💰 Grifter Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

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JamesWebbSlinger said:
-How does Tim do it? Making Alex Stein sound like the sane one:
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Both Alex and Tim are kind of retarded on this topic but Tim more so.

Socializing healthcare is a massively stupid idea if your problem is corruption that creates artificial price floors in the first place like Alex is talking about because the same people who would control the socialization of the system are the same people who created the fucked prices to begin with with their regulation.

Tim's take is just retarded "man up bro, move to Mexico and live in a gunt shack."

The real solution would be to allow people to bring in medicine from other countries and providers if they so choose, as you can get a lot of medications for cheap but you can't import them legally as when you try to buy them, your account will be flagged for ordering illegal substances. I've tried out of curiosity before for something I was taking as it was significantly less expensive elsewhere. Now maybe there's a risk in taking drugs made by Romanian Witch Doctors but sometimes it's that or going bankrupt and people should have the right to make that choice for themselves.

That and probably making drugs become generic a lot sooner so that others can take a shot at manufacturing them domestically if they think they can compete.
 
Retink Retunk said:
Both Alex and Tim are kind of retarded on this topic but Tim more so.

Socializing healthcare is a massively stupid idea if your problem is corruption that creates artificial price floors in the first place like Alex is talking about because the same people who would control the socialization of the system are the same people who created the fucked prices to begin with with their regulation.

Tim's take is just retarded "man up bro, move to Mexico and live in a gunt shack."

The real solution would be to allow people to bring in medicine from other countries and providers if they so choose, as you can get a lot of medications for cheap but you can't import them legally as when you try to buy them, your account will be flagged for ordering illegal substances. I've tried out of curiosity before for something I was taking as it was significantly less expensive elsewhere. Now maybe there's a risk in taking drugs made by Romanian Witch Doctors but sometimes it's that or going bankrupt and people should have the right to make that choice for themselves.

That and probably making drugs become generic a lot sooner so that others can take a shot at manufacturing them domestically if they think they can compete.
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Aye, made a slight adjustment to that description to make Alex Stein the "more sane one".

Tim may be getting high off his own supply of bottled oxygen, out in the woods & living off super-chats, with the position he took.

Having worked in healthcare, in a few different places, I can assure you, "universal healthcare" is not all it is cracked up to be.
The inability of the United States to allow competition from European, or Japanese, medicine producers is a big bit of that argument for reducing drug prices.
Even supposed "progressives", like U.S. Senator Corey Booker cited lacklustre standards in foreign production of medicine, despite the E.U. having more stringent regulations than the United States.
Apropos of nothing, Corey Booker's home state of New Jersey happens to be a major headquarters for quite a few American drug companies, & his campaign received outsized donations from them, to boot.

*Update*
I was a titch worried about Ian with the cat passing away soon, so checked on his Twitter. &...Ian is still Ian. I cannot tell if this is in jest, or serious:
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Retink Retunk said:
Both Alex and Tim are kind of retarded on this topic but Tim more so.

Socializing healthcare is a massively stupid idea if your problem is corruption that creates artificial price floors in the first place like Alex is talking about because the same people who would control the socialization of the system are the same people who created the fucked prices to begin with with their regulation.

Tim's take is just retarded "man up bro, move to Mexico and live in a gunt shack."

The real solution would be to allow people to bring in medicine from other countries and providers if they so choose, as you can get a lot of medications for cheap but you can't import them legally as when you try to buy them, your account will be flagged for ordering illegal substances. I've tried out of curiosity before for something I was taking as it was significantly less expensive elsewhere. Now maybe there's a risk in taking drugs made by Romanian Witch Doctors but sometimes it's that or going bankrupt and people should have the right to make that choice for themselves.

That and probably making drugs become generic a lot sooner so that others can take a shot at manufacturing them domestically if they think they can compete.
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Socialized medicine is the peak of stupidity. Sure I pay for my own insurance, but I get my meds quick and seen quickly as well; I'm not dying on a wait list.

Also agree on importing other countries medicine if their standards are high. If it's good its good. You're creating artificial scarcity otherwise
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Socialized medicine is the peak of stupidity. Sure I pay for my own insurance, but I get my meds quick and seen quickly as well; I'm not dying on a wait list.

Also agree on importing other countries medicine if their standards are high. If it's good its good. You're creating artificial scarcity otherwise
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The sheer stupidity of the US medical system with its vast amount of over-regulation and the forcing of hospitals to provide care for illegal immigrants such that the cost for everyone else is inflated as a result is a testament to just how successful profit models are that it's STILL leagues better than any of the one payer systems.

Then again, what's worse? The profit model grooming kids into chopping their dicks off so they never quit needing medical care or a single payer system grooming kids into accepting assisted suicide because it's cheaper than providing actual treatment for their ailments?

Nevermind, all of its fucked. Modern medicine is an alter to baal and I'm tired of arguing which flavor of blasphemy I'd like abusing me.
 
Catgirl Tyranid said:
The sheer stupidity of the US medical system with its vast amount of over-regulation and the forcing of hospitals to provide care for illegal immigrants such that the cost for everyone else is inflated as a result is a testament to just how successful profit models are that it's STILL leagues better than any of the one payer systems.

Then again, what's worse? The profit model grooming kids into chopping their dicks off so they never quit needing medical care or a single payer system grooming kids into accepting assisted suicide because it's cheaper than providing actual treatment for their ailments?

Nevermind, all of its fucked. Modern medicine is an alter to baal and I'm tired of arguing which flavor of blasphemy I'd like abusing me.
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The sheer overregulation of everything in the US is retarded. Last year when the baby formula shortage was a thing, we had countries willing to offer to sell their stuff to us. The reason they couldn't at first? A stupid ass regulation from the FDA saying that the ingredient list wasn't in the proper order. Not that the stuff inside was bad, but the way they listed it on the side of the fucking packaging wasn't up to snuff.
 
Don't Tread on Me said:
Tim skipped videos again today. No update in his community tab.
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What a lazy fuck. He's taking a 4-5 day weekend I guess.
Too afraid to talk about Russia and Ukraine.
Too afraid to talk about France.
What a washup he is. Just keep talking about hot topic troon issues Tim and ignoring actual important news.

This is your life now Tim. This is the great media presence you have established yourself as. Same shit as with Vice but now your master is youtube. Despite all your huffing and puffing and shirt tugging you fall in line.

WelperHelper99 said:
Socialized medicine is the peak of stupidity. Sure I pay for my own insurance, but I get my meds quick and seen quickly as well; I'm not dying on a wait list.

Also agree on importing other countries medicine if their standards are high. If it's good its good. You're creating artificial scarcity otherwise
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I've had godawful wait times with an insurance providers, but I will say. Out of pocket is so fast.
I walked into an office the next day paid out of pocket and got the medicine and treatment I needed before the week was over.

My insurance wanted me to wait 4 months to see an asshole just to see if I should get tested for what I thought I had.
Granted, this was during COOF COOF times - so everything was fucked up. But man I can't believe how quick out of pocket was. It was worth it too, because it saved me months of being in misery and honestly? The price wasn't that bad when you factor in time.
 
Since Tim is taking a "well-earned" break from making videos, I am taking one from clipping said videos.

Blacklight said:
The sheer overregulation of everything in the US is retarded. Last year when the baby formula shortage was a thing, we had countries willing to offer to sell their stuff to us. The reason they couldn't at first? A stupid ass regulation from the FDA saying that the ingredient list wasn't in the proper order. Not that the stuff inside was bad, but the way they listed it on the side of the fucking packaging wasn't up to snuff.
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The biggest joke about why there was a shortage from the off was the U.S. Food & Drug Administration closed down one of the major producers of baby formula, Abbott Pharmaceuticals, due to the presence of a bacteria deadly to young children on-site. The FDA asked/pressured Abbott to close the plant, & complete cleaning & verification. This is all well & good, as no one wants to be remembered as the bloke that said "Keep the machines rolling, no matter how many infant corpses pile up!" Unfortunately, while Abbott did agree to the terms which were not a specific closure order, the FDA failed to account for the outsized control Abbott had on the baby formula market & seemingly never stayed on top of when to end the warning over Abbott's potentially contaminated formula.

& Abbott is no saint, in this either. Via the low bids it could make for the Women, Infants, & Children (WIC) program, which provides formula to low-income pregnant women & new mothers, Abbott had gained a near monopoly over the American baby formula market (Article Archive). This federal program, via the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), provides to almost half of America's pregnant women & newborns, & Abbott took advantage of that.

Once the shortage became a reality, both the FDA & Abbott began lobbing allegations at one another (Archive Article) over whom was to blame. In reality it was both, the FDA failed to account for potential shortages, & Abbott for gaming the system to monopolise it.

TrainWreckWatcher said:
Too afraid to talk about Russia and Ukraine.
Too afraid to talk about France.
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I am rather glad he has not taken up talking about Ukraine, or France, considering his woefully limited foreign policy knowledge...I can only endure so many uninformed takes.

TrainWreckWatcher said:
I've had godawful wait times with an insurance providers, but I will say. Out of pocket is so fast.
I walked into an office the next day paid out of pocket and got the medicine and treatment I needed before the week was over.

My insurance wanted me to wait 4 months to see an asshole just to see if I should get tested for what I thought I had.
Granted, this was during COOF COOF times - so everything was fucked up. But man I can't believe how quick out of pocket was. It was worth it too, because it saved me months of being in misery and honestly? The price wasn't that bad when you factor in time.
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This is one of the big drawbacks of the American insurance system, it is requires patients to have what the insurer considers "absolute" proof of a condition before directing someone to specialist treatment, unless it is an immediate & life-threatening emergency. After that, it shall grant approval for coverage. A long list of prerequisites & verification must be completed, even if your primary care doctor wants you to go for a specific treatment plan.

While this does prevent overburdening a potentially limited pool of specialised care givers filtering through cases sent their way by every Tom, Dick, & Hypochondriac, it is more to prevent the insurance paying out more than it absolutely has to, in the circumstance.

Here is a visualisation, to help:
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JamesWebbSlinger said:
no one wants to be remembered as the bloke that said "Keep the machines rolling, no matter how many infant corpses pile up!"
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Planned Parenthood disagrees with that assertion.

Also, isn't baby formula as an industry a bit shitty? From what I heard Nestle and others would give out free samples of formula to new mothers who could easily breast feed that would last just long enough so that their bodies would stop producing the necessary amounts of milk making them dependent on formula?
 
TrainWreckWatcher said:
What a lazy fuck. He's taking a 4-5 day weekend I guess.
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He's taking the July 4th holiday off as a long weekend. I can't really call him lazy for that.

JamesWebbSlinger said:
This is one of the big drawbacks of the American insurance system, it is requires patients to have what the insurer considers "absolute" proof of a condition before directing someone to specialist treatment, unless it is an immediate & life-threatening emergency. After that, it shall grant approval for coverage. A long list of prerequisites & verification must be completed, even if your primary care doctor wants you to go for a specific treatment plan.

While this does prevent overburdening a potentially limited pool of specialised care givers filtering through cases sent their way by every Tom, Dick, & Hypochondriac, it is more to prevent the insurance paying out more than it absolutely has to, in the circumstance.

Here is a visualisation, to help:
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Our healthcare industry is an absolute mess because of how the insurance providers, big pharma, and hospital corporations have effectively taken over the system. Obamacare was effectively a gift to the insurance industry with the individual mandate that forced everyone to buy health insurance. It could be massively improved by forcing insurance companies to compete nationally instead of state-by-state, and allowing people to buy medicine, etc from foreign countries. Of course, our politicians are owned by the corporations, so I don't expect much.
 
Blacklight said:
The sheer overregulation of everything in the US is retarded. Last year when the baby formula shortage was a thing, we had countries willing to offer to sell their stuff to us. The reason they couldn't at first? A stupid ass regulation from the FDA saying that the ingredient list wasn't in the proper order. Not that the stuff inside was bad, but the way they listed it on the side of the fucking packaging wasn't up to snuff.
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The purpose of a lot of regulations these days are to establish and enforce monopolies or oligopolies. Which is precisely what happened. Lots of lobbying went into that regulation and they’re not about to start breaking precedent now.
 

Tim continues his weird trend of gay-bashing during Bud Light videos.

"No one wants to buy it, you'll be made fun of!"
"I'll keep it family friendly but Bud Light is being portrayed as the LGBT friendly beer and they put out videos of men 'grunting'."
"Grunting is not typically associated with a man sitting down drinking a beer, it's associated with...well I'll keep it family friendly."

It's not like I'm offended or anything but it's very weird how Dylan Mulvaney has just flipped some kind of switch in this man where he is desperate to mock and belittle gay men specifically for being gay all the time now.
 
Don't Tread on Me said:
It's not like I'm offended or anything but it's very weird how Dylan Mulvaney has just flipped some kind of switch in this man where he is desperate to mock and belittle gay men specifically for being gay all the time now.
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The common man has for years been oppressed by perceived social norms, in this case the ability to call someone acting like a faggot a faggot. We can get it out of our system by calling Dylan what he is, but Tim can't because he'll lose his revenue source so he's forced to forever circle the topic without a sense of completion. Many sad, very cases.
 
Catgirl Tyranid said:
The common man has for years been oppressed by perceived social norms, in this case the ability to call someone acting like a faggot a faggot. We can get it out of our system by calling Dylan what he is, but Tim can't because he'll lose his revenue source so he's forced to forever circle the topic without a sense of completion. Many sad, very cases.
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It is a bit like a recent happening on Twitter. Sam Kuffel, a TV weather girl from Milwaukee, stated that one of the best things about visiting Japan was that she felt safe walking anywhere, alone, as a woman. When people began to ask the obvious question "Why do you feel safe there?" She declared them racist & said it is just "well-known" that Japan is safe. Ultimately, she deleted the tweets.

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Now, you, I, & maybe even she really knows what may make Japan safer. But to say so, publicly, would entail some serious backlash. & in order to retain your "good ones" status, you just need to keep your head down, mouth shut, & not say anything outside the acceptable discourse of this day & age. The old "Is it worth losing your job over this?" that many liberals have to go through. Tim is still somewhat stuck in this mindset, whether he realises it, or not.
 
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