Times when you have felt genuinely sorry for Chris

[kendraObscura]

When he burnt his family home to the ground

 

[Dr. Silvestrechu]

When he burnt his family home to the ground

What's sad about that? Chris finally experienced a moment of sanity and did what needed to be done.

 

[human trash]

chris is an entirely unsympathetic character, at least to me

let's take the bluespike situation for example, since that's one of the situations where people feel the most sympathy for him. i'll get this out of the way early on - bluespike acted like an absolute psychopath and as a result none of the content involving him is actually funny. but he was also no master manipulator. he was 13 and chris willingly handed everything over to him under the presumption that doing so would get him laid.

so let's analyze this situation

why did chris give his passwords to bluespike? for pussy. that's it. that's the only thing he wanted. he didn't do it because he loved 'her' he did it because he wanted to get laid. it's an utterly unsympathetic motivation

why did chris shove medallion pieces up his asshole? because he wanted his playstation 3 account back. it's not like it's his life savings or anything. chris could've said 'fuck you' at any point and walked away but instead he shoved crayola model magic into his rectum. it's hard to feel sympathy for someone too stupid to walk away

it's hard to feel sympathy for someone who lacks self-awareness to the point where they think they're a god. chris has thought he was a god for years - long before the CPU Goddess shit and long before he fucked barb and starting thinking of himself as the second coming. this is why the jesus shit didn't surprise me. he's always been the god of his own little world

regardless, with bluespike, at any point chris could've walked away and disengaged from the whole thing. with that in mind i don't feel sympathy for him. bluespike wasn't in his house twisting his arm behind his back while making him shove his medallion up his ass. it was a mumble call or a skype call or whatever - just hit hang up and walk away, dude. was it abhorrent and wrong? yeah. it was. it's hard to deny that when the trolls who are also in the call are also obviously disgusted with his behavior in that moment

back on passwords -if it was the first time that he'd handed over his passwords to some stranger on the internet then i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say, yeah, someone held him at ransom effectively. but this wasn't the first time that he'd willingly handed his log-in credentials to someone. he'd done it multiple times and been burnt every single time for it. i generally don't feel sympathy for people who are too stupid to learn from their mistakes - especially when it's because of a god complex

people often like to say that his descent into madness was troll-induced but i don't think that's the case. even in a vacuum the guy would've fucked his own mom sooner rather than later. if anything, the trolls distracting him with fake women for over a decade likely belayed it.

chris isn't self-aware - neither of himself, the people around him, or the world in general. he's lived in his own little bubble that he's the lord of since the day he was born. if i feel any sympathy at all for him it's a wish for him to have had different parents - because both bob and barb, in my opinion, are entirely to blame for his state of being

combine the above rant with the fact that he would often goad/egg the trolls on rather than just walking the fuck away i cannot sympathize with him. i sure think that some of the people who have trolled him in the past are more annoying than him, though - for example, fuck kacey

i feel bad for chris during the bluespike calls - like i would with anyone who is clearly in physical pain and distress - but i don't feel sympathy for him.

 

[Ophelia]

Pretty much everything you just said. BlueSpike even gave Chris options of things he could do, and Chris chose the ass.

Except:

even in a vacuum the guy would've fucked his own mom sooner rather than later. if anything, the trolls distracting him with fake women for over a decade likely belayed it.

He fucked Barb once she became too weak to prevent him. If she was 69 and mentally stable in 2021, he wouldn’t have raped her.

 

[King Metalia]

What's sad about that? Chris finally experienced a moment of sanity and did what needed to be done.

If only the fire department had arrived later than they did. Maybe the house could have been rendered unsalvageable and destroyed.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

why did chris give his passwords to bluespike? for pussy. that's it. that's the only thing he wanted. he didn't do it because he loved 'her' he did it because he wanted to get laid. it's an utterly unsympathetic motivation

That's really the thing about Chris - he willingly believed that there were all these young, extremely hot women out there, and they just couldn't wait to get on his bent dick. When faced with more than one girl, Chris would just move onto the next one. "Oh well, she died, good thing there's this new girl!" It always seemed like to me, that he just expected this, despite his years and years of rejections when he'd harass women in real life.

 

[RainwaterDrop]

That's really the thing about Chris - he willingly believed that there were all these young, extremely hot women out there, and they just couldn't wait to get on his bent dick. When faced with more than one girl, Chris would just move onto the next one. "Oh well, she died, good thing there's this new girl!" It always seemed like to me, that he just expected this, despite his years and years of rejections when he'd harass women in real life.

This is one of the things that divide me the most about Chris. Women communicate by subtlety and expect you to take hints and the initiative, this is something that isn't taught to men, but learned on the field. If some neurotypical men have issues understanding and learning to deal with this, it's really hard for a severely autistic, narcissistic and stupid guy like Chris to navigate this landscape. On the other hand, even small children can understand concepts such as respecting others, and he didn't understand this. The worst part being that Chris felt entitled to a hot woman and actually believed that other men stole them from him, he genuinely thought that holding that stupid sign of his was a valid dating technique and not something that would weird out fucking everyone else!

His narcissism was at full display at those moments, it fundamentally crippled his understanding of human relationships and shot down every chance he had of being a nicer, happier person. Courtesy of how he was raised, Bob might have had his happiness in mind when paying his gal pals but it was one of the worst things he did, even if he didn't mean no harm. It really fed into Chris' twisted worldview and enabled him to become the World's village idiot in the hands of dozens for decades!

I feel very divided by this, on one hand he got called out for being pushy and abusive, rightfully so. But then, I factor in his perspective and how much his parents failed in raising him, and I feel sorry for him. And yet, despite multiple opportunities to learn from his mistakes and to listen to people who genuinely wanted him to become a better person, he simply ignored their advice, retreated into his coping mechanism of dwelling in CWCVille, magic crystals and other delusions, and I feel that he did deserve to become Virginia's Jester after refusing to change. It's very complicated!

 

[Open Window Maniac]

This is one of the things that divide me the most about Chris. Women communicate by subtlety and expect you to take hints and the initiative, this is something that isn't taught to men, but learned on the field. If some neurotypical men have issues understanding and learning to deal with this, it's really hard for a severely autistic, narcissistic and stupid guy like Chris to navigate this landscape. On the other hand, even small children can understand concepts such as respecting others, and he didn't understand this. The worst part being that Chris felt entitled to a hot woman and actually believed that other men stole them from him, he genuinely thought that holding that stupid sign of his was a valid dating technique and not something that would weird out fucking everyone else!

His narcissism was at full display at those moments, it fundamentally crippled his understanding of human relationships and shot down every chance he had of being a nicer, happier person. Courtesy of how he was raised, Bob might have had his happiness in mind when paying his gal pals but it was one of the worst things he did, even if he didn't mean no harm. It really fed into Chris' twisted worldview and enabled him to become the World's village idiot in the hands of dozens for decades!

I feel very divided by this, on one hand he got called out for being pushy and abusive, rightfully so. But then, I factor in his perspective and how much his parents failed in raising him, and I feel sorry for him. And yet, despite multiple opportunities to learn from his mistakes and to listen to people who genuinely wanted him to become a better person, he simply ignored their advice, retreated into his coping mechanism of dwelling in CWCVille, magic crystals and other delusions, and I feel that he did deserve to become Virginia's Jester after refusing to change. It's very complicated!

I feel that divide too and it's part of why I find Chris so fascinating to follow. Watching Chris makes you ask how much of what's happened to him happened because he's a bad guy, and how much of it happened because of his upbringing? It makes you feel an internal tug-of-war of whether you should feel sorry for him or just recoil from how wretched he is. He's clearly not a good person and I feel disgusted with him, but then I remember the circumstances of his birth and how his parents raised him so poorly and then I feel sorry for him. Then I remember all the bad stuff he's done, and the cycle begins anew. That constantly alternating ebb and flow of repulsion and compassion I feel towards Chris is unlike anything I've felt about someone, real or fictional. It's a feeling so bizarre and outlandish that only Chris Chan could make you feel that way.

 

[RainbowUnicorn]

I felt sorry for him early on and when Bob died. After that, less so. Before was bad, but I felt Snorlax's influence brought the worst out after Bob's passing. Chris also lost me at using autism as a scapegoat. There are tons of people on the spectrum that are way more grounded in reality than them.

 

[Cosmologic]

i wouldn’t say i feel bad for chris, but following his life until this point has been like watching a long-form true crime documentary unfold. we’ve intimately witnessed every aspect of his life, are able to clearly see how and why he chose this path, and can accurately pinpoint the exact moment that things began to unravel as they have. i think i’ve felt sorry for him in certain moments, like bob’s death or times when he thought he was making a new friend just to be trolled, but those moments are just one in a series of disappointments that are eclipsed by how dire his situation is now.

but the part of chris that makes me feel true sadness and loss and despair? seeing pictures of him as an innocent little boy. a blank expression on his face, not even able to comprehend the magnitude of his future suffering, only concerned with video games and making his parents happy. this little face had so much potential that was torn away from him by idiotic parents and a lack of structural support, and unfortunately there’s no way that his life would have been different unless he had been put in the care of people with genuine investment in his future.

i think that’s the aspect i find the saddest and most heartbreaking. he was doomed from the start, with a family like his, and if he had even a slightly different life with slightly different circumstances i don’t think it would have gotten this bad. but we can only speculate, because the little boy in that image is now an adult man in prison for raping his mother every three days and bragging about it with a circle of people pretending to be his friend for the purpose of ruining his life and getting him to kill himself.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

This is one of the things that divide me the most about Chris. Women communicate by subtlety and expect you to take hints and the initiative, this is something that isn't taught to men, but learned on the field. If some neurotypical men have issues understanding and learning to deal with this, it's really hard for a severely autistic, narcissistic and stupid guy like Chris to navigate this landscape. On the other hand, even small children can understand concepts such as respecting others, and he didn't understand this. The worst part being that Chris felt entitled to a hot woman and actually believed that other men stole them from him, he genuinely thought that holding that stupid sign of his was a valid dating technique and not something that would weird out fucking everyone else!

I think that was partly a side effect of all of his "friends", back when he had friends IRL, being young women. He observed them and how they didn't have to struggle to find a significant other -- people just came to them. If that was your only point of reference for how relationships occurred, it would seem natural to think that they "just happened".

If you look at it from a teenage/twenty-something girl's point of view, chances for relationships really do just happen with relatively little to no effort on your part. Guys come to you and you pick one. Is it such a stretch for Chris to imagine it working that way for him too?

(Note that I mean *chances* for a relationship. Any relationship takes some effort, but just getting people interested in one in the first place doesn't require much effort for a young woman. Chris was stuck at the point at even getting that far, and is also retarded, so navigating a relationship with a flesh and blood person probably wasn't even on his mind.)

 

[SquirtingYawn]

If you look at it from a teenage/twenty-something girl's point of view, chances for relationships really do just happen with relatively little to no effort on your part. Guys come to you and you pick one. Is it such a stretch for Chris to imagine it working that way for him too?

This could be why he became trans. Once Chris started to understand the expectations placed on males in being active in dating and a relationship, and not being a layabout house-husband, he figured he could transform himself into one of his gal pals who things came so easy to.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

This is one of the things that divide me the most about Chris. Women communicate by subtlety and expect you to take hints and the initiative, this is something that isn't taught to men, but learned on the field. If some neurotypical men have issues understanding and learning to deal with this, it's really hard for a severely autistic, narcissistic and stupid guy like Chris to navigate this landscape.

I don't know if it's even that complicated with Chris. The more I read his old whining about not being able to find women, the more I think his MO was just to walk up to whatever hot woman he saw, and ask her either if she had a boyfriend, or wanted one. He never complained about how his game or pickup lines didn't work, just everything revolved around getting told "I already have a boyfriend". Even when he was out on fake dates, the only real thing he would do is throw out some corny pickup lines, but that was after he knew they were into him. I don't think he knows exactly what "flirting" is, except in the more extreme Hollywood, and porn, cases. I guess he would think some woman would shove her tits out and suck on her finger while looking at him or something. He always complained about "flirting at a distance" and I still have no idea why he got hung up on that or what he thought that entailed except for some TV or porn trope about meeting across a concert or something.

His narcissism was at full display at those moments, it fundamentally crippled his understanding of human relationships and shot down every chance he had of being a nicer, happier person.

As desperate as Chris was/is, he always had extremely high expectations of whatever woman he was after, if they didn't meet these top tier qualifications, Chris just wasn't interested. I still believe that he thought getting a girl was like getting an expensive toy, and Chris just wasn't going to settle on some knockoff Lego brand when there was the real thing just out there. It also shows that Chris had a warped sense of exactly what a woman was, or even what a relationship is, seeing it first as foremost as a replacement mommy that would be make him feel good, someone who would work a job and provide, and also have goofy tard sex whenever he wanted. You could see his grudging "fun" on the date with that overweight woman, and he was not happy, because he thought he should be going with the bubbly, hot girl.

I think that was partly a side effect of all of his "friends", back when he had friends IRL, being young women. He observed them and how they didn't have to struggle to find a significant other -- people just came to them. If that was your only point of reference for how relationships occurred, it would seem natural to think that they "just happened".

I don't really know. Chris saw them with boys, and he never wanted to have them be attracted to him, plus he always whined that he just didn't understand how to date back to then, and demanded special classes to teach kids. I don't know if Chris could see how they met with their boyfriends, Sarah Bevel being the only with a boyfriend. Seems like Chris only had a crush on one or two. Has he expressed confusion over how he could have approached them in high school? The only stuff I can find is creepy planning for when they were eventually going to meet, maybe as a last ditch Love Quest goal.

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[RainwaterDrop]

I felt sorry for him early on and when Bob died. After that, less so. Before was bad, but I felt Snorlax's influence brought the worst out after Bob's passing. Chris also lost me at using autism as a scapegoat. There are tons of people on the spectrum that are way more grounded in reality than them.

Chris' autism may not be as severe as he thinks it is, but with his poor upbringing he is effectively low functioning. It doesn't help that he has loads of encouragement to keep relying on his coping mechanism, the worse things get the more motivated he is to keep daydreaming about Sonichu. I don't blame him in a way, in his case reality is really painful, but it's a hole he (mostly) dug himself in!

i think that’s the aspect i find the saddest and most heartbreaking. he was doomed from the start, with a family like his, and if he had even a slightly different life with slightly different circumstances i don’t think it would have gotten this bad. but we can only speculate, because the little boy in that image is now an adult man in prison for raping his mother every three days and bragging about it with a circle of people pretending to be his friend for the purpose of ruining his life and getting him to kill himself.

Bob has his heart on the right place, but a completely wrong mindset. Comes from being born before World War II in the boonies, I guess, but his worst sin was refusing to see how the World had changed. If the speculation that he himself was somewhere on the spectrum is true, it becomes even more tragic, albeit meaningful in reflection. The unintentional comedy in Chris' life becomes more and more like Bathos as he ages!

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

This could be why he became trans. Once Chris started to understand the expectations placed on males in being active in dating and a relationship, and not being a layabout house-husband, he figured he could transform himself into one of his gal pals who things came so easy to.

And yet Chris is now spending an entire year inn Jail after incest with mommy. Not so easy, innit?

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

And yet Chris is now spending an entire year inn Jail after incest with mommy. Not so easy, innit?

Chris hasn't had to do the fraction of the work he had to do. Someone cooks his free meals, someone cleans for him, someone plans out his every day. Shit, they'll even figure out a place for him to live and fix all his health problems! Even the brain ones!

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

I only felt bad about how his parents fucked him up. He didn't stand a chance because of the entitlement (I hate using that word) his parents instilled in him. 99% of all his problems are his own doing but that's why he's fun to watch, right?

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Having been around people with learning disabilities at various points in my life, there is a part of me that wants to feel sorry for Chris in general.

As a kid, he needed a lot of help, a lot of the right attention, and strict boundaries to steer him in the right direction, and he got none of that. His parents failed him, and once Bob died, he spiraled even further out of control.

He needed the teaching and structure for someone with his mental failings, and he needed to be cut off from the internet and handled less like a spoiled child, and more like someone who needs a lot of help. He didn't get that and that failure makes me heart ache because it didn't have to be that way.

Still, whether it was by his design or by the failures of those entrusted to care for him, he turned out to be a Monster, and my empathy has limits.

 

[troon patrol]

Honestly I kind of feel bad for modern day "Merge Goddess" Chris, it appears he will never grasp reality which is just sad. Part of me wonders if he had some kind of realization tard-fit "OMG I'm in jail" etc; and that is the reason he's been transferred to the mental faculty.

 

[Digital_Disaster]

I have never really felt genuinely sorry for him. He murdered a kitten by refusing to get the poor little thing help. I think he needs to be put away forever. No hope of getting out. Part of me is wishing that worse what happened to him but I have a feeling that's not a very popular opinion here so I won't say it.