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Saying that people troon out because of a fetish is evil and makes you an evil person.
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I've never looked up Cavetown before but had listened to some of their music and assumed (from This is Home) that they were a young woman with some extreme social hangups regarding womanhood and femininity and the presentation of such things.Youtube recommended me a music video by an artist called "Cavetown" - apparently some FtM musician who writes songs about her Strugglez. I was nostalgia-tripping on some crappy pop-punk, okay?
A quick search tells me she hasn't been mentioned on KF before,
This song apparently had some deeper meaning about gender or whatever, but her fanbase is worryingly young and the comments section had me double-taking.
Here's a 13 year old girl who prefers to act masculine and is having trouble going through the turmoil of teenagehood and puberty. Many such cases! And like all the other girls, she's chalked it up to being transgender and has decided to share her story with the 14 million people who have come to listen to this song:
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Almost 800 thumbs up and 100 replies of unwavering support for this 13 year old who hates herself so much, she wishes she could just opt-out of womanhood. Luckily she seems to be holding off for now, but is still adamant about her decision.
Among the 100 replies of unwavering support are more young girls with the same issues, as well as adults "affirming" them. "Come talk to me on discord, bro!":
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I can tell they are probably adults by clicking on random profiles and checking the join dates. Kids don't have youtube accounts that are upwards of 10 years old. Here's Connor Murphy chiming in an a youtube account that's older than OP but I think he's just an idiot, he's not really encouraging. Just an example.
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Here's an 11 year-old who "came out as he/they", whatever that means:
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And here's a NINE year-old with "supportive parents" who don't want them "showing off their pride". This one is thunk-provoking.
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Anyway here's cavetown. Looks like a female and slightly more commited Sam Smith, with the froggiest voice I have ever heard. I wonder what she thinks about the children who listen to her music?
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Seems like I was absolutely correct.
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this is the kind of mental torture you put yourself through when you won't accept you face sexism and are also in a belief system where everything hinges on denial of your sex. TRAs, especially the trans women whose approval they seek, ignore TIF's struggles and demonize them because they're "just like other men now", because that's what's considered "validating" or something, which can actually be extremely painful, and feel like gaslighting. to escape the cognitive dissonance you literally have to make up words. you're not "allowed" to call it misandry, and you're too prideful to call it misogyny. i don't envy being in this position, but luckily it's as easy as just accepting yourself. if life is so hard and invalidating because you imagine yourself completely differently than the world, then i seriously can't imagine why people continue to do it. i mean, serious question, what can a TIF do that a woman can't? i feel like a lot of TIFs really resent women and lesbians. it's sad. hope they wake up. also, the mollifying clarification that this isn't hateful towards TIMs is pathetic to see. trans woman big brother is always watching.just discovered Greyson (my wife says trans men get their names from soap operas) , tumblrina who writes under the name nothorses who writes all kinds of official-sounding position papers, like a member of a socialist party.
so when they started linking him on twitter as a 'transmasc' expert, i went over to see if he had any political chops.
so far, the trans women leaving the trans men in the dust when it comes to 'queer theory'.
Priceless shit, as promised, i knew i had to share.
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On “Transandrophobia”
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We know “misandry” isn’t real. We know transmisogyny is a huge, pressing issue, and transandrophobia is not meant to be a counter to it, or to undermine it, or to discount that it exists and is a problem.
There is this urge to binarize the trans community, and to create pyramids of oppression within it that directly mirror the pyramids of oppression that cis people experience. There’s a desire to say that because trans women are women, they are The (only) Oppressed, and because trans men are men, we are The Oppressors.
The thing is, the trans community and trans experiences aren’t that simple. We aren’t a direct mirror to the way the patriarchy works for cis men & women, where one group oppresses another, and gains privilege for it. Trans men don’t gain privilege within the trans community for being men, and we don’t oppress everyone else because we are men. Being trans complicates things, and it makes gender interactions much more nuanced than that.
“Transandrophobia”- the specific marginalization that trans men/transmascs experience.
We say this instead of “transmisandry” because we do not want to miscommunicate our intentions. “Misandry” does not exist. It is not a way of countering or undermining the reality of transmisogyny. The word refers to the fact that trans men are marginalized because they are men when they should not be. When they should be women instead, because that’s what society wants.
So why not just “transphobia”? Because transphobia is a broader term that covers some, but not all of the marginalization we face. Because it impacts everyone differently, and that’s worth discussing- just like transmisogyny and nbphobia/enbyphobia/exorsexism is worth discussing.
Some examples!
The word refers to a slice of specific experiences and marginalization that the rest of the community does not generally experience, and that’s it.
- Stereotyping transmascs as “soft”, or as “men lite”.
- Refusing to call us “boy” rather than “boi”, as if the actual word credits our manhood too much (”Boi” is also a term which, unless I’m mistaken, which refers specifically to black lesbians)
- Encouraging trans men to be more feminine, to distance ourselves from manhood and masculinity.
- Cis lesbians saying they’d date trans men, insisting we’re just confused lesbians
- Cis people who say they’d never date a cis man, but would date trans men- because we are “softer” and not “really” men.
- “Men are gross… except trans men”
Transmascs are seen as “gender traitors”- betraying the sanctity of womanhood to chase ugly manhood instead.
- Comments like “why would you want to be a man?”
- Cis women tend to distance themselves from us as they accept that we are men- even while accepting cis men- because they feel we have betrayed them.
- Silencing transmascs by insisting we are, by nature, misogynists and benefactors of male privilege regardless of how well we pass/whether we are out/what the context and situation are.
- The idea that being a trans man is only a symptom of internalized misogyny, so we must therefore be misogynists.
- Scare or nonexistent resources for abuse inflicted upon us, due both to transphobia, and to the exclusion of trans men specifically from most abuse resources.
- Medical professionals refusing to believe we are who & what we say we are, often leading to unnecessary procedures and miscommunication
- Pregnancy tests for transmascs without a uterus
- Urine testing receptacles meant for penises rather than vaginas (or vice versa)
- Misgendering over the phone, demanding to speak with the “actual” patient
- “Women’s clinic”
- Mistreatment and abuse at women’s clinics for looking like an “intruder”, for appearing to be “stealing resources” or “taking up space”.
It is not a way of perpetuating transmisogyny, and it should not be leveled against transfemmes. It does not imply that trans women oppress us, only that we have different experiences.
If you are uncomfortable with the word, that’s fine. I think there’s room to tweak and converse and make sure it suits the purpose that the community wants from it. This is just a compilation of what I understand, right now, and what I’ve heard from other transmascs.
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the goal is to be indistinguishable from us. well okay then, if you are, you are an oppressor too. This is what your side says, not me, your side.
if you successfully pass and nobody knows you were born female, your own ideology says you GAIN STATUS by becoming a man. How could it be otherwise?
There is no way around that, but the way they twist themselves into knots saying, I am a man, well not really, oh yes I am, oh no but not a mean-oppressor-man, blahblahblah = further proof of what total bullshit all this is.
TIFs (trans men, nonbinary women, transmascs) are basically the scapegoats of the movement and they're aware of that fact.
but it's also blindingly obvious to everyone but them that the trans movement was propped up to serve aggrieved males only.
that's why there's no support for TIFs beyond what's instrumental to TIMs. that's why the term transandrophobia doesn't exist.
you're female and that's why they don't care about you.
TIMs are the entire reason this particular point exists, they constantly accuse innocent TIFs of "(trans)misogyny" against them:
"Silencing transmascs by insisting we are, by nature, misogynists and benefactors of male privilege regardless of how well we pass/whether we are out/what the context and situation are."
yer a female, harry. if you were male, the following wouldn't happen. also, it's an expression of affection and real concern:
"Cis lesbians saying they’d date trans men, insisting we’re just confused lesbians"
(women are attracted to YOU and YOUR BODY, not your mental abstractions, self-concept, or what you wish to be someday)
there's another fundamental misunderstanding. people don't call TIFs internalized misogynists because they hate or hurt women. the reason is that they value the impossible idea of being male more than they value themselves, over their own health. they think woman is a feminine gender presentation, or that adult human females, half of the population, can't do as individuals, what TIFs can be or do, without this label. you're an internalized misogynist because you degrade yourself and others in the process, and the poison can spread, so other girls and women live stunted LARPing lives based on fear instead of focusing on other endeavors. that's what is truly hateful. most westerners accept female masculinity or gender nonconformity.
tl;dr: if any trans-identified females are hatereading, from me to you: keep your tits, live for yourself, and join us in reality.
there are only male and female people in this world*, and they have a historical dynamic that is thousands of years old^.
* intersex people have one biological sex as well, read a book. external sexual characteristics are not sex. sex is a developmental pattern to produce one gamete: sperm or egg. no speggs.
* karl marx wrote on this topic specifically. you are not a marxist if you deny sex and sex oppression. you aren't a feminist, or even a liberal, if you deny the need for equality of the sexes.
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I also think that women who are genuinely comfortable enough in their own skin that they don't engage in this dumbfuckery are triggering to TiFs ("transmen") on an unconscious level. They represent a level of confidence and comfort in reality that deep down I think trannies can only aspire to - they must understand on some level that they're pissing into the wind with their nonexistent armflesh dicks, fighting the inexorability of the reality that they're female.
I think they know, somewhere inside of them, that they're ultimately cowards trying to find a cheat code to escape misogyny rather than put in the hard work of engaging in solidarity with those of the same class (women) in order to achieve progress for all members of that class. To use a labor union analogy, TiFs are essentially scabs, sucking up to management for a crumb of approval and a pat on the head, while TERFs are the union activists screaming at the factory doors. I think the implicit knowledge of this adds to their self-loathing, and their consequent resentment of women that haven't been retarded enough to partially flay themselves to still be treated like shit by misogynists like male trannies and their enablers.
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Shit, I guess I'll just disappear then. I'm sure the troons know people who can help me with that.
Like a faggot in a dress, any more questions?
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YWNBAAG (you will never be an anime girl)
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So true. The idea that people don't think about gender that much really unnerves them. They think it means we're not "interrogating" our gender, that they need to encourage us to really think about it in hopes we'll troon out like them. No. Most of us just know that gendered displays are simply fashion, will change over time, and are not obligatory to be seen as men or women.
It's like someone REALLY STRONGLY believing they were ACTUALLY born in the 1970s because they like Farrah Fawcett hair and The Who. Normal people aren't being literal when they say, "I was born in the wrong time." They just mean they like the aesthetic and incorporate bits of it into their life because it makes them happy.
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Oh well, I guess I got carried away when I saw a smash player, weeb and who dressed like a woman.
In order to redeem my mistake I found this:
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The gofundme
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help latinx trans girl with school costs, organized by Julieta Quirarte
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California community college is like, what, $1200 a semester at most on a full 16-18 unit courseload? And if you’re truly A Poor, there is financial aid, most of it not loan related. This idiot can go to their shit school for next to nothing.
And Latinx? Not buying it. Just because you wear chola makeup and speak Spanish doesn’t mean you’re not white. This looks like a white man playing Cholita cosplay.
Just think of the grifting we could have done if GFM existed when we were in college. Sigh.
PLEASE don’t speak for all of us. Just because SJW lesbians and bi women on social media virtue signal for trannies doesn’t mean the majority of us support this trash.
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Looking just like his stinkditch: decomposing.
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One TIF I know straight up calls herself male. She'll post a selfie of her in a lowcut shirt, curves, and short height and caption it with "reminder, I am male". She works in the medical field too so I know when she means male she means Y chromosome. It's pretty sad because she puts herself out there a lot and will travel to fuck men who are probably taking advantage of her mental state and delusions to fuck her and literally abuse her (surprise, surprise, she's into bdsm). I remember her saying that she's into gender play and wearing girls clothes while being demeaned but her hard limit is being misgendered while doing it and I had to stifle my laughter to not be called out by the group.
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That's why I do not understand r/ftmpunished. Like, they're up for breeding, and plenty of other fucked up shit (though most put they aren't into scat and piss play), but misgendering is a HARD NO!! And I've seen quite a few posters who aren't on T or anything, still have their boobs, and have done nothing to transition post there. It just creeps me out. You don't want to be a woman, yet you still want to be sexually degraded like a woman, except the other person has to pretend you're a boy/man? Don't understand that thinking at all. And sorry to say, but none of those men who reply to those posters actually see the TIFs as men. They just see they're easily exploitable women, and so long as they humor them with the male pronouns, they can do whatever fucked up thing they want to them.
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This makes me wonder, are any M2Fs into forced masculinization? Like "yes daddy pump me with testosterone make me your swole buttslut" or anything like that? I've never seen that. ... if it exists please nobody reply to me with pictures
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Our friend Cosima has written a poem about kink at pride.
Totally not autogynephilia pt. ????
I wonder why we don't talk about Gretchen Felker-Martin more. Popular in tranny circles.
Interacting with another lolcow.
Here, he is indirectly talking to sh0e.
Totally not autogynephilia pt. ????
I wonder why we don't talk about Gretchen Felker-Martin more. Popular in tranny circles.
Interacting with another lolcow.
Here, he is indirectly talking to sh0e.
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1. Don't take your children to Pride
2. Don't defend sexualizing children
3. Even if minors have sexuality (pubescent minors) don't try to expose them to kinky sexual stuff
It's really easy not to act like a pedophile... or so I thought until I discovered the Farms
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Ah, yes! As a woman, I can say we all totally act like this! We all wear dresses and make faces and eyefuck ourselves on camera.
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it's as simple as this: when a child sees something beyond basic sex education, it should be a mistake, not a guarantee.
studies show children shown porn too early have drastically negative mental health outcomes. you can't put spin on that.
anything short of porn or CSA is not a tragic mistake, but it should be completely avoided and managed by a sane parent.
i'm talking a child under 13 years old. they need stewardship. you can't negligently rely on them to "not get it" and move on.
TRAs aren't interested in understanding fathers, mothers, or children. most of them are single or trooning out their kid.
it's "everyone for themselves". if a creep wants to do antisocial shit, it should be illegal for anyone to shame or stop him.
it would be mean, and that's the worst thing to be. nevermind anyone else, and how they're affected by the man's actions.
karen at YKR talked about a study of 1000 CDs finding that most got off to CD even when "orgasm wasn't feasible" (in public).
you can see where they're going with that right? "AGP isn't real, but even if it were, it would be OK for me to get off in public".
put this and everything else about trans rights together and it really is an expertly crafted men's rights movement for perverts.
this is general, and not about pride, but making the "kink at pride" debate seem asinine is their foothold to the next step(s).
trannies will never be satisfied until the function of appropriate social shame is gone for them and a prison for everyone else.
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Every time I see a troon spin around in a dress/skirt, the expression they have just makes me think of a caveman putting on a dress for the first time and him figuring out he can make it spin. That's how fucking retarded he looks.