Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

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But this confirms its real! You cracked it wide open!
I mean I guess I was aware they existed when they were discussed. Just surprised that they must be so widespread that they have one "near" the titanic ("near" is uncertain because sound travels really far underwater from what I remember)

I seem to remember people saying the Navy was holding off in getting involved because they didn't want to expose where their listening stations were.
 
I mean I guess I was aware they existed when they were discussed. Just surprised that they must be so widespread that they have one "near" the titanic ("near" is uncertain because sound travels really far underwater from what I remember)

I seem to remember people saying the Navy was holding off in getting involved because they didn't want to expose where their listening stations were.
Actually we used to have a lot more. We've mothballed and dismantled a lot of the systems since the Cold War. The North Atlantic used to be littered with SOSUS sensors and modified fishing boats (for stealthy radar profiles - fiberglass superstructures and such) that pulled SURTASS towed array sonar instead of fishing nets during the latter 70s into the 80s, because that's where the naval battles that would decide the fate of Europe would happen.

The shipping lanes determined where those pesky commie submarines that would attack the supply convoys would hunt. They called the chokepoint where Ivan would surge out into the Atlantic the G-I-UK Gap, for Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. If it happened, it would start there, so they focused a lot of sensors there. Shit, I first learned about this stuff reading Tom Clancy novels when I was in jr high school. It wasn't exactly hush-hush.

I should give Red Storm Rising another read...
 
Actually we used to have a lot more. We've mothballed and dismantled a lot of the systems since the Cold War. The North Atlantic used to be littered with SOSUS sensors and modified fishing boats (for stealthy radar profiles - fiberglass superstructures and such) that pulled SURTASS towed array sonar instead of fishing nets during the latter 70s into the 80s, because that's where the naval battles that would decide the fate of Europe would happen.

The shipping lanes determined where those pesky commie submarines that would attack the supply convoys would hunt. They called the chokepoint where Ivan would surge out into the Atlantic the G-I-UK Gap, for Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. If it happened, it would start there, so they focused a lot of sensors there. Shit, I first learned about this stuff reading Tom Clancy novels when I was in jr high school. It wasn't exactly hush-hush.

I should give Red Storm Rising another read...
I suppose they're not that relevant anymore considering they can carry super long range missiles and probably satellite shit and whatever other stuff they've invented since then have probably superseded it.
 
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I suppose they're not that relevant anymore
I'd say they are less relevant, sure. A lot of the ones that still exist spend a lot of time doing legitimate oceanographic research ("counting whales for greenpeace", listening to seismic events, blah blah blah), nowadays. It justifies the budget expenditure, makes the navy look better to the green types, and keeps the system around, "just in case."

To be honest, my knowledge of the subject is out of date, as I haven't done much wargaming, simming, or general milsperging in the last couple decades. Now they probably listen to migrant boats and drugrunners, too, if they even do what I listed, anymore.
 
The shipping lanes determined where those pesky commie submarines that would attack the supply convoys would hunt. They called the chokepoint where Ivan would surge out into the Atlantic the G-I-UK Gap, for Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. If it happened, it would start there, so they focused a lot of sensors there. Shit, I first learned about this stuff reading Tom Clancy novels when I was in jr high school. It wasn't exactly hush-hush.

I should give Red Storm Rising another read...
If this is your area of interest I'd recommend the milsim game Sea Power as well. Very good simulation of cold war naval action with missiles, naval aircraft, CIWS, simulation of both radar and EWS. It's got it all.
 
If this is your area of interest I'd recommend the milsim game Sea Power as well. Very good simulation of cold war naval action with missiles, naval aircraft, CIWS, simulation of both radar and EWS. It's got it all.
Published by Microprose, yeah. Its been on my steam wishlist for awhile, now. I'll probably grab it soon. I'm pretty stoked at Microprose having a revival. I hope they remake some of their old WW2 games, too. I'd kill to play a new version of 1942 PAW or TF1942. The B-17 Redux game is actually good, and Regiments was decent, too. And I want a new Gunship while were at it, the Amiga version was my jam in the early 90s.

I keep banking games I don't have time to play in the hopes I can one day milsperg anew.
 
CEO was a fucking dumbass who absolutely deserved his fate, and then there's his wife being his greatest support (as a good wife is wont to do) hearing the implosion but not knowing what it was immediately. She doesn't know until it hits her later she had heard her husband's demise. Real brutal.
 
I don't even remember what they were trying to distract us from when they used this to draw national attention away from a mjoro scandal.
Hunter Biden's laptop and his other shenanigans.
We Farmers knew about that shit three years previously, but the general public was starting to look around and see daylight. Couldn't have that happening.
 
Going to necro this but has anyone watched the Netflix documentary about it that is out? Thoughts?
 
Going to necro this but has anyone watched the Netflix documentary about it that is out? Thoughts?
It's more artistic style than delivering info. But it does show plenty of snippets of Stockton Rush being a complete unhinged psychopath.

I really do loathe Netflix's idiotic "ASMR as Documentary" approach they use these days.
 
It's more artistic style than delivering info. But it does show plenty of snippets of Stockton Rush being a complete unhinged psychopath.

I really do loathe Netflix's idiotic "ASMR as Documentary" approach they use these days.
That it did, as well as the numerous known failure points during testing that just got blatantly ignored.
That fucking weirdo with the heart monitor watch just gives me the wrong vibe. A yes man who blamed "the culture" for killing people. One guy who stood up and tried to do something got beaten down financially.

Really didn't like the British journalist or the inclusion of that influencer.
 
I just finished watching the Netflix doc.... I mean for fucks sake... they were warned about leaving the submersible out in sub zero temps exposed, however the same guy who found a couple of hundred k to sue former employees couldn't find enough cash for a tent and some electric heaters.
 
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