Tim had Elijah Schaffer, & Sarah Stock, his employee/Lauren Southern clone, as the guests.
Mary & Phil were the co-hosts.
The eternally brave Tim, standing up for free speech, simply has to preserve his YouTube ad money by saying "unalived" instead of committed suicide:
& in the tradition of taking embarrassing photographs when Elijah shows up, Phil, Sarah, & Tim decided to pose with some of the beanie boy's weapons:
The other tradition being clip-heavy posts, when he appears.
Clip Collection:
-Tim continues to have faith in Dan Bongino & Kashyap Patel, despite the lack of high-profile arrests. He compares it to the absence of any action by the last Attorney General in Donald Trump's first term, William Barr:
-Elijah takes the opposite stance, & derides the lack of "extreme" action against people committing treason, opposing Trump. Tim has to "Erm Acktually..." that what Elijah means is sedition, not treason, because it is more legally correct. Despite treason by a colloquial term that covers both. Elijah accepts this, & says that having such people "executed, live, on TV" would be a deterrent to such actions. Tim argues that would only make them martyrs, & death is no worry for "nihilists". The beanie boy proposes jailing them, because that removes the ne'er-do-wells from society. But leaves them open for having their
sentences commuted, no one mentions. Tim tries to argue that the "deep state" does not assassinate people, anymore, but does character assassinations, instead,
citing what happened with Julian Assange. Sarah asks who else this is happening to, & appends that Andrew Tate suffered the same as Julian. The beanie boy states that the Tates said things, on camera, about pedalling women for sex, not had lies made up. Elijah tries to argue that young men, in Britain, as an example, were flocking to the Tates' message, so it is believable that they would attempt character assassination. But Elijah forgets that
Britain is not what it once was, even a generation ago,
particularly with its youth. & the Tates' appeal tends to be with the swarthy & negroid sort. Sarah mentions Andrew Tate faced similar accusations of rape as Donald Trump, but Tim rejects this comparison:
-This is going to be a long one....The beanie boy outdoes himself coming off as unsympathetic as
the stereotypical boomer harridan. Tim argues that pushing people to have children will not resolve the immediate issues facing the United States. In the short term, the nation becomes "a slum" by either importing millions of low-skill labourers to do work, or factories remain overseas, cutting off jobs. But Tim has faith Donald Trump's tariffs could help prevent that. Elijah argues that politicians across the West are "importing the third world", with Tim chiming in to say Trump is not doing that. Sarah reminds Tim that Trump backed H-1B visas, which overly imports Indians. Tim responds that there is a difference between H-1B visas, & "opening the doors to 20 million illegal immigrants, in four years". The beanie boy does acknowledge that the programme does bring in people for menial jobs, like cashiers, but Sarah interjects that H-1B immigrants take higher skill jobs from Americans, as well. Tim brings up the comments by
Elon Musk & Vivek Ramaswamy about the poor quality of American workers, which he agrees with, but says you still need to invest in the nation's youth to improve their status. Tim calls many Millennials & Generation Z "lazy, entitled losers" that refuse to improve their lot. Sarah & Elijah reject this framing, claiming that the system, as it exists, is set up against the youth getting ahead, such as competing for jobs with the whole planet. Tim takes this as Sarah arguing for young people not having to work, & the beanie boy says they should just take the job, even if it is not enough to afford a home. Mary asks what is the answer to a declining standard of living, to which Tim responds that housing prices are not affected by one issue. But he admits immigration does drive up costs. Then, Tim argues that wages rise because corporations compete over workers, to which Sarah, again, returns to the H-1B visa issue feeding more labour to employers to depress pay:
Tim claims that he supports "a functional immigration system" that "brain drain(s) other countries". Sarah makes clear that H-1Bs are not that, to which Tim says they agree, but still insists on bringing people in. Elijah regards this as a "post 1960s" take on immigration, & falls in with the idea of replacing a "lazy" native populace with foreign workers. Tim interjects that no one is arguing that, despite agreeing with Elon & Vivek's claims, earlier. & Sarah states that. Tim becomes more heated, claiming that anyone not saying Generation Z are, for the most part, lazy, is "pandering to the Gen Z audience". Elijah contends that the generation is disillusioned over
cost-of-living increases, & not helped by people, like Tim, calling that being lazy. Tim claims he never said any of that, & not being able to afford to start a family, over the rising cost, is "excuses". Tim decides to compare the current situation to the "Founding Fathers", but uses the initial settlers at Plymouth & Jamestown as his example, rather than the established colonies they lived in. Tim, then, reiterates that "a large portion of Gen Z & Millennials...literally don't want to do any job". Tim decides the bring up "femcels", for some reason, as well, which Sarah is befuddled by:
Sarah asks what he means by femcels, which Tim regards as women "locking themselves in their rooms, not going out, not doing anything". Tim does return to claim that most of Generation Z is mooching off of their parents, & not "owed a house". Tim beings hectoring Sarah about what these young people should be doing. Sarah argues that competing against immigrant labour, from India, was never something prior generations had to deal with, & is surprised Tim supports it. Tim angrily interrupts to say she is conflating the current, broken immigration system, with his ideal system that should exist. Mary tries to explain that O-1 visas are for the exceptional cases, but Tim disagrees. But in explaining, he basically concedes to Mary's point, but does not admit it. Elijah asks why Tim would want to import people that do not share Western values, simply because they can fill a supposedly empty job. Tim takes offense, shouting "Who said that?!?", to which Elijah explains that most of the immigrants coming lack a shared culture with the West. Tim begins stammering, asking if his guests want a full stop on immigration, which both Sarah & Elijah agree. This leads Elijah into pinning the decline in family generation to feminism & cost-of-living, but he derides the Trump administration focusing upon antisemitism. Tim asks what solutions Elijah has, but keeps interrupting him to state that none of these are what a singular Generation Z youth can do to fix things. Elijah states that both he & Tim are lucky to have careers which make so much, which only serves to upset Tim more:
Tim says no "20 year old Gen Z" is going to Washington "to bang a gavel" & change the system. Tim becomes more heated, demanding Elijah explain what he would say to a Millennial that cannot afford a house. When Elijah asks why reforming the system is not considering "functional", Tim keeps pushing for what an individual can do to afford a house, right now. Sarah chimes in to say Tim's argument of pull yourself up by the bootstraps is "so boomer-coded". Tim rounds on Elijah for saying he chose a job that makes a lot of money, regaling us with how he was homeless & busking for "$7 an hour". Elijah responds that this sort of content creator career Tim has now, is limited & most people are just looking to work a normal job. Tim snarls that he worked at ABC News, before this, & demands Elijah explain his own job history, which he does. Elijah recommends people become entrepreneurs, as an alternative to that 9-5 life. When Sarah highlights that if people took Tim's advice, & accepted a job at lower pay, it would still not lead to getting a home, as their pay is not enough. Tim retorts that this sounds like Democrat liberal talk:
Elijah compares the economic outlook in his grandfather's life to the current economy, which has become much bleaker for the average American. Tim keeps asking what an individual can do, in these circumstances, to get ahead, not a systemic answer. Soon after, Tim asks Elijah whether NEETs can be considered lazy. Elijah regards this more as due to apathy with a system pitted against the average person, not laziness. He begins to list out policies that could make the changes & improve their outlook, but Tim continues to demand immediate answers & accepting poor-paying jobs, as a stopgap, to improve themselves, citing Andrew Tate's advice on taking on challenges:
Elijah argues that despite things being weighed against White men, & men in general, he advises them to get their testosterone checked to see if that may be affecting their hopeless outlooks. Regarding Andrew Tate, he does express distaste at how they made his money, via swindling men out of money, via cam girls. Tim clarifies that Andrew was also talking with men, pretending to be a cam girl, as well. Tim, now, concedes there are systemic issue, & argues that the people he was talking about were specifically the leftist Millennial & Generation Z youth:
-Elijah brings up the recent decline in Western nations, such as Canada, amidst an increasing surge of third-world immigrants. Tim says he does not care, as long as this happens outside of the United States. The beanie boy tries to claim that whites are responsible for this happening, as they were both the majority population & in power, before mass migration started. Elijah & Sarah both note that, despite polls showing a majority of people want less immigration, it keeps coming, to which Tim argues that non-white nations, like Communist China are not seeing this happen. Because there is such demand to immigrate there, or to other non-Western nations. To the polls question, Tim responds that polls matter little, compared to election results. & if people elect Democrats, & that means more immigration. Elijah & Phil bring up cases of politicians overriding desires to limit immigration, but Tim refuses to accept this. Sarah adds that judges are also obstructing that. Phil asks Tim to clarify what he means, & the beanie boy states that half of the U.S. voted for "open borders":
Sarah & Mary both state that open borders was not a stated position, in 2024, with even
Kamala Harris reeling in her prior statements. Tim refuses to budge, even when Mary brings up the case of someone she knows voting Democrat, that does not agree with all of the party's positions. The beanie boy claims this means he actually supports it, even if he does not like it. That means Tim backs bombing Yemen, because he voted for Trump, despite how much the beanie boy claimed he opposed that, to use his argument to its natural end. In the end, Tim blames White liberals, & their out-group preference, for mass immigration. Sarah notes white guilt plays a large role, & Tim pipes in to say that is pushed by White people, themselves. Some unspoken objections occur to Whites being responsible for it, & Elijah brings up the fact he is anti-Zionist, yet voted for Trump, as a counter to Tim's arguments. Tim continues to draw a distinction between agreeing with a policy, & supporting a policy via voting for politicians. Elijah reiterates that a plethora of polls show majority support for reducing immigration, but Tim adds "Not if Trump is doing it", because Democrats may knee-jerk oppose it:
Elijah says that does not change the poll results, & highlights the lack of response to that popular sentiment from government, across the West. Tim repeats, once more that voting for "things you need", may include things you do not like, stating that Nick Fuentes is correct that voting for Trump is voting for supporting Israel. Elijah uses Israel, as an example of not getting real choices in politics, as both parties support it & do not allow many anti-Zionists to emerge, via the primary system. Tim counters Elijah arguing for intent behind opening the borders for third-world masses to people making mistakes, such as opening trade with Communist China, & not understanding the consequences of it. Tim cuts things off, to move to super-chats:
-But, do not worry, Tim got his 30 pieces of silver, for all his work. The beanie boy promotes his investment in precious metals, via silver coins, thanks to his new sponsor. Seriously, Tim cannot be worse at optics if he tried. He may as well jingle them about in a big bag labeled "shekels":
-A super-chatter jokingly calls Nick Fuentes Israel First, & Elijah asks when they are going to debate, each other. Tim asks what is there to debate, & there is nothing to be gained via debating the Israel-obsessed Cum Hunter. Elijah tries to dispel the notion Nick only talks about the Jewish State, & Tim is a constant defender of it, saying he has seen enough to see both do not deserve their reputations. Sarah brings up the allegations Nick made that Tim is bought & paid for by Israel, citing the meeting he had with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Tim tries to compare a closed-door meeting, with rules to cover whom said what, to Tucker Carlson doing a video interview of Qatar's prime minister, to excuse his attendance. Elijah asks why Netanyahu chose Tim, & he responds that
IRL is the "second biggest podcast" in the nation & Israel wants people to support an attack on Iran. Phil says people claim he does not speak ill of Israel, because he is in the Jew-run music industry. Tim objects to people trying to claim Qatari money, or Israeli money, is why people back one side of that conflict:
Elijah roundaboutly asks if Tim thinks Netanyahu invited him, because he felt the beanie boy could be swayed, & if the meeting included offers of money or influence, if he was. Tim says there was not, & most people at the meeting disagreed with the Israeli PM. The beanie boy says all groups think there are nefarious actors paying people to say things, & calls out "the Israel First people" for implying he does. Tim states how he desires to see all federal funding stripped from Israel, & praise for Dave Smith's non-interventionism, makes him a terrible investment for Israel. Elijah asks if he would still have the same level of influence, access, etc., if he was anti-zionist & more interrogative about Israel. Tim says that is true of any subject. Elijah, then, asks if this would happen if he grilled Qatar that way, & without missing a beat, Tim says "No one cares about Qatar". Elijah asks if that focus on Israel is part of the reason Nick is "so censored...de-banked", to which Tim brings up Hasan being one of the biggest live streamers to counter that:
Tim says coming out strong, on certain topics, would see barred from certain spaces, either way. The beanie boy tries to use an example of a progressive with TDS, like Brian Tyler Cohen, being denied an interview with Trump, to prove his point Going beyond that, Tim claims that the right is far more accepting of differences in opinion than liberals, noting that Tulsi Gabbard, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Trump, & Elon, were all Democrat-leaning until recently. Sarah notes no conservative seems willing to cooperate with Nick, & Tim struggles for a bit, but Phil helps to blame that on the Cum Hunter being "trolly & caustic". Before Sarah can respond, Tim cuts it to move on to the paywalled segment, so we did not get her reply:
