Tips Goals - Peepul have been asking for them dood

Regarding the poll..... I would say it depends on if its a running tally for the week or not. Knowing phil he will definetly reset it every day so there is no fucking way its going to be 4k. its likely to be $500 a day or something like that, maybe less.

if i am wrong and he keeps a tally for a week, or until april 15th then yeah it could be 4k, but we all know he aint keeping a running tally for the obvious reason.
 
A little bit of context, for how big of a hypocrite DSP is being for putting up an ongoing tips goal.
From his 12/23/18 Prestream:

“Rather than me- See, I could have put up a GOAL today! I could have put up onscreen, 'Oh! Here's a TIPS GOAL!' And, I don't think that's really needed! I did that last year. And, quite frankly, I don't think it's needed! I think, if you Guys and Gals, WANT TO CONTRIBUTE, YOU WILL! I don't think it's about, getting a GOAL that's hit! Or anything like that. Which is why, you can see, I just have the normal stat leaderboard, for today. And, I'll have the normal leaderboard. I just don't see, THE POINT, in doing, like, a TIPS GOAL, and stuff like that! I think that, AGAIN, if you want to HELP, you would! It's not that- because you see, 'OH! There's a TIPS GOAL today!' Now, all of a sudden, you're INSPIRED to contribute to a stream or something. I don't think that happens! Okay? Uhm. And I don't want to be one of those people, who is constantly like, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! GUYS! Look how close we are to the TIP GOAL!' I want to kind of just, I want to focus on, kind of, INTERACTING with you and having FUN! You see what I mean? *LIP SMACK!*" - Philip "Darksydephil" Burnell, 12/23/18

2018-12-23 11:31:10 PST] antichrist_super5tar: cheer50 why not just set up a tip goal on stream? it would make things very clear cut. I think a lot of people are so caught with their own lives that we can't really keep up with the life of someone on the internet to know if you're close or not to reaching the goal. especially during busy holidays

"All right! I'm going to be VERY HONEST. AGAIN! People don't seem to listen when I say stuff, because I've said this a MILLION TIMES, and people don't listen to me! All right? NUMBER ONE! I gave a ROUGH ESTIMATE of what I'm going to owe for TAXES in 2019. I ALREADY gave the ROUGH ESTIMATE! All right? *LIP SMACK!* That is a ROUGH ESTIMATE based on what my ACCOUNTANT-SLASH-TAX ATTORNEY told me I would've need to pay for the course of THIS YEAR, in quarterly payments! Okay? HOWEVER! What you need to understand is, that estimate has TWO CONTINGENCIES! The first estimate is that, they're ASSUMING that the money I make THIS YEAR, is exactly the same as the money I made LAST YEAR. The second contingency is assuming that I made those payments on time! Well, guess what? I can tell you guys two things: NUMBER ONE, I made DIFFERENT amount of money THIS YEAR than I did LAST YEAR! How much? I HAVE NO IDEA! I won't know that, until I do my taxes! Until, I actually SIT DOWN and I actually look at INCOME versus EXPENSES! And I do that NUMBER CRUNCH! Which I'm probably going to be doing, probably, in February! *SNIFF* I have NO IDEA what I made in 2018 yet! There's NO WAY I can figure this out yet! Okay? I could guess! But I could be TOTALLY WRONG! That's NUMBER ONE! NUMBER TWO! I didn't make the quarterly payments this year! I didn't have any money to do it! So, that means, there's going to be INTEREST! There's going to be FEES! There's going to be all kinds of stuff, that accumulated over this year, that are going to make what I owe to the government, EVEN MORE! Because I didn't do my quarterly payments! So, when I give you guys a BALLPARK FIGURE of, kind of, what I'm going to next year. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. And, by the way, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID on Thanksgiving, when I first revealed this whole issue! Okay? Uhm. That's exactly what I said. But, people just want to make, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! That's all Phil owes and that's exactly right! And Phil should have a countdown on his streams on how much he's raised towards that!' NO!! NUMBER ONE: THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG!! And then, HOW, HOW dishonest would it be, for me to say, 'This is what I owe. And then WE raise it, and it's not enough!' That's not right! That's messed up! That would be IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME! And I wouldn't ever- I wouldn't want to do that! You know? But what it is, is people who want this, are people who, basically, want to say, *MOCKING VOICE* 'Look at how much money Phil raised! BUH, BUH, BUH!' It's the same people who are JEALOUS! It's the people who want to DETRACT! It's the people who want to, uhm, TAKE AWAY from the streams. Having a running tally of what's being raised, TAKES AWAY from the FUN INTERACTIVITY of why you guys are here on the streams to begin with! I don't want the ENTIRETY of today's HOLIDAY STREAM, which is supposed to be, me playing games and having fun, and drinking, and INTERACTING with you guys in a Holiday setting. To be about, 'OH! Here's what we're raising, towards a GOAL!' IT'S BULLSHIT! You know what I mean?! That's bullshit! And, they just want to DISTRACT from US having FUN! And, that's why, I'm not gonna do that! I'm just not! Uhm. I'm not going to fall for the bullshit! Having a running tally, on a PHANTOM TOTAL, that may or may not even be correct, is not a good idea! I'm not DUMB ENOUGH to think that!! Okay? So. NO! I'm not going to things- Because here's what they REALLY want to do: THEY want ME to set up a GOAL on stream, then WE raise it, but then I find out it wasn't the CORRECT GOAL. *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! You see?! PHIL LIED! He took that money, and he EMBEZZLED that money! He's going on a VACATION! He's flying to Tahiti! Where he bought a boat! Or he has a, fucking, metal golden statue in his house of himself!' Or, you know? All kinds of STUPID SHIT! Like that idiot on stream, who said, 'Don't give, don't ever give Phil contributions. Because he eats fast food!' *SNAKE CHUCKLE* This is the mentality of the COMMON PERSON who doesn't like me! Okay? Uhm. But, you see my point? Uhm. That's why I'm not going to do it. I REFUSE! It doesn't make sense! All right? If you guys want to contribute, I'm incredibly APPRECIATIVE. All right? It helps me out TREMENDOUSLY. This month, in particular, like I've already mentioned, I'M STRAPPED! If you TIP ME in the next few days, it would help me, TREMENDOUSLY! BUT! I'm not expecting anything! Anything I get, I'm incredibly grateful for! I'm not going to have a RUNNING TOTAL of things HERE, that becomes what the stream is about! Like a fundraiser. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!! This is supposed to be a Holiday Gaming Stream! All right?! So. I'm not going to fall for their BULLSHIT! And I'm not going to turn it into that! Because that's what THEY want! They want me to seem like A NEGATIVE GUY and A JERK! Who's here all about MONEY and all bout shit! AND I'M NOT! You know? Once the stream starts with gameplay, I'm not going to be talking about that anymore! I'm only bringing it up now, because these are people who are ASKING about it on prestream! Okay?"

*Edited to correct date* Sorry, I put the wrong date on the quotes.
 
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A little bit of context, for how big of a hypocrite DSP is being for putting up an ongoing tips goal.
From his 12/29/18 Prestream:



2018-12-23 11:31:10 PST] antichrist_super5tar: cheer50 why not just set up a tip goal on stream? it would make things very clear cut. I think a lot of people are so caught with their own lives that we can't really keep up with the life of someone on the internet to know if you're close or not to reaching the goal. especially during busy holidays

"All right! I'm going to be VERY HONEST. AGAIN! People don't seem to listen when I say stuff, because I've said this a MILLION TIMES, and people don't listen to me! All right? NUMBER ONE! I gave a ROUGH ESTIMATE of what I'm going to owe for TAXES in 2019. I ALREADY gave the ROUGH ESTIMATE! All right? *LIP SMACK!* That is a ROUGH ESTIMATE based on what my ACCOUNTANT-SLASH-TAX ATTORNEY told me I would've need to pay for the course of THIS YEAR, in quarterly payments! Okay? HOWEVER! What you need to understand is, that estimate has TWO CONTINGENCIES! The first estimate is that, they're ASSUMING that the money I make THIS YEAR, is exactly the same as the money I made LAST YEAR. The second contingency is assuming that I made those payments on time! Well, guess what? I can tell you guys two things: NUMBER ONE, I made DIFFERENT amount of money THIS YEAR than I did LAST YEAR! How much? I HAVE NO IDEA! I won't know that, until I do my taxes! Until, I actually SIT DOWN and I actually look at INCOME versus EXPENSES! And I do that NUMBER CRUNCH! Which I'm probably going to be doing, probably, in February! *SNIFF* I have NO IDEA what I made in 2018 yet! There's NO WAY I can figure this out yet! Okay? I could guess! But I could be TOTALLY WRONG! That's NUMBER ONE! NUMBER TWO! I didn't make the quarterly payments this year! I didn't have any money to do it! So, that means, there's going to be INTEREST! There's going to be FEES! There's going to be all kinds of stuff, that accumulated over this year, that are going to make what I owe to the government, EVEN MORE! Because I didn't do my quarterly payments! So, when I give you guys a BALLPARK FIGURE of, kind of, what I'm going to next year. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. And, by the way, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID on Thanksgiving, when I first revealed this whole issue! Okay? Uhm. That's exactly what I said. But, people just want to make, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! That's all Phil owes and that's exactly right! And Phil should have a countdown on his streams on how much he's raised towards that!' NO!! NUMBER ONE: THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG!! And then, HOW, HOW dishonest would it be, for me to say, 'This is what I owe. And then WE raise it, and it's not enough!' That's not right! That's messed up! That would be IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME! And I wouldn't ever- I wouldn't want to do that! You know? But what it is, is people who want this, are people who, basically, want to say, *MOCKING VOICE* 'Look at how much money Phil raised! BUH, BUH, BUH!' It's the same people who are JEALOUS! It's the people who want to DETRACT! It's the people who want to, uhm, TAKE AWAY from the streams. Having a running tally of what's being raised, TAKES AWAY from the FUN INTERACTIVITY of why you guys are here on the streams to begin with! I don't want the ENTIRETY of today's HOLIDAY STREAM, which is supposed to be, me playing games and having fun, and drinking, and INTERACTING with you guys in a Holiday setting. To be about, 'OH! Here's what we're raising, towards a GOAL!' IT'S BULLSHIT! You know what I mean?! That's bullshit! And, they just want to DISTRACT from US having FUN! And, that's why, I'm not gonna do that! I'm just not! Uhm. I'm not going to fall for the bullshit! Having a running tally, on a PHANTOM TOTAL, that may or may not even be correct, is not a good idea! I'm not DUMB ENOUGH to think that!! Okay? So. NO! I'm not going to things- Because here's what they REALLY want to do: THEY want ME to set up a GOAL on stream, then WE raise it, but then I find out it wasn't the CORRECT GOAL. *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! You see?! PHIL LIED! He took that money, and he EMBEZZLED that money! He's going on a VACATION! He's flying to Tahiti! Where he bought a boat! Or he has a, fucking, metal golden statue in his house of himself!' Or, you know? All kinds of STUPID SHIT! Like that idiot on stream, who said, 'Don't give, don't ever give Phil contributions. Because he eats fast food!' *SNAKE CHUCKLE* This is the mentality of the COMMON PERSON who doesn't like me! Okay? Uhm. But, you see my point? Uhm. That's why I'm not going to do it. I REFUSE! It doesn't make sense! All right? If you guys want to contribute, I'm incredibly APPRECIATIVE. All right? It helps me out TREMENDOUSLY. This month, in particular, like I've already mentioned, I'M STRAPPED! If you TIP ME in the next few days, it would help me, TREMENDOUSLY! BUT! I'm not expecting anything! Anything I get, I'm incredibly grateful for! I'm not going to have a RUNNING TOTAL of things HERE, that becomes what the stream is about! Like a fundraiser. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!! This is supposed to be a Holiday Gaming Stream! All right?! So. I'm not going to fall for their BULLSHIT! And I'm not going to turn it into that! Because that's what THEY want! They want me to seem like A NEGATIVE GUY and A JERK! Who's here all about MONEY and all bout shit! AND I'M NOT! You know? Once the stream starts with gameplay, I'm not going to be talking about that anymore! I'm only bringing it up now, because these are people who are ASKING about it on prestream! Okay?"

A good rule of thumb is that if Phil puts his foot down about something he will go back on it within the year. The more vehement he is, the harder the whiplash will be. He said he'd never start a Patreon. He said he'd never be a streamer. When he did start streaming he said he'd never do shoutouts for bits, put a hold on gameplay to ask for subs or have overlays. When he left Twitch, he said he'd never go back.

If Phil went on stream today and said he'd never go a day without breathing oxygen he'd be found dead next week of asphyxiation.
 
A little bit of context, for how big of a hypocrite DSP is being for putting up an ongoing tips goal.
From his 12/29/18 Prestream:



2018-12-23 11:31:10 PST] antichrist_super5tar: cheer50 why not just set up a tip goal on stream? it would make things very clear cut. I think a lot of people are so caught with their own lives that we can't really keep up with the life of someone on the internet to know if you're close or not to reaching the goal. especially during busy holidays

"All right! I'm going to be VERY HONEST. AGAIN! People don't seem to listen when I say stuff, because I've said this a MILLION TIMES, and people don't listen to me! All right? NUMBER ONE! I gave a ROUGH ESTIMATE of what I'm going to owe for TAXES in 2019. I ALREADY gave the ROUGH ESTIMATE! All right? *LIP SMACK!* That is a ROUGH ESTIMATE based on what my ACCOUNTANT-SLASH-TAX ATTORNEY told me I would've need to pay for the course of THIS YEAR, in quarterly payments! Okay? HOWEVER! What you need to understand is, that estimate has TWO CONTINGENCIES! The first estimate is that, they're ASSUMING that the money I make THIS YEAR, is exactly the same as the money I made LAST YEAR. The second contingency is assuming that I made those payments on time! Well, guess what? I can tell you guys two things: NUMBER ONE, I made DIFFERENT amount of money THIS YEAR than I did LAST YEAR! How much? I HAVE NO IDEA! I won't know that, until I do my taxes! Until, I actually SIT DOWN and I actually look at INCOME versus EXPENSES! And I do that NUMBER CRUNCH! Which I'm probably going to be doing, probably, in February! *SNIFF* I have NO IDEA what I made in 2018 yet! There's NO WAY I can figure this out yet! Okay? I could guess! But I could be TOTALLY WRONG! That's NUMBER ONE! NUMBER TWO! I didn't make the quarterly payments this year! I didn't have any money to do it! So, that means, there's going to be INTEREST! There's going to be FEES! There's going to be all kinds of stuff, that accumulated over this year, that are going to make what I owe to the government, EVEN MORE! Because I didn't do my quarterly payments! So, when I give you guys a BALLPARK FIGURE of, kind of, what I'm going to next year. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. And, by the way, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID on Thanksgiving, when I first revealed this whole issue! Okay? Uhm. That's exactly what I said. But, people just want to make, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! That's all Phil owes and that's exactly right! And Phil should have a countdown on his streams on how much he's raised towards that!' NO!! NUMBER ONE: THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG!! And then, HOW, HOW dishonest would it be, for me to say, 'This is what I owe. And then WE raise it, and it's not enough!' That's not right! That's messed up! That would be IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME! And I wouldn't ever- I wouldn't want to do that! You know? But what it is, is people who want this, are people who, basically, want to say, *MOCKING VOICE* 'Look at how much money Phil raised! BUH, BUH, BUH!' It's the same people who are JEALOUS! It's the people who want to DETRACT! It's the people who want to, uhm, TAKE AWAY from the streams. Having a running tally of what's being raised, TAKES AWAY from the FUN INTERACTIVITY of why you guys are here on the streams to begin with! I don't want the ENTIRETY of today's HOLIDAY STREAM, which is supposed to be, me playing games and having fun, and drinking, and INTERACTING with you guys in a Holiday setting. To be about, 'OH! Here's what we're raising, towards a GOAL!' IT'S BULLSHIT! You know what I mean?! That's bullshit! And, they just want to DISTRACT from US having FUN! And, that's why, I'm not gonna do that! I'm just not! Uhm. I'm not going to fall for the bullshit! Having a running tally, on a PHANTOM TOTAL, that may or may not even be correct, is not a good idea! I'm not DUMB ENOUGH to think that!! Okay? So. NO! I'm not going to things- Because here's what they REALLY want to do: THEY want ME to set up a GOAL on stream, then WE raise it, but then I find out it wasn't the CORRECT GOAL. *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! You see?! PHIL LIED! He took that money, and he EMBEZZLED that money! He's going on a VACATION! He's flying to Tahiti! Where he bought a boat! Or he has a, fucking, metal golden statue in his house of himself!' Or, you know? All kinds of STUPID SHIT! Like that idiot on stream, who said, 'Don't give, don't ever give Phil contributions. Because he eats fast food!' *SNAKE CHUCKLE* This is the mentality of the COMMON PERSON who doesn't like me! Okay? Uhm. But, you see my point? Uhm. That's why I'm not going to do it. I REFUSE! It doesn't make sense! All right? If you guys want to contribute, I'm incredibly APPRECIATIVE. All right? It helps me out TREMENDOUSLY. This month, in particular, like I've already mentioned, I'M STRAPPED! If you TIP ME in the next few days, it would help me, TREMENDOUSLY! BUT! I'm not expecting anything! Anything I get, I'm incredibly grateful for! I'm not going to have a RUNNING TOTAL of things HERE, that becomes what the stream is about! Like a fundraiser. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!! This is supposed to be a Holiday Gaming Stream! All right?! So. I'm not going to fall for their BULLSHIT! And I'm not going to turn it into that! Because that's what THEY want! They want me to seem like A NEGATIVE GUY and A JERK! Who's here all about MONEY and all bout shit! AND I'M NOT! You know? Once the stream starts with gameplay, I'm not going to be talking about that anymore! I'm only bringing it up now, because these are people who are ASKING about it on prestream! Okay?"



He already set up how to get around this.... He said he wouldnt do a tips goal during the save the house tax begathons because he didnt know the exact amount he needed to raise and it wouldnt be right to do a goal when you dont know what the goal is. Now OFC we all know while that is true, its because he wants to be able to increase the number whenever he feels like it between now and april depending on how many schwanns deliveries he decides to order....

THIS tip goal is to raise money for his BILLS for the next 2 weeks! Totally different DOOD *snort*. this is an amount he knows he needs so he can make a goal and be totally traansparent to his fans dood
 
He already set up how to get around this.... He said he wouldnt do a tips goal during the save the house tax begathons because he didnt know the exact amount he needed to raise and it wouldnt be right to do a goal when you dont know what the goal is. Now OFC we all know while that is true, its because he wants to be able to increase the number whenever he feels like it between now and april depending on how many schwanns deliveries he decides to order....

THIS tip goal is to raise money for his BILLS for the next 2 weeks! Totally different DOOD *snort*. this is an amount he knows he needs so he can make a goal and be totally traansparent to his fans dood

It's curious how Phil seems to have two different designations for money: Now Money and Later Money. Later Money doesn't really seem to count for much in his head, almost like if he doesn't have it in his pocket then he'll never have it at all.

I guess the question is, is that because he's shit at budgeting and can't plan, or because Now Money is so desperately needed because he's always got his eye on buying something?
 
In a strange exceptional way, I almost admire DSP's policy of "fuck you, pay me".

Why should he set up Patreon goals if he's still getting $579/month without them?

Why should he set up tip goals if he still gets his money without them?

Don't get me wrong; I know why he "SHOULD" do these things. He could be making $1,200+/month on Patreon if he actually followed through. He would be much better off long term if he did actually make sub/tip/cheer goals and then follow through on them. Heck, we all probably know with only a few small changes DSP would be much more successful. But it's still fascinating how much money DSP can make despite a literal decade of never offering anyone anything in return for their contributions. Fuck you; pay me.
 
In a strange exceptional way, I almost admire DSP's policy of "fuck you, pay me".

Why should he set up Patreon goals if he's still getting $579/month without them?

Why should he set up tip goals if he still gets his money without them?

Don't get me wrong; I know why he "SHOULD" do these things. He could be making $1,200+/month on Patreon if he actually followed through. He would be much better off long term if he did actually make sub/tip/cheer goals and then follow through on them. Heck, we all probably know with only a few small changes DSP would be much more successful. But it's still fascinating how much money DSP can make despite a literal decade of never offering anyone anything in return for their contributions. Fuck you; pay me.


like he said, he wants to keep what he has now and nothing more. i believe him when he says that (at this moment at least). he is making $120k a year, more than enough to keep what he has if he can fix taxes and debt a little. why do more when barely doing anything is giving you enough to "keep what he has now"
 
In a strange exceptional way, I almost admire DSP's policy of "fuck you, pay me".

Why should he set up Patreon goals if he's still getting $579/month without them?

Why should he set up tip goals if he still gets his money without them?

Don't get me wrong; I know why he "SHOULD" do these things. He could be making $1,200+/month on Patreon if he actually followed through. He would be much better off long term if he did actually make sub/tip/cheer goals and then follow through on them. Heck, we all probably know with only a few small changes DSP would be much more successful. But it's still fascinating how much money DSP can make despite a literal decade of never offering anyone anything in return for their contributions. Fuck you; pay me.

"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a streamer. *snort*"

EDIT: Goutfellas. I'll see myself out.
 
In regards to the word salat response of Phil (thanks Flatsoda7): I'm getting a headache from this nonsense, not even kidding.
Waah waah, a set goal would only be an estimation and not the "real goal" it would be dishonest, totally fucked up, waah waah.
No! Fucked up is getting a shit ton of money and do not make clear when at least your estimation is reached, nobody cares if this number fits the real number, people want to know if they make any progress, you can't just let them tap in the dark. Who gives a shit if your trolls and detractors say stupid stuff to you, even if they donate to you?
If you really explained "a million times" it's just a rough estimation, then this has to be enough, why do you put words in "our" mouth? Sure we COULD say what you think we would say, but what does it matter, we are the bad guys anyway. Why do you let your stream control by "us"? You Dave do the additional harm by letting your audience tap in the dark, not "us".

There is only a small hand full of reasons why he gives such an answer and I go with this one: He fears someone could find out how much money he really makes.

I need a vacation from Dave, again. This guy is just ridiculous and his never ending broken whiny voice pisses me off anyway.
 
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"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a streamer. *snort*"

And at least "in theory" Paulie was offering something. Trouble with the cops, he'd take care of it. Trouble with deliveries, trouble with Tommy, trouble with the bill? You just had to come up with his money no matter what. And he'd fuck up your credit.
 
A little bit of context, for how big of a hypocrite DSP is being for putting up an ongoing tips goal.
From his 12/29/18 Prestream:



2018-12-23 11:31:10 PST] antichrist_super5tar: cheer50 why not just set up a tip goal on stream? it would make things very clear cut. I think a lot of people are so caught with their own lives that we can't really keep up with the life of someone on the internet to know if you're close or not to reaching the goal. especially during busy holidays

"All right! I'm going to be VERY HONEST. AGAIN! People don't seem to listen when I say stuff, because I've said this a MILLION TIMES, and people don't listen to me! All right? NUMBER ONE! I gave a ROUGH ESTIMATE of what I'm going to owe for TAXES in 2019. I ALREADY gave the ROUGH ESTIMATE! All right? *LIP SMACK!* That is a ROUGH ESTIMATE based on what my ACCOUNTANT-SLASH-TAX ATTORNEY told me I would've need to pay for the course of THIS YEAR, in quarterly payments! Okay? HOWEVER! What you need to understand is, that estimate has TWO CONTINGENCIES! The first estimate is that, they're ASSUMING that the money I make THIS YEAR, is exactly the same as the money I made LAST YEAR. The second contingency is assuming that I made those payments on time! Well, guess what? I can tell you guys two things: NUMBER ONE, I made DIFFERENT amount of money THIS YEAR than I did LAST YEAR! How much? I HAVE NO IDEA! I won't know that, until I do my taxes! Until, I actually SIT DOWN and I actually look at INCOME versus EXPENSES! And I do that NUMBER CRUNCH! Which I'm probably going to be doing, probably, in February! *SNIFF* I have NO IDEA what I made in 2018 yet! There's NO WAY I can figure this out yet! Okay? I could guess! But I could be TOTALLY WRONG! That's NUMBER ONE! NUMBER TWO! I didn't make the quarterly payments this year! I didn't have any money to do it! So, that means, there's going to be INTEREST! There's going to be FEES! There's going to be all kinds of stuff, that accumulated over this year, that are going to make what I owe to the government, EVEN MORE! Because I didn't do my quarterly payments! So, when I give you guys a BALLPARK FIGURE of, kind of, what I'm going to next year. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. And, by the way, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID on Thanksgiving, when I first revealed this whole issue! Okay? Uhm. That's exactly what I said. But, people just want to make, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! That's all Phil owes and that's exactly right! And Phil should have a countdown on his streams on how much he's raised towards that!' NO!! NUMBER ONE: THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG!! And then, HOW, HOW dishonest would it be, for me to say, 'This is what I owe. And then WE raise it, and it's not enough!' That's not right! That's messed up! That would be IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME! And I wouldn't ever- I wouldn't want to do that! You know? But what it is, is people who want this, are people who, basically, want to say, *MOCKING VOICE* 'Look at how much money Phil raised! BUH, BUH, BUH!' It's the same people who are JEALOUS! It's the people who want to DETRACT! It's the people who want to, uhm, TAKE AWAY from the streams. Having a running tally of what's being raised, TAKES AWAY from the FUN INTERACTIVITY of why you guys are here on the streams to begin with! I don't want the ENTIRETY of today's HOLIDAY STREAM, which is supposed to be, me playing games and having fun, and drinking, and INTERACTING with you guys in a Holiday setting. To be about, 'OH! Here's what we're raising, towards a GOAL!' IT'S BULLSHIT! You know what I mean?! That's bullshit! And, they just want to DISTRACT from US having FUN! And, that's why, I'm not gonna do that! I'm just not! Uhm. I'm not going to fall for the bullshit! Having a running tally, on a PHANTOM TOTAL, that may or may not even be correct, is not a good idea! I'm not DUMB ENOUGH to think that!! Okay? So. NO! I'm not going to things- Because here's what they REALLY want to do: THEY want ME to set up a GOAL on stream, then WE raise it, but then I find out it wasn't the CORRECT GOAL. *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! You see?! PHIL LIED! He took that money, and he EMBEZZLED that money! He's going on a VACATION! He's flying to Tahiti! Where he bought a boat! Or he has a, fucking, metal golden statue in his house of himself!' Or, you know? All kinds of STUPID SHIT! Like that idiot on stream, who said, 'Don't give, don't ever give Phil contributions. Because he eats fast food!' *SNAKE CHUCKLE* This is the mentality of the COMMON PERSON who doesn't like me! Okay? Uhm. But, you see my point? Uhm. That's why I'm not going to do it. I REFUSE! It doesn't make sense! All right? If you guys want to contribute, I'm incredibly APPRECIATIVE. All right? It helps me out TREMENDOUSLY. This month, in particular, like I've already mentioned, I'M STRAPPED! If you TIP ME in the next few days, it would help me, TREMENDOUSLY! BUT! I'm not expecting anything! Anything I get, I'm incredibly grateful for! I'm not going to have a RUNNING TOTAL of things HERE, that becomes what the stream is about! Like a fundraiser. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!! This is supposed to be a Holiday Gaming Stream! All right?! So. I'm not going to fall for their BULLSHIT! And I'm not going to turn it into that! Because that's what THEY want! They want me to seem like A NEGATIVE GUY and A JERK! Who's here all about MONEY and all bout shit! AND I'M NOT! You know? Once the stream starts with gameplay, I'm not going to be talking about that anymore! I'm only bringing it up now, because these are people who are ASKING about it on prestream! Okay?"
Ummm do you see the date of that quote? 12/29/2018! Why are you using an out of context quote Phil literally said last year! A lot can happen in a year. Phil has grown a lot since then and has to make changes! It's current year and streamers need tip goals, real talk.
 
A little bit of context, for how big of a hypocrite DSP is being for putting up an ongoing tips goal.
From his 12/29/18 Prestream:



2018-12-23 11:31:10 PST] antichrist_super5tar: cheer50 why not just set up a tip goal on stream? it would make things very clear cut. I think a lot of people are so caught with their own lives that we can't really keep up with the life of someone on the internet to know if you're close or not to reaching the goal. especially during busy holidays

"All right! I'm going to be VERY HONEST. AGAIN! People don't seem to listen when I say stuff, because I've said this a MILLION TIMES, and people don't listen to me! All right? NUMBER ONE! I gave a ROUGH ESTIMATE of what I'm going to owe for TAXES in 2019. I ALREADY gave the ROUGH ESTIMATE! All right? *LIP SMACK!* That is a ROUGH ESTIMATE based on what my ACCOUNTANT-SLASH-TAX ATTORNEY told me I would've need to pay for the course of THIS YEAR, in quarterly payments! Okay? HOWEVER! What you need to understand is, that estimate has TWO CONTINGENCIES! The first estimate is that, they're ASSUMING that the money I make THIS YEAR, is exactly the same as the money I made LAST YEAR. The second contingency is assuming that I made those payments on time! Well, guess what? I can tell you guys two things: NUMBER ONE, I made DIFFERENT amount of money THIS YEAR than I did LAST YEAR! How much? I HAVE NO IDEA! I won't know that, until I do my taxes! Until, I actually SIT DOWN and I actually look at INCOME versus EXPENSES! And I do that NUMBER CRUNCH! Which I'm probably going to be doing, probably, in February! *SNIFF* I have NO IDEA what I made in 2018 yet! There's NO WAY I can figure this out yet! Okay? I could guess! But I could be TOTALLY WRONG! That's NUMBER ONE! NUMBER TWO! I didn't make the quarterly payments this year! I didn't have any money to do it! So, that means, there's going to be INTEREST! There's going to be FEES! There's going to be all kinds of stuff, that accumulated over this year, that are going to make what I owe to the government, EVEN MORE! Because I didn't do my quarterly payments! So, when I give you guys a BALLPARK FIGURE of, kind of, what I'm going to next year. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. And, by the way, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID on Thanksgiving, when I first revealed this whole issue! Okay? Uhm. That's exactly what I said. But, people just want to make, *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! That's all Phil owes and that's exactly right! And Phil should have a countdown on his streams on how much he's raised towards that!' NO!! NUMBER ONE: THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG!! And then, HOW, HOW dishonest would it be, for me to say, 'This is what I owe. And then WE raise it, and it's not enough!' That's not right! That's messed up! That would be IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME! And I wouldn't ever- I wouldn't want to do that! You know? But what it is, is people who want this, are people who, basically, want to say, *MOCKING VOICE* 'Look at how much money Phil raised! BUH, BUH, BUH!' It's the same people who are JEALOUS! It's the people who want to DETRACT! It's the people who want to, uhm, TAKE AWAY from the streams. Having a running tally of what's being raised, TAKES AWAY from the FUN INTERACTIVITY of why you guys are here on the streams to begin with! I don't want the ENTIRETY of today's HOLIDAY STREAM, which is supposed to be, me playing games and having fun, and drinking, and INTERACTING with you guys in a Holiday setting. To be about, 'OH! Here's what we're raising, towards a GOAL!' IT'S BULLSHIT! You know what I mean?! That's bullshit! And, they just want to DISTRACT from US having FUN! And, that's why, I'm not gonna do that! I'm just not! Uhm. I'm not going to fall for the bullshit! Having a running tally, on a PHANTOM TOTAL, that may or may not even be correct, is not a good idea! I'm not DUMB ENOUGH to think that!! Okay? So. NO! I'm not going to things- Because here's what they REALLY want to do: THEY want ME to set up a GOAL on stream, then WE raise it, but then I find out it wasn't the CORRECT GOAL. *MOCKING VOICE* 'OH! You see?! PHIL LIED! He took that money, and he EMBEZZLED that money! He's going on a VACATION! He's flying to Tahiti! Where he bought a boat! Or he has a, fucking, metal golden statue in his house of himself!' Or, you know? All kinds of STUPID SHIT! Like that idiot on stream, who said, 'Don't give, don't ever give Phil contributions. Because he eats fast food!' *SNAKE CHUCKLE* This is the mentality of the COMMON PERSON who doesn't like me! Okay? Uhm. But, you see my point? Uhm. That's why I'm not going to do it. I REFUSE! It doesn't make sense! All right? If you guys want to contribute, I'm incredibly APPRECIATIVE. All right? It helps me out TREMENDOUSLY. This month, in particular, like I've already mentioned, I'M STRAPPED! If you TIP ME in the next few days, it would help me, TREMENDOUSLY! BUT! I'm not expecting anything! Anything I get, I'm incredibly grateful for! I'm not going to have a RUNNING TOTAL of things HERE, that becomes what the stream is about! Like a fundraiser. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!! This is supposed to be a Holiday Gaming Stream! All right?! So. I'm not going to fall for their BULLSHIT! And I'm not going to turn it into that! Because that's what THEY want! They want me to seem like A NEGATIVE GUY and A JERK! Who's here all about MONEY and all bout shit! AND I'M NOT! You know? Once the stream starts with gameplay, I'm not going to be talking about that anymore! I'm only bringing it up now, because these are people who are ASKING about it on prestream! Okay?"

This is amazing, I just copy+pasted this to a couple shitlord friends of mine. All those letters, words, and sentences, and nothing was accomplished
 
Regarding the poll..... I would say it depends on if its a running tally for the week or not. Knowing phil he will definetly reset it every day so there is no fucking way its going to be 4k. its likely to be $500 a day or something like that, maybe less.

if i am wrong and he keeps a tally for a week, or until april 15th then yeah it could be 4k, but we all know he aint keeping a running tally for the obvious reason.

This poll is based on his wording about showing the progress. I'm assuming he'll have some goal set up for the next 8 days that will be a total amount not reset every day.
 
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Of course he isn’t gonna run any goals for reaching those amounts. Are you kidding? You donate to help him, not to get something in return.

If he actually does have some kind of incentive for his viewers to reach these tip goals, I will shit a house.
 
He occasionally gets people to throw $20 or $50 at a time. If the big whales are around today it isn't unreasonable.

I know he never disclosed what his February 2018 suspension was for, but wasn't he doing something similar with his fundraising?

ALSO: No reward for hitting the tip goal. This is just to help him with his bills. He hopes it will motivate people.
 
So basically DSP wants $1400 or so since he's doing this for 7 days.

I'd like to point out that 1.5% times $1400 is $106K.

If this tip goal shit is intended to wholly pay his January-due B&O taxes that means he made $106K last year.

Not that we have any proof that's what the tips goals are for. Just food for your brain.
 
Indies Maration, Dec. 6, 2018: Tips goal OK

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Pre-Stream Dec. 6, 2018: "What I have today is a total tips counter. I usually never do this. Okaay. Usually I have, y'know, cheers, subs, tips and all that up there, but I usually do not do a total tips counter. However, ladies and gentlemen, for those who have not been paying attention for the past two weeks, I'm pretty much in financial trouble here."



Holiday Gaming Marathon, Dec. 23, 2018: Tips Goal Useless

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Pre-Stream Dec. 23, 2018: "I could have put up a goal today. I could have put up on stream, 'Oh, here's a tips goal!' I don't think that that's really needed. I did that last year and quite frankly I don't think it's needed. I think that if you guys and gals want to contribute, you will. I don't think it's about getting a goal that's hit or anything like that as you can see I just have the normal stat leaderboard for today and I'll have the normal leaderboard. I just don't see the point in doing like a tips goal and stuff like that. Again, if you wanted to help you would. It's not that because you see, 'Oh, there's a tips goal today' and now all of a sudden you're inspired to contribute to a stream or something. I don't think that happens. Okaay. I don't want to be one of those people who is constantly about 'Oh, guys! Look how close we are to the tips goal!'"


Jan. 6, 2019: Tips goal OK again

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