'll tell the jury and how they'll literally defend pedophiles with multiple victims under the age of 12 as good boys that "just swung a chain, naughty naughty".
That's fine if you want to believe that but I just think it's stupid to go into a rigged game, play by the rules, and then when offered to be given restitution for being robbed you say no thanks because you believe in rules that no one else is playing by.That is all a fine point to make, for an appeal. Again, that is not the purpose of a pardon. A pardon is not going to make this man any less a murderer. He will still be convicted. If the trial was bad the only one who can fix it is another judge, not the governor.
I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.That's fine if you want to believe that but I just think it's stupid to go into a rigged game, play by the rules, and then when offered to be given restitution for being robbed you say no thanks because you believe in rules that no one else is playing by.
This opinion is profoundly retarded and you're a disgrace to your username.I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.
Peace and security are vital roles of the state.
Haha, yes, I was much more of a libertarian when I joined the forum originally. Seeing the absolute disgrace of humanity over and over has soured my opinions.This opinion is profoundly retarded and you're a disgrace to your username.
This isn't someone carjacking, this is someone who was sitting inside their car when another person, accompanied by a group of rioters, walked up to them and pointed a rifle at them, at which point they shot the person in combat gear pointing a rifle at them in a crowd of dangerous rioters.I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.
Peace and security are vital roles of the state.
And yet you're here advocating for people to be punished for defending themselves against a crime.That and being a victim of crime.
Pray the state never deems you or a loved one a criminal then even if you have done nothing wrong.I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.
Peace and security are vital roles of the state.
And he had his day in court, like everyone else. No ones claiming he didn't shoot the guy. The prosecution had the burden of proof and they beat it.This isn't someone carjacking, this is someone who was sitting inside their car when another person, accompanied by a group of rioters, walked up to them and pointed a rifle at them, at which point they shot the person in combat gear pointing a rifle at them in a crowd of dangerous rioters.
I am not advocating for someone to be punished for defending themselves. The state and jury concluded this was not self defense. I am advocating for the will of the people, the jury, to overrule one person who isn't even a judge. At least when it comes to violent crime.And yet you're here advocating for people to be punished for defending themselves against a crime.
Edit: And I don't mean to be a dick, but I really recommend you take some time off the Internet, and probably drinking, to reflect on some of your positions.
That's a very naïve way of looking at things.The prosecution had the burden of proof
I am advocating for the will of the people
This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.As far as my positions, I likewise question how all of you can see people like SnakeThing, KeroTheWolf, and the tranch and think that humans aren't just inherently bad.
That's not up to the governor to decide though. It's a judge, a jury, and the law. The executive branch should not unilaterally free anyone anymore than they should unilaterally imprison them. That's too much power for one person to have.That's a very naïve way of looking at things.
This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.
By his own logic that guy with the gun pointing it at him was evil and going to kill him.This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.
No. But he still does time for killing the other person. Or he tries to appeal.By his own logic that guy with the gun pointing it at him was evil and going to kill him.
So was the guy in his car going down the road that got swarmed by all these bad people supposed to just sit there and get murdered?
Ask any defense lawyer how likely an appeal is to ever work.No. But he still does time for killing the other person. Or he tries to appeal.
You defend this one case on its individual merits. I attack the practice on its broad merits. Cyntoia Brown brought a firearm with her to shoot a sleeping man in the back of the head and robbed him. Now she's back on the streets after only 15 years. You cannot trust this power to the government. They will free crooks because they are black.Ask any defense lawyer how likely an appeal is to ever work.
And why should you do time for saving your own life?
You're really doubling down on the wrong things here man.
Pardons are good because they're basically a backup for when you have exactly this situation.
Its like a dad killing a pedophile raping their child going to prison for "Cause its wrong to kill someone!".
Same situation where the law says its wrong, but it was the right fuckin thing to do. But the Jury is too brain damaged to understand nullification.
Its the big "Holy shit you retards fucked this one up." button.
An executive pardon is a specific check against mob rule and situations exactly like this one.I am advocating for the will of the people, the jury, to overrule one person who isn't even a judge. At least when it comes to violent crime.
Humans ARE inherently bad which is why all human run institutions are inherently corrupt. This statement has nothing to do with any of your points.As far as my positions, I likewise question how all of you can see people like SnakeThing, KeroTheWolf, and the tranch and think that humans aren't just inherently bad.
Yes it is for the Governor to decide. A Governor can't convict you of a crime because that power has been specifically ear marked for a jury of your peers because you're right that the power to convict is too much power for one man. But a Governor has every right to say "Hol' up a sec y'all!" and free whoever he wants. The governor is elected and tasked with representing the interests of the entire state of Texas, not just Austin.That's not up to the governor to decide though. It's a judge, a jury, and the law. The executive branch should not unilaterally free anyone anymore than they should unilaterally imprison them. That's too much power for one person to have.
And your solution to this is what, put an innocent white man in prison?They will free crooks because they are black.