💰 Grifter Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

[HootersMcBoobies]

-Luke steals the crazy schtick from Ian, this episode:

How is this crazy? This is actually happening. There are a ton of companies buying/selling/trading metadata and connections with your social media profiles. Three letter agencies are buying some of that stuff as well. Is that data all accurate? Well probably not. Some of these profiles probably have a ton of stuff from another you (someone with the same name, but they're in Jackson, Mississippi and you're in Jackson, Florida) and yes the data is dirty .. which .. might make it better or worse?

I dunno. I don't think Luke is crazy here. It might not be implemented the way a lot of people think, with government social credit scores; but we might see private company restrictions based on some social score in the future.

 

[Retink Retunk]

He's been convicted. Found guilty by a jury of his peers. Evidence was presented and 12 people decided based on the presentations of the defense and the prosecution that this man committed murder, as defined by the state, beyond reasonable doubt. No one is talking about appeal, we are discussing a pardon.

I get what you're trying to say but I disagree and I'd highly suggest you watch something like the Rittenhouse trial to understand just how slimy the prosecutors are when it comes the lies they'll tell the jury and how they'll literally defend pedophiles with multiple victims under the age of 12 as good boys that "just swung a chain, naughty naughty".

And don't forget, they kept saying Kyle shot him in the back, and tried to use autopsy evidence with that. What they didn't disclose was that the bullet hit the back shoulder while the child rapist was lunging at him and horizontal, which put the gun above him.

Or watch the Nathan DeBruin cross (timestamped):

These people are scum, they will lie, they will cheat, and they will do anything in their power to rape you and they think it's funny.

Edit: Also, watch jury selection videos as well. In the Rittenhouse trial a potential juror says he might be biased because he supports 2A rights and the judge has to tell him believing in the constitution isn't biased. Meanwhile a juror slipped in that was at BLM riots wearing the full BLM support merch. When asked about it, he said he somehow forgot that happened. At the Kim Potter case, the judge caught one woman who kept claiming she wasn't biased over and over that as an extreme activists. These activists have no issue worming their way onto juries because they want to fuck their enemies, remember this.

Edit 2: And don't forget who your current Vice President is:

And remember that a good portion of governors during Covid passed edicts that would put you or I in jail and they themselves broke their own edict almost instantly and nothing happened.

-Ian wanted to go scorched earth on Bud Light:

I think Tim is a tard on this one and Ian is right. If all it takes is an apology like Tim says and he'll buy many cases of Bud Light, then what's the risk to brands? All that will happen is they will continue to push this crap, if it works they'll double down, and if it fails they'll issue a half assed apology and move on. If there's actual long lasting damage despite an apology they might consider otherwise.

One thing I found interesting in the 5 minutes of this video that I watched is he repeats that and also mentions he doesn't care about the story, he's just doing it because the video he made got a lot of clicks. He walks it back that that makes it an important breaking point story, but really he's just bandwagoning for money.

 

[JamesWebbSlinger]

How is this crazy? This is actually happening. There are a ton of companies buying/selling/trading metadata and connections with your social media profiles. Three letter agencies are buying some of that stuff as well. Is that data all accurate? Well probably not. Some of these profiles probably have a ton of stuff from another you (someone with the same name, but they're in Jackson, Mississippi and you're in Jackson, Florida) and yes the data is dirty .. which .. might make it better or worse?

I dunno. I don't think Luke is crazy here. It might not be implemented the way a lot of people think, with government social credit scores; but we might see private company restrictions based on some social score in the future.

Entirely possible. & Apologies, one drawback of trying to clip moments is the context being lost from the before & after, which I see but is not included. I try to keep them around 1 minute to save on upload times. I will include the entire conversation, below.

Luke tries to link this data collection to testing 15 minute cities in China & Australia's COVID lockdowns as a dry run, the "50 Cent Army" of influencers hired by Joe Biden for his 2024 re-election getting better privileges, while you will be far more limited, the checkpoints already being there, etc. To the average person tuning in, this may appear a titch cuckoo when combined with his hyped up performance in last night's show, since they are not backing this up with some outside sources.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

I get what you're trying to say but I disagree and I'd highly suggest you watch something like the Rittenhouse trial to understand just how slimy the prosecutors are when it comes the lies they'll tell the jury and how they'll literally defend pedophiles with multiple victims under the age of 12 as good boys that "just swung a chain, naughty naughty".

That is all a fine point to make, for an appeal. Again, that is not the purpose of a pardon. A pardon is not going to make this man any less a murderer. He will still be convicted. If the trial was bad the only one who can fix it is another judge, not the governor.

 

[Retink Retunk]

That is all a fine point to make, for an appeal. Again, that is not the purpose of a pardon. A pardon is not going to make this man any less a murderer. He will still be convicted. If the trial was bad the only one who can fix it is another judge, not the governor.

That's fine if you want to believe that but I just think it's stupid to go into a rigged game, play by the rules, and then when offered to be given restitution for being robbed you say no thanks because you believe in rules that no one else is playing by.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

That's fine if you want to believe that but I just think it's stupid to go into a rigged game, play by the rules, and then when offered to be given restitution for being robbed you say no thanks because you believe in rules that no one else is playing by.

I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.

Peace and security are vital roles of the state.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.

Peace and security are vital roles of the state.

This opinion is profoundly retarded and you're a disgrace to your username.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

This opinion is profoundly retarded and you're a disgrace to your username.

Haha, yes, I was much more of a libertarian when I joined the forum originally. Seeing the absolute disgrace of humanity over and over has soured my opinions.

That and being a victim of crime.

 

[Retink Retunk]

I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.

Peace and security are vital roles of the state.

This isn't someone carjacking, this is someone who was sitting inside their car when another person, accompanied by a group of rioters, walked up to them and pointed a rifle at them, at which point they shot the person in combat gear pointing a rifle at them in a crowd of dangerous rioters.

That and being a victim of crime.

And yet you're here advocating for people to be punished for defending themselves against a crime.

Edit: And I don't mean to be a dick, but I really recommend you take some time off the Internet, and probably drinking, to reflect on some of your positions.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

I am not going to watch this video cause I know it is 100% click bait. Tim is a fucking disgrace. I haven't watched his content even scrubbed it in about two months now and my life honestly feels better for it. I just noticed that it looks like he made himself larger in the videos too. No longer just about the news we gotta get a larger view of ol beanie boy.

Looks like images upload is broken right now and I'm not gonna link to the video I don't even want to give him a lower CTR %

https://imgur.com/a/FCclkzM

Tim yells at people for living the Mario Movie.
"NO Conservatives how dare you like popular thing! YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT IT!"
This child is a fucking muppet at this point.

I would rather let 100 innocent people rot in prison than one guilty person go free. I do not believe criminals can reform, as soon as someone demonstrates their lack of respect for the rule of law and steals one car they should be executed. In my opinion.

Peace and security are vital roles of the state.

Pray the state never deems you or a loved one a criminal then even if you have done nothing wrong.
Cause they'll lie, omit things that would exonerate you, and do their best to frame you if they even feel you slighted them. And if they get caught there won't be any repercussions they'll just do it again. Rittenhouse's trial shoulda shown you that. Remember who is in power. Do you think they're fair and honest?
And then remember who will be trying you. The dumbest of the dumbest. Cause most smart people get kicked off juries unless they're gaming the system for reasons.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

This isn't someone carjacking, this is someone who was sitting inside their car when another person, accompanied by a group of rioters, walked up to them and pointed a rifle at them, at which point they shot the person in combat gear pointing a rifle at them in a crowd of dangerous rioters.

And he had his day in court, like everyone else. No ones claiming he didn't shoot the guy. The prosecution had the burden of proof and they beat it.

And yet you're here advocating for people to be punished for defending themselves against a crime.

Edit: And I don't mean to be a dick, but I really recommend you take some time off the Internet, and probably drinking, to reflect on some of your positions.

I am not advocating for someone to be punished for defending themselves. The state and jury concluded this was not self defense. I am advocating for the will of the people, the jury, to overrule one person who isn't even a judge. At least when it comes to violent crime.

As far as my positions, I likewise question how all of you can see people like SnakeThing, KeroTheWolf, and the tranch and think that humans aren't just inherently bad.

 

[Retink Retunk]

The prosecution had the burden of proof

That's a very naïve way of looking at things.

I am advocating for the will of the people

As far as my positions, I likewise question how all of you can see people like SnakeThing, KeroTheWolf, and the tranch and think that humans aren't just inherently bad.

This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

That's a very naïve way of looking at things.

This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.

That's not up to the governor to decide though. It's a judge, a jury, and the law. The executive branch should not unilaterally free anyone anymore than they should unilaterally imprison them. That's too much power for one person to have.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

This isn't about people being inherently good or bad, it's about whether or not if you're sitting in your own car, minding you own business, and a mob of rioters walks up to you and points a gun at you, do you have the right to defend yourself.

By his own logic that guy with the gun pointing it at him was evil and going to kill him.
So was the guy in his car going down the road that got swarmed by all these bad people supposed to just sit there and get murdered?

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

By his own logic that guy with the gun pointing it at him was evil and going to kill him.
So was the guy in his car going down the road that got swarmed by all these bad people supposed to just sit there and get murdered?

No. But he still does time for killing the other person. Or he tries to appeal.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

No. But he still does time for killing the other person. Or he tries to appeal.

Ask any defense lawyer how likely an appeal is to ever work.
And why should you do time for saving your own life?

You're really doubling down on the wrong things here man.
Pardons are good because they're basically a backup for when you have exactly this situation.

Its like a dad killing a pedophile raping their child going to prison for "Cause its wrong to kill someone!".
Same situation where the law says its wrong, but it was the right fuckin thing to do. But the Jury is too brain damaged to understand nullification.
Its the big "Holy shit you retards fucked this one up." button.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Ask any defense lawyer how likely an appeal is to ever work.
And why should you do time for saving your own life?

You're really doubling down on the wrong things here man.
Pardons are good because they're basically a backup for when you have exactly this situation.

Its like a dad killing a pedophile raping their child going to prison for "Cause its wrong to kill someone!".
Same situation where the law says its wrong, but it was the right fuckin thing to do. But the Jury is too brain damaged to understand nullification.
Its the big "Holy shit you retards fucked this one up." button.

You defend this one case on its individual merits. I attack the practice on its broad merits. Cyntoia Brown brought a firearm with her to shoot a sleeping man in the back of the head and robbed him. Now she's back on the streets after only 15 years. You cannot trust this power to the government. They will free crooks because they are black.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Spoiler: Continued arguing.

I am advocating for the will of the people, the jury, to overrule one person who isn't even a judge. At least when it comes to violent crime.

An executive pardon is a specific check against mob rule and situations exactly like this one.

As far as my positions, I likewise question how all of you can see people like SnakeThing, KeroTheWolf, and the tranch and think that humans aren't just inherently bad.

Humans ARE inherently bad which is why all human run institutions are inherently corrupt. This statement has nothing to do with any of your points.

That's not up to the governor to decide though. It's a judge, a jury, and the law. The executive branch should not unilaterally free anyone anymore than they should unilaterally imprison them. That's too much power for one person to have.

Yes it is for the Governor to decide. A Governor can't convict you of a crime because that power has been specifically ear marked for a jury of your peers because you're right that the power to convict is too much power for one man. But a Governor has every right to say "Hol' up a sec y'all!" and free whoever he wants. The governor is elected and tasked with representing the interests of the entire state of Texas, not just Austin.

Quit thinking emotionally. You can argue that the system we have is fucking broken without outright reversing sound principals like Blackstone's Ratio. There is nothing more stifling and oppressive than a justice system that doesn't care about collateral damage.

Could a mod move this entire conversation to a new thread because we're way off topic and I'd like to continue it? I feel like I'm shitting up the thread and none of this has anything to do with Tim.

 

[Retink Retunk]

They will free crooks because they are black.

And your solution to this is what, put an innocent white man in prison?

You're playing a game you know is rigged, and you know those criminals will be let out regardless as you've already proven. Yet your solution is to keep the innocent in prison to satisfy what exactly? This is what I'm not understanding about your argument, you're applying a set of rules universally, but only one group of people are forced to obey those rules under your current demands, and those people who are going to be forced to obey those rules aren't the criminals.

It's the whole gun free zone argument, as a person planning to shoot up some place doesn't care if it's illegal to have a gun in that place.

Like I said, playing a game that you know is rigged, and pretending it's not rig so you can play by the rules while everyone else around you benefits from the rigging, is just a dumb way to play the game.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

And your solution to this is what, put an innocent white man in prison?

You're playing a game you know is rigged, and you know those criminals will be let out regardless as you've already proven. Yet your solution is to keep the innocent in prison to satisfy what exactly? This is what I'm not understanding about your argument, you're applying a set of rules universally, but only one group of people are forced to obey those rules under your current demands, and those people who are going to be forced to obey those rules aren't the criminals.

It's the whole gun free zone argument, as a person planning to shoot up some place doesn't care if it's illegal to have a gun in that place.

Like I said, playing a game that you know is rigged, and pretending it's not rig so you can play by the rules while everyone else around you benefits from the rigging, is just a dumb way to play the game.

I don't believe the game is rigged. And having someone who breaks the rules of the game in favor of criminals is no better. I'm not saying that only in this one instance we shouldn't pardon, I'm saying for ALL crime there should be no pardons. If you are convicted by a jury of your peers then that's it. That's the system we all live under. Appeal it normally.