Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

It was fun catching up on Tim but I see no reason for his thread to be in this subforum.
I agree. Tim's connection to Rekieta is tenuous, but there is some cross polination in the form of Tim actively sponsoring Coomalot to lose races and wreck cars.

Tim should give Ian his own show.
If Tim set Ian up with a couple faux leather chairs, his crystal ball, a bubble pipe, and a luxurious red robe then just sat various low and mid-tier guests next to him in front of a camera as a pre-show on a semi-regular basis he could create some of the best awkward comedy in politics. Just instruct Ian to ramp his natural weirdness up to eleven and specifically not discuss anything that's going to be talked about on IRL that evening.

"So..." Ian recrosses his legs twice while adding bubbles to his bubble pipe. The mid-tier guest is visibly uncomfortable. "What is the Jewish question anyways? No one will tell me."
 
Childless Tim once again butting into matters that do not pertain to him.
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Doubly so considering his allegedly contentious relationship with his own father:

After looking at the comments, I was directed to an episode, featuring Dennis Prager, which shows the distant relations between Tim & his parents. Dennis asks Tim "What do your parents think" of their son being on a billboard in Times Square. Tim says "I guess they're happy?". Dennis seems confused, & asks "You're not sure?" After a bit of hemming & hawing from Tim, Dennis follows up to ask if Tim's parent's "views" align with their son's. Tim responds with an "I don't know", but he did send his mother a photo of one of the billboards he posted in Times Square, but no mention of sending one to his father:




If Tim set Ian up with a couple faux leather chairs, his crystal ball, a bubble pipe, and a luxurious red robe then just sat various low and mid-tier guests next to him in front of a camera as a pre-show on a semi-regular basis he could create some of the best awkward comedy in politics. Just instruct Ian to ramp his natural weirdness up to eleven and specifically not discuss anything that's going to be talked about on IRL that evening.

"So..." Ian recrosses his legs twice while adding bubbles to his bubble pipe. The mid-tier guest is visibly uncomfortable. "What is the Jewish question anyways? No one will tell me."
I would expect Ian to be fine with that. It would be just like the episode with Max Blumenthal, where he trashed Max's father, Sidney, as a war profiteer, right to his son's face. & when informed of their familial connection, Ian says he was unaware & just bluntly asked Max what was going on with his father to make him do that.




Tim had Chris Rose, the winner of a state senatorial election in West Virginia, & Aidan Mattis, host of The Lore Lodge YouTube account, as the guests.
Hannah was the sole co-host.

*Aidan was on The Inverted World, discussing aliens, which leads to the topic coming up in this episode. There is discussion about why West Virginia has so many cryptids, the combination of Indian & Scotch-Irish traditional stories creating some of them, etc. But Tim has to curtail this to move to another news segment: 23:54-28:46

*Tim & Hannah argue for why Aidan should vote for Donald Trump, after he says he was previously going to make a protest vote for the Constitution Party: 1:30:45-1:40:08

Clip Collection:
-I thought we would get a Tim-free episode, thanks to technical issue, but sadly, Serge fixed it:


-Tim comes out pro-drafting women, as it is their "responsibility" for being given the right to vote:


-Aidan brings up how Generation Z & Millennials are "hilariously out of shape" should a draft come. Tim says "that doesn't matter", citing how the well-trained samurai were defeated by conscripts armed with modern rifles:


Tim seems to have imbibed The Last Samurai as if it were a historical documentary. Most samurai, after the Sengoku period, had transitioned from warriors into administrators for the new Tokugawa Shogunate & Japan, as a whole, had not engaged in a major conflict for over 260 years prior to the end of the Shogunate, with the Boshin War of 1868. The reason the samurai remained relevant as a social class was not out of their military importance, so much as an attempt by the Tokugawa Shogunate to freeze society within a caste system, in the name of stability. Combine this with onerous expectations upon Daimyo & their retainers to maintain residences in Edo (modern Tokyo), as part of a scheme to prevent revolts, pushed a good many into penury. Still possessing ownership of vast swathes of land, yet reliant upon loans from the much lower ranking merchant class & facing a shift towards urbanisation away from rural farming as the driver of the economy, the state of the samurai was far more nuanced than normally understood. While there were still those that matched the stereotype of the stoic warrior, such as Saigo Takamori whose Satsuma Rebellion of 1877 loosely inspired the plot for the aforementioned Tom Cruise film, samurai had lost much of their edge in combat skills. Even the ostensibly more traditionalist forces were not so hide-bound to using sword & bow to the exclusion of modern artillery or firearms. The first act of rebellion by Takamori's forces was seizing modern weapons from government arsenals. Visually, it does make for an excellent juxtaposition of tradition facing off with modernity, but the samurai were not an entire caste of sword-swinging, armour-clad noble warriors that spent a lifetime mastering the blade, by the time of the 1870's. While there is some truth to the depictions shown in Hollywood, it is far more nuanced, with even some samurai foregoing their titles in order to participate in the modernised government established during the Meiji Restoration.

-Chris gets a chance to talk about one of the big projects he was involved in, trying to help people that lost money due to the actions of Financial Industry Regulatory Authority halting trade of MMTLP stock (a meme stock that was being shorted) the day before it was spun off into a private entity. Naturally, Tim gave no time for Chris to discuss this during the show, because talking over the day's news stories is all he allows:
 
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It was fun catching up on Tim but I see no reason for his thread to be in this subforum. Tim should give Ian his own show.
Counterpoint: Tim is bald and this is a fitting sub forum for him. Ian having a show would probably out do Tim's and Tim can't have that, but it would be a lot more bearable to watch.
 
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on 18 June, Tim had Kingsley Wilson, as the guest, once more.
Hannah & Ian were the co-hosts.

*The panel discusses the benefits of Donald Trump's election which is, according to Tim, "a real president". This leads into discussing issues with the United States being overly democratised & ways to address it: 1:25:52-1:31:57

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-Ian may be imbibing too much antizionism from leftist sources, & started hearing the argument of how American colonists illegally immigrated, too, as he leans towards more sympathy for illegal aliens. Tim does himself no favours by comparing illegal aliens to a worker who is also a "heroin addict" & removing them is akin to making them go through rehab, rather than working until they die of an overdose. Ian retorts that "ripping them out of their homes, all at once", could cause damage to wider society. Tim says no one is arguing for all illegals to be removed, all at once, & shifts to replace heroin in his argument with alcoholism, which still leaves the illegal alien as the one being harmed, not wider society.

The more apt comparison would be continuing to employ a kleptomaniac that nicks things from his fellow employees or worksite, but is willing to work more hours in exchange for less pay. This affects fellow employees & the business overall, but management chooses to keep this person on, as it benefits them. In short, Ian is misguided in his kindness, & Tim is terrible at argumentation, but what else is new:


-Tim asks if the panel would pardon their son, if they were convicted of the same crimes as Hunter Biden. Everyone else says they would not, but Tim says he would. Though later goes on to specify it would be for the gun charges, after some requests for clarification:


-Ian talks about "corruptive power" of fame/wealth, as this results in them becoming detached from reality & "the common man". Apropos of nothing, Tim has been living in his compound, in the middle of the woods, funded by super-chats, for how long?:


-Ian wonders if the Secret Service contemplated "fragging" Joe Biden's dog, Commander, after it had gone on its biting spree, as was done to un-liked commanders in the Vietnam War. Also, Ian offends all the Pit Mommies in the audience by saying you must treat dogs as "deadly weapons" "if they can kill":


-Tim is not swayed by a sob story of someone talking about their DACA recipient relative being a good person. Tim argues for charging the parents of DACA recipients with human trafficking over bringing children into the nation:





On 19 June, Tim had Libertarian Party Chairman Angela McArdle, & comedian Dave Smith, as the guests.
Hannah was the sole co-host, as Ian was banished for his toxic compassion.

Hannah did not get much time to speak, but Dave more than made up for it to keep Tim from completely dominating the air time.

*Tim brings up opposition to the placement of a Pride street mural in Huntington, WV, which leads to a discussion of how voluntary taking taxes to do things you disagree with actually is. This morphs into how the expanded franchise leads to expanded government, etc.: 1:03:11-1:25:53

Clip Collection:
-Tim seems to think that "regular people" go onto betting websites, wagering money on their favoured presidential candidates:


-Tim asks Dave whether he is voting for Chase Oliver or Donald Trump. Dave is uncertain either can earn his vote. This leads into Angela, Dave, & Tim discuss the benefits of Joe Biden's ongoing failures, as it offers a chance to further cohere the opposition into action, & "acceleration":


-Considering his previous anger at the Libertarian Party's Ross Ulbricht fixation, I was surprised Tim gave Angela no flack for bringing up the man without appending how he supposedly hired a contract killer, or elevating a very flawed person into unwarranted importance:


-Tim asks Angela & Dave their opinion on vaccine mandates, imposed by private businesses. Dave explains that, in the context of the COVID-19 vaccine, it must be understood as part of a "giant statist operation", which made maximum public pressure for people to comply. Tim disagrees, as he pins the "falling in line", as part of having a culture which lacks cohesion, but loses his train of thought towards the tail end:


-Tim compares some members of the Libertarian Party's dogged dedication to holding to ideals, such as open borders, is akin to those held by communists. Angela agrees, while Dave nuances it to say that holding to ideals, as a way to extract concessions, is good, but the completely open borders arguments of some libertarians is "antithetical to freedom":


-Angela decides the end of the episode is the time to bring up how the FBI claimed to have evidence of the Libertarian Party's Facebook page being "compromised by a hostile foreign government", as a sign that censorship is beginning to make a return on social media. Angela had posted about this in April, but Tim was taken aback at never having heard of this, before now. Angela claims the FBI did not disclose any information to her, as it was an ongoing investigation & Facebook directed her to contact the FBI for more information. The page has not been shut down, but logs of who accessed the it have been wiped from the records:


-Tim defends his "landslide victory" predictions from 2020. Tim claims he was "completely correct in his analysis", that the 49-state landslide was "a meme", & blames "the Democrat's shadow campaign, which I could not have predicted" for being wrong. Tim could just say he was wrong, but no, he needs to add this caveat that he was right, but for etc. etc.:
 
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Tonight's episode was the best episode ever, we finally got the Hannahcast since Tim was out getting a hair transplant, probably as a follow-up to the bottom surgery when Seamus hosted.


More seriously, Hannah did get the chance to host, since Tim is out. She was accompanied by Ian and Phil. Guest was George Papadopoulos.
The show started off with audio issues, but got underway pretty quickly. It genuinely was one of the best episodes, because Tim wasn't there to be annoying. That said, Phil did go on and on a few times.

I think Seamus is actually a slightly better host, he seems more on top of things, and I think it's because he might just be a better speaker. Hannah stumbled a little when introducing topics, I think she just isn't used to hosting.

Still, just like Seamus, she did a much better job letting the conversation feel organic, and making topic changes not feel too forced. Like Seamus, Hannah actually acts like part of the conversation, and actually seems to be enjoying it, and when she changes the topic, she also does it in a very likeable way like Seamus did, compared to Tim's "let's just get on with it" tone that he always uses when cutting off conversations.

All in all, a much better episode than usual. Hannah's positive energy really did echo Seamus, which made for a much more enjoyable and fun episode to watch.

Comments seem to agree with me, most of them liked Hannah a lot. Some of my favorites:
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We may have to add brushing his teeth to the list of things Tim does not do, as he is out of commission due to root canal-related troubles:
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Hannah stumbled a little when introducing topics, I think she just isn't used to hosting.
I do agree that Hannah was a bit stilted reading the news stories & super-chats from the screen, but seemed smoother doing the discussions with the panelists. I think this shows the issue with having to launch a topic off from reading a news story, rather than just organically let topics sprout from a guest's field of expertise, or experiences. Overall, a very genial experience which produced no teeth grinding from Tim's tomfoolery, from his absences due to an abscess.
 
LOL THEY HAVE RICHARD SPENCER ON THE CULTURE WAR TODAY

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The first 1/3 to 1/2 there was a lot of discussion between Andrew and Richard, the back half to 1/3 Tim some how made Richard Spencer seem like the normal (most level headed) person in the room.
 
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While I have skipped over The Culture War clippings, I decided to check this one out, after @Prj4MW8iPT3vmFM2rzDc posted about it. It featured The Octoroon Antagoniser, himself, Richard Spencer, debating with Andrew Wilson, of The Crucible YouTube channel.

I seem to be having trouble getting a version better than 360p, for the clips. Though this is appropriate for the "quality" of this discussion. Richard purchased a thesaurus, before the show, & makes the longest statements without saying anything of substance. Andrew has a hat, which could double as a beanie, as he has a bull-rush debating tactic, overrunning Richard mid-statement. This is to be expected, though, as Adam himself described his channel as hosting "blood sports" debates. Tim could not help, but inject himself into the debate, as expected. Two-thirds of the way through, it becomes Tim defending his predictive abilities over civil war against Andrew's criticism, as Richard becomes as much a bystander as Phil was.

*Tim usurps, fully, the role of debating Andrew over the Beanie Boy's predictions of an upcoming civil war: 2:06:22-the end of the show

-The debate starts with Richard arguing Joe Biden is a conservative, due to twisting "conservative" into its more academic/analytical meaning. This being a "conservative" preserving the Neo-conservative/Neo-liberal order:


-No one corrected Tim on who pushed for the Bill of Rights to be created:


-Tim is really growing dependent upon searching for information via Chat GPT:


-Tim argues for an American version of the Stakhanovite Movement to motivate greater achievements, & recognition, for blue-collar workers:


-Andrew mentions that conservatives are not following through with their accusations of treason by executing those they label as such. A similar statement by Laura Loomer led to the show being cut, but not in this case. It could be due to Andrew not actively calling for such punishment to be meted out:


-Tim treats his guests so well, he offers only the finest of talking down to's. Andrew is so ungrateful for not just sitting there & taking it. The nerve of him to deny Tim's brilliant analysis. In all seriousness, it was funny having Richard, of all people, step in to try & defuse the situation:


Bonus Bits:
-Groypers: Beanie, may we have Nick Fuentes?
Beanie: No, we have Nick Fuentes on the show.
*The Nick Fuentes on the show*
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Tim had Rachel Holt, a singer who is publishing a song on Baste Records, & Chris Wallen, the song's writer, as the guests.
Carter, Hannah, & Libby were the co-hosts.

A portion of this episode was Tim returning periodically to masticate over how Andrew, without mentioning his name, could not see just how wrong he was.
Due to dragging myself through The Culture War, my eyes began to glaze over with the IRL episode, & found nothing of great import to clip.
The only exception was Tim finally fulfilling his previous promise to have more musically-aligned guests on Fridays, so they can perform at the end of the episode.

*Chris & Rachel perform, & Tim & Carter join in with their own musical performances: 1:31:18-1:56:35

Clip Collection:
-Here is an example of Tim still sore over Andrew not accepting Tim's analysis:


-I joked about Richard Spencer being a dime-store Nick Fuentes, & Tim brings up the spate between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & the Cum Hunter, on IRL. Tim does say calling Nick a "Neo-Nazi" is unfair, as he is "an America First, Anti-Israel personality...just call him what he is":
 
-Tim treats his guests so well, he offers only the finest of talking down to's. Andrew is so ungrateful for not just sitting there & taking it. The nerve of him to deny Tim's brilliant analysis. In all seriousness, it was funny having Richard, of all people, step in to try & defuse the situation:
I have to say it was fun to see Wilson get pushed back on, he's as big an asshole as Tim Pool. It was also great to see Richard come across sane, it's been awhile since i've seen that.
 
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I must be having a severe retard moment, because I've been reading this line over and over and I can't make sense of it. Can someone make it make sense? Is there a joke I'm not getting?
I don't think it's meant to be funny, but it's deliberately obtuse as a means to farm engagement. He'll probably brag about this post in one of his videos if he hasn't already.

His point is that weak men are defending birth control because it lowers women's standards for sex. If a woman is at risk of getting pregnant, they're more likely to refuse sex unless it's a partner they can see themselves raising a child with.

Actually women's hormones go crazy on birth control and they end up going for guys who are much more effeminate. A lot of divorces happen when women get off birth control after getting married and find themselves no longer attracted. You can ask women who have been both on and off birth control for extended periods of time.

With this said, I really don't see anyone suddenly going for tim pool after getting off birth control
 
I have to say it was fun to see Wilson get pushed back on, he's as big an asshole as Tim Pool. It was also great to see Richard come across sane, it's been awhile since i've seen that.
Wilson is only good when he's shitting on whores on the Whatever show. Also I find it funny I've never seen anyone joke about how he has the same name as the CEO of EA.
 

Tim had Mary Margaret Olohan, a reporter for The Daily Signal, as the guest.
Hannah & Phil were the co-hosts.

Clip Collection:
-Tim received a call from YouTube, regarding livestreaming the CNN Debate on 27 June, & was directed to speak with CNN about it. Apparently, CNN is not permitting re-streaming of the debate, to which Tim says they shall be offering live commentary of it, so it is "fair use". Could we be so lucky that CNN will actually DMCA strike Tim's channel, & finally strip the beanie off of YouTube? We shall see:


-Mary is ready to dive straight into a conversation, but runs headlong into Tim insisting upon introductions, first:


-Tim expresses disbelief that "J.D. Vance...Marjorie Taylor Greene" & other politicians would deign to go on CNN, instead of Tim's show, which he assures us has a larger audience:


-Phil comments upon the lack of care for human life held by communist regimes, citing the human wave tactics of the Soviet Union & Communist China during the Second World War & Korean conflict, respectively:


Unfortunately, like Tim, Phil seems to source his understanding of history from films. This time, relying upon Hollywood depicitions of the Eastern Front & Soviet tactics to bolster his points. The source for many of these myths stem from a reliance upon German sources, which the West had easy access to, & the Iron Curtain precluding non-propagandistic Soviet sources from being available for nearly fifty years after the war. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, & the opening of state archives, a more balanced view on the Red Army's performance has emerged, to rebut the claims made by former Wehrmact officers of how their superior force was merely swamped in conscript corpses. While there is validity to the Red Army as a chaotic rabble in the immediate aftermath of Operation Barbarossa's start, as well as callous usage of counter-attacks to disperse German efforts across a broad front to stem the drive towards Leningrand & Moscow, by December 1941, General Georgi Zhukov ordered for an end to the kind of frontal assaults ubiquitous in films about the Eastern Front. A similar argument is made for the People's Volunteer Army in Korea being one of manpower swamping the superior U.N. forces, as they neared the Yalu River. The reality was the PVA took advantage of road-bound, over-extended U.N. troops via light infantry nighttime infiltration tactics to isolate their foes in the narrow valleys of northern Korea. This left isolated U.N. forces with two options; retreat into the PVA's prepared ambush positions, or hold out by using the U.S. Air Force to pummel Chinese units, to which the latter could not combat. I am all for bashing communists, but at least do so in an accurate manner, rather than pushing tired myths.

-Speaking of the Eastern Front, Phil decides to drop the phrase "Gas the Jews", when referencing leftist protests against Israel & how the mainstream media runs defense & excuses the excesses of the likes of "Antifa" & pro-Palestine protestors:


-Tim discusses his plans with simulcasting the Presidential Debate on Rumble, & "X". Tim argues that it is "annoying" to launch "threeway simulcast". If forced to choose, he leans towards "X", as he has more followers & more opportunities for "virality" on that platform:


-Tim complains about how "leftists" clip him out of context, & make it seem like all he does is talk about civil war. He mentions how Richard Spencer had a very different idea of who Tim was, due to these clips:


-Tim, later in the super-chats, complains that viewer counts do not accurately capture how many people are listening to an episode. Tim claims that "two or three", then elevates this to "five to ten" people may be watching one screen:


-Tim says that they have "resolved" several lawsuits against them, which may include the one by Mauricio Garcia against the Timcast organisation, as well as several other media outlets over incorrectly naming him as the mass shooter in the Allen, Texas, killing spree. Tim uses this spectre of further suits to call for more people to sign up as paying members. I did a cursory search & did not see any news stories on a settlement agreements being announced:
 
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Wait, so news organizations unironically pulled a "sam hyde is the shooter" moment for the timcast crew and were too stubborn to retract? I would imagine that would be easy money for the timcast crew. I wonder how much money they would be making from those lawsuits.
 

Tim had Amy Kremer, a political activist involved with the Tea Party movement & currently working within the MAGA movement.
Hannah & Phil were the co-hosts.

Clip Collection:
-Hannah jokes about the show going on tour alongside Phil's band, to which Phil says he shall get Hannah a trailer of her own, but only for her:


-Hannah asks Amy about her opinion on Donald Trump's endorsement history, which elicits a bit of hesitance. But ultimately Amy says for people to do their own research on candidates., not just depend upon endorsements to know who to vote for:


-Phil is such a libertarian that he praises the international sea ways protected by forward-deployed U.S. Navy assets & its global military footprint protecting trade as an undeniable good. Which was funny, as previously, Phil said the United States did not need bases all around the world:


-Tim loves to argue how other people are spineless, or not truly standing up to opposition. Again, Tim critiques Trump for going to New York to participate in the trials:


-Tim says the only way you shall get another host on shall be if he is "dying", or falls ill:


-Tim spends three-&-a-half minutes explaining why he did not lead off with the news of Julian Assange being freed in the previous episode. Tim claims it is "too esoteric" of a topic, & would not be understood by the wider audience. He wraps up his argument by comparing this to Casey Neistat using clickbait thumbnails & titles as a marketing tactic:
 
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