Transformers general thread - Toy Robot men based on giant robots based on previously mentioned toys about said robots

I goddamn hate cyberverse. The visuals are shit. The writing is shit, and it's fans are fucking garbage people. I would rather watch goddamn energon then cyberverse.
I just want giant robots in an endless war, not this navel gazing retardation.

In related news:
I went to TF-con. Lots of cool folks, but no pepsibotimus to troll IRL this year. The YouTuber panel on the second day was filled with literal who's
It was: skinny nerd, vange1us, some limey fruit, troon 1 and troon 2, and big based black kid.

I met jobby as well. very nice guy, much taller than expected.
 
That was Earthspark.
my bad, all of the shows past Prime blend together name wise for me. Probably because I didn't pay attention any of them. I get the last quarter of IDW crossed up with the shit reboot as well.

anyone here have newage jetfire? it looks pretty good, but I'm not sure if its worth $95.
 
I actually thought the first 10 Episodes of Earthshart were pretty decent, nothing groundbreaking and full of problems but fun overall. this last batch of 8 episodes tho is roughhhhhh.
even ignoring the Nightshade nonsense, something is just wrong with the writing where every episode feels extremely stretched and stilted.
last one I watched was episode 16 and it was such a mess. it starts in a big flashback thing about how they ended the war or whatever, and of course it ends with the Hasbro mandated Allspark being thrown into a spacebridge, whatever. but then its revealed it was actually the main characters reenacting it.... on ALLSPARK MEMORIAL PARK. yes its actually called that, and they take it seriously. then they have one of the driest most boring info dumps I've ever seen in a transformers show, then another flashback to show how Megatron stole the Allspark from Shockwave's lab(remember that part because it will get much stupider later) only to then just replay the entire fight from the start of the episode, like in full??? there's no extra context or new scenes or anything, I think they literally just wanted to fill time.
so then, after all of that, turns out, Shockwave's lab was right behind the park all along! and nobody bothered to like, clean it out??? Shockwave is just in there in cryo stasis???? and its not like this was a secret lab, Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee they all knew it was there, and after all these years nobody thought to remove the ARMY OF PROTOFORMS from there, or Shockwave himself. so he wakes up and they fight and whatever. Megatron wins episode end.
but thats just an example of how scuffed the worldbuilding and setup in this show is, there's some decent ideas in there but nothing is fleshed out, and it all feels incredibly small in a bad way. they also have a habit of just introducing characters only to immediately discard or forget about them completely. alot of the cast that aren't the new Terrans just kind of show up every now and then, I don't think Optimus was even in this 2nd batch at all so far, but I still haven't watched the Season finale(?) which is like 40 minutes long, but I'm not looking forward to it.
 
I ordered a tarn after seeing you could still order it on some places though it's not in stock fucking anywhere because scalpers just eat up the stock in mere minutes each time it goes up in stock anywhere right now despite the figure not even being rare or exclusive, but one of the fucking first wave of the year. I wonder Tarn will eventually play out like Jhiaxus did where he was scalped and in insane high demand at first but is now just the only voyager figure ever in stock with a surprising lack of buyers despite the appealing character design and overall quality compared to the other figures in the wave it's from. Hopefully it doesn't end up like titans return overlord where I end up waiting TOO long and it starts getting scalped a few years after release but I genuinely do want to get Jhiaxus, just one from the batches with less noticable paint defects and less intense variant of the weird greenish hue to the plastic in his leg joints.Also there's the head QC issue on some copies where it's just loose as fuck.

Anyways, I got around to taking some pictures I mentioned I would earlier, once again no really photogenic desktop or counter in the whole goddamn house so I made due taking photos with the flash on at 1 in the morning using the Mindbender box as a somewhat nonsensical but at least not bland backdrop. Said it a good few times before and I'll say it again, fuck the people in charge of gi joe right now for relegating the sole release of fan favorite main characters as event exclusives. Thank fucking god I'm not a completionist and just go for shit that speaks to me aesthetically.


2 of the same guy hot rod or shot.JPG
So I noticed I forgot to mention some other minor shit about the new Hot shot remake that bugs me, which is the fact that they made him this weird size that doesn't really scale properly with anything. He's a LOT shorter than the deluxe sized voyager hot rod (which suffers from the same weird lack of specific paint details) and RIDICULOUSLY shorter than a voyager scaled voyager. If they actually made him the proper standard deluxe size they'd probably be able to fix the weird improperly placed kibble issues, but They also molded his gun in red for some reason, meaning the peg doesn't blend as well as it could as some kind of space-ish hand guard. Also he's got the Jhiaxus situation where his leg joints are a completely different shade of red than the rest of him.
Too lazy to check if I've already said this in my last message but it's still super fucking weird to me that Hot shot became his own character despite blatantly being the armada anime's take on hot rod. Hot shot's double barrel targetmaster homage gun and the fact he's literally named hot rod in japan and a few other regions, combined with the fact that he becomes hot rod's colors is something that's always fucked with me since I was a kid and armada was actually first airing. I don't know who started the "oh he's bumblebee!" shit but whoever was responsible was either lying or stupid.


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Another interesting figure I've had since like last year and just got around to taking a photo of is this RED shockwave. He's got a lot of posability, but it's structured really weird, and the blast effects shit doesn't work right. Weirdly he's the exact same size as siege shockwave but bulkier by a little bit, at least going by online comparisons I found. Since I missed on siege shockwave despite it shelfwarming for a few years and me wanting and waiting for it to go on discount only to never get it and watch the price spike to an unreasonable ass $76, I think it's only logical that a non-transforming spinoff figure that actually gels with the aesthetics of the cel shaded figures for $20-ish dollars is a better choice, even with the weird qc and lack of an alt mode. it's nice that he's actually SCALED to what the red series advertises itself as unlike basically any other figure in the line. I'm glad I found it in a store by some miracle because it's another figure scalpers have been hounding for some reason.

Alright I'm gonna stop rambling about this dumb shit and get some fucking rest, tired as shit while writing this down lmao.
 
Too lazy to check if I've already said this in my last message but it's still super fucking weird to me that Hot shot became his own character despite blatantly being the armada anime's take on hot rod. Hot shot's double barrel targetmaster homage gun and the fact he's literally named hot rod in japan and a few other regions, combined with the fact that he becomes hot rod's colors is something that's always fucked with me since I was a kid and armada was actually first airing. I don't know who started the "oh he's bumblebee!" shit but whoever was responsible was either lying or stupid.
iirc Archer said he wanted to call him Bumblebee but they couldn't secure the name at the time. his working title in development was literally just "yellow car", and the Hot Rod name is actually a bit misleading because it was the first time Japan had ever used it, Hot Rod was called Hot Rodimus in Japan, they did the same thing with Tidal Wave being called Shockwave. just a weird roundabout way to create new characters for their market while also using previously Hasbro-exclusive names.
while the Hot Rod inspiration is very obviously there, I think its worth noting that they kind of just did that alot back then. Sideburn/Speedbreaker received a very Hot Rod looking repaint as his Super Mode 2 years before, there's Excellion/Red Excilion who are pretty obvious Hot Rod homages, so the Powerlinx/Super Mode repaint of Hot Shot isn't that odd imo.
there's also Energon Rodimus(who fucking sucks btw) whos more blatantly a reference to G1 Rodimus.
 
iirc Archer said he wanted to call him Bumblebee but they couldn't secure the name at the time. his working title in development was literally just "yellow car", and the Hot Rod name is actually a bit misleading because it was the first time Japan had ever used it, Hot Rod was called Hot Rodimus in Japan, they did the same thing with Tidal Wave being called Shockwave. just a weird roundabout way to create new characters for their market while also using previously Hasbro-exclusive names.
while the Hot Rod inspiration is very obviously there, I think its worth noting that they kind of just did that alot back then. Sideburn/Speedbreaker received a very Hot Rod looking repaint as his Super Mode 2 years before, there's Excellion/Red Excilion who are pretty obvious Hot Rod homages, so the Powerlinx/Super Mode repaint of Hot Shot isn't that odd imo.
there's also Energon Rodimus(who fucking sucks btw) whos more blatantly a reference to G1 Rodimus.
Thing is There's nothing "bumblebee-like" about him aside from the fact that his main color is yellow. The name scheme for transformers around that time is really odd in general, with a more infamous case being the Black Convoy/Scourge/Nemesis prime name carousel, though it's not the same since g1 hot rod was called Rodimus in Japan which rod could easily be a shortform version of. He's literally just a reverse-colored hot rod, his personality is the same as Hot rod, His powered up color-scheme is just g1 hot rod's and at one point he gets the Matrix. It's a lot more than mere homages at play here, it's a guy with an incredibly similar name behaving the same. It gets a bit fucky after energon when rodimus shows up but everything gets a bit fucky in energon. As fucking weird as hot shot's energon redesign is you can still see the g1 hot rod inspiration in it if you compare it to the g1 toy, specifically the head. There's also the alternate later colorscheme he gets where it's a remixed version of hot rod with more silver added. It's basically if you turned hot rod and rodimus prime into two separate guys.

Tying back to the weird name shit Kinda hoping a little with all these remakes they eventually make a voyager scaled Armada Scavenger considering the original figure didn't even have proper legs due to the walking gimmick. It's a cool gimmick but not too good for dynamic action poses.
 
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I don't really see it aside from the fact the pretender shell has red pants. Hot shot's head is literally just a bulked up yellow g1 hot rod with an external visor. I also just noticed this somehow for the first time ever but he's got those little exhaust bits on the back of his forearms g1 hot rod has as well. Well less "for the first time" but more now it's just registering to me as another thing that he shares with g1 hot rod.

EDIT: I forgot to mention this but I missed the fact they revealed Toxitron is getting a walmart exclusive release. Unfortunately not a release of the actual unreleased figure but yet another homage like we've been getting over the last decade or so with the subscription service store and convention exclusive toxitrons. However this is a direct recolor of the new g2 prime mold so it's the closest to the original design we're probably gonna see. Actual g2 prime's mold seems to be reserved for the really weird recolors like that overpriced year of the goat one that didn't sell well and nothing else.

EDITx2: Apparently every single figure in the next walmart exclusive wave coming up this is from are repaints of the more recent figures based on unreleased repaints from around the g2 era so that's pretty neat. If it's like any of the other waves i'm barely going to see the one's I'm interested in actually stocked ever.
 
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that I really don't see. hes got a very distinct kind of retarded round head with no neck and big goggly eyes.
He has a neck but it's kinda a turtleneck kinda look.
Unrelated to hot shot but going back to the "Figures I've wanted to get but haven't pulled the trigger on because money issue" I found a discounted Jhiaxus online and decided to take my chances if it's one of the batches with loose necks or the greener crotch joints. I've noticed online people say the greenish crotch shit is another case of the weird severe yellowing afflicting some of some of the plastics, but Jhiaxus' crotch joints are the only parts that are like that and it's even like that in the actual stock photos if you look close enough. Just hoping the paint isn't fucked up like I've seen some batches have. Knowing my luck I'll get all 3 issues I'm trying to avoid despite the issue being an early batch problem.

EDIT: apparently Jhiaxus is arriving today according to tracking estimates, only time will tell if that's bullshit or not. Gonna find out sooner or later how fucked I am in the QC gamble.
 
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The constant QC issues and degradation in plastic quality are the main reason I've just stopped bothering with current Hasbro stuff. I did order a Lio Convoy this week just because I needed something to reach 50$ for free shipping. hoping its not a disaster, I'll probably have to paint the lion face because it looks so fucking weird and dead.
 
Jhiaxus arrived and the head/knee joints aren't super loose thankfully. However I got one of the batches with the slightly greener hip joints, though they all seem to have that to varying degrees.
I also got some minor at a glance but really fucking clear at close up paint defects that bother the shit out of me.
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some of the paint on the head is scratched, probably due to the windowless packaging shit they now do, combined with the silver on the chest being misaligned, and I didn't notice this till looking at the photos I took, but it's got some glob of excess paint pooling on the little shoulder cannon/scouter thing he has that's severe enough that if I tried removing it it'd just fuck up the paint.
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I also got a bit of discoloration on the outer right leg, something I've seen on other copies talking about being "yellowing" along with the green hips, but i think this specific case is so frequent that it's some kinda factory oil stain.
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The constant QC issues and degradation in plastic quality are the main reason I've just stopped bothering with current Hasbro stuff. I did order a Lio Convoy this week just because I needed something to reach 50$ for free shipping. hoping its not a disaster, I'll probably have to paint the lion face because it looks so fucking weird and dead.
The constant rising prices make it worse. within the span of a few short years we've gone from 25 dollars to nearly 40 dollars without discount for fucking voyagers, most of which are now the height of a larger deluxe. Their reasoning for this was better quality control and collector focus shit, and then the cheapening of the packaging was to "save the environment".
I've noticed in the most recent batches of preorder listings for studio series stuff it's shifted from that thing talking about collectors and making the definitive versions of shit to constantly slapping "8 YEAR OLD BOYS" everywhere the other nouns about fans or collectors used to be. It's really weird because while yeah transformers is a thing that's mainly marketed to kids their whole thing was they split up their design teams to have one doing the explicitly kid focused stuff and one doing the stuff for a mix of older kids and longtime fans. I haven't noticed anyone else talking about this but then again I don't really go too deep into places where people normally talk about this kinda shit lmao.

It's still odd, they're making heavily engineered figures with cheap plastic, and are now trying to retroactively frame ALL the figures they're putting out aside from the fucking 500 dollar figures under the same age bracket of recommendation in their product descriptions.. We've come so fucking far from beast wars and armada in terms of articulation and engineering, yet gone so fucking ass backwards with plastic quality, gimmicks, and QC that it's a joke. The company's higher ups, manufacturing, and actual designers seem to be at odds with each other more than ever.

Tarn update that ties into this all: Haven't gotten it shipped yet, but from reviews I found out it has a space that'd normally have rolling wheels, but it instead has static knubs in the SHAPE of rolling wheels, meaning they were going to give the tank the "fake treads with rolling wheels" thing they do all the time but then removed it last second so they didn't have to pay for the production of fucking tiny plastic rollers. The cheapness is bordering on nonsensical lately. Kinda rambling again but that's what happens when I'm multitasking trying to give an update on shit as well as opinions on the weird fucking state of things with these figures.
 
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I goddamn hate cyberverse. The visuals are shit. The writing is shit, and it's fans are fucking garbage people. I would rather watch goddamn energon then cyberverse.
I just want giant robots in an endless war, not this navel gazing retardation.

In related news:
I went to TF-con. Lots of cool folks, but no pepsibotimus to troll IRL this year. The YouTuber panel on the second day was filled with literal who's
It was: skinny nerd, vange1us, some limey fruit, troon 1 and troon 2, and big based black kid.

I met jobby as well. very nice guy, much taller than expected.
It’s what happens when you let tumblr users make transformers
 
I found a titans return overlord new in box for roughly slightly above MSRP in a hobby shop I haven't been to in a while but I passed him up due to not wanting to bother the guy who was dealing with some other stuff. I've been kicking myself int he ass since then because I KNOW some fucking is gonna buy it and put it on ebay for over 100 with how prices for shit from a few years ago is right now online.

Anyways, the tarn guy arrived today (technically yesterday now) and he had some weird glob paint defects on him like Jhiaxus did, but also much like Jhiaxus he's fucking perfect otherwise. I never did get around to reading the fucking thing he's from but the same thing is technically true for jhiaxus as well because of the few transformers marvel comics i ever got the chance to read I don't think I ever got the ones with Jhiaxus in them. I know enough about both of these guys via out of context comic page segments involving them and plot summaries that they're fucking great characters and they both areon the listof "things to read sometime if possible when i remember and have nothing else i'm up to". They should go and delve into some of the even more obscure comics only fuckers sometime like the octus guy that's just a dude with like six arms that only shows up in a UK exclusive issue of the marvel comics I kinda want to see what they'd do with a fucker like that. and how they'd make the arms work.
I'm tired as shit so I'll get to sending tarn pics tomorrow.

EDIT: I fucking forgot the 6 armed fucker I mentioned that i've known about via people knowledgable about the comics occasionally bringing him up over the last 2 decades was part of a 3 guy crew. They could probably do a box set of them or some shit like they did with orion pax and alpha trion, but hopefully not web event exclusive lmao.The other guys got cool designs that look like they'd all turn into some fucked up modded construction vehicles. I know octus' implied alt mode that's never shown is based on a dalek but I kinda think if his teams gonna be uniform it's gonna be some mad max esque construction shit.
 
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I knew the designs for the characters was a red flag, but the best way I can describe this show is that it feels more like a poorly written 17-year old they/them's fanfiction about how they would imagine the end of the Cybertronian War, then again this is on Amazon Prime.

Buy our toys.
 
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I knew the designs for the characters was a red flag, but the best way I can describe this show is that it feels more like a poorly written 17-year old they/them's fanfiction about how they would imagine the end of the Cybertronian War, then again this is on Amazon Prime.

Buy our toys.
It's on Paramount Plus/Hulu here
 
I knew the designs for the characters was a red flag, but the best way I can describe this show is that it feels more like a poorly written 17-year old they/them's fanfiction about how they would imagine the end of the Cybertronian War, then again this is on Amazon Prime.

Buy our toys.
the best part about Nightshade is his toy is going to be fucking awful due to how poor his design is, there's literally nothing from the Owl anywhere on the robot. its like they designed him as a pretender beast or something.
its kind of unfortunate because I actually really like the Owl mode, its probably the only memorable alt mode from this show so far, but it all just magics away to make a very bland robot that looks like its trying to imitate 70s super robots instead of a transformer.
 
The robots are called transformers because they transform into cars
transformers doesn't just transform into cars. they also transform into many objects. be it everyday objects we see and use (i.e vending machine, hair dryer, TV, etc). hence why they're called transformers. it's because they transform into things.
 
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