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Well, at the very least, we didn't do it.
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I've always thought, in the context of the revelation (i.e. at the height of the reunion quest, et al.), Barb finally just said "None o' those gals was your 'gal pals', yer Father made a deal wit them und the principal to be yer friends and keep you from gettin' beat up too much. They was nice girls but they don't think about you no more.' because she was sick and tired of hearing him moan and sigh over his lost 'twu wuv' Kellie Andes and his high school bullshit. It seems like something she'd do to shut him up.
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That would be a very Barb like thing to do.
Fattys spent his whole life hiding from the truth, he had to learn sooner or later and for his sake I hope it's sooner because he's running out of time.
He needs someone whose authority/honesty he can't deny to tell him the plain truth about his life (Someone like a Gal-pal) to his face in a way he can't avoid.
The longer he clings to these sad little fantasies of his the harder it will be for him to recover.
He's already 30+ he can't wait forever.
Fattys spent his whole life hiding from the truth, he had to learn sooner or later and for his sake I hope it's sooner because he's running out of time.
He needs someone whose authority/honesty he can't deny to tell him the plain truth about his life (Someone like a Gal-pal) to his face in a way he can't avoid.
The longer he clings to these sad little fantasies of his the harder it will be for him to recover.
He's already 30+ he can't wait forever.
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Maybe. I agree that Chris has a lot of beliefs that are destructive. But I tend to think that it would do more harm than good if he "saw the truth" all at once. The truth about his life is fairly devastating, and he has built a wall of delusions that protect himself from it.
It would be great if some of the more harmfull walls could be taken down so he could make small improvements. But if they all crumbled at once, I think it might be too big of a blow.
Basically, I am trying to say Rome wasn't built in a day. I don't think it is particularly likely that Chris' life in 10 or 15 years will be a lot happier than it is now. But if it is going to be, the most likely path is a series of small steps towards gaining the level of independence he can handle, and getting appropriate support for the stuff he needs help for.
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I also think that Barb dropped the gal pal reveal bomb on Chris in order to solidify her position / influence over him. Barb has always reinforced the idea that is was her and Chris against the big, bad, mean old world.
I don't believe that Barb wants Chris to have friends because that would loosen her grip on him somewhat. The only reason I believe she tolerates Anna is because Anna lives far enough away that she's not a threat.
Chris has tried to get out and socialize. only to be thwarted by Barb at every turn.
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That's fucked up, mang.
Is it possible she just wants to protect him from evil bully influences from outside or can we safely assume it's primarily an egotistical attitude born out of malice?
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Although I have to largely agree with you here, she seemed cool with Catie and Al. Why was that different.
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On a whim, I'd say she was assessing their possible future value. By being nice and invoking pity, she can see if they are going to be useful for her later on. If she was hostile, that wouldn't work...
Just one post above yours, I asked if Barb was severing Chris' ties with other people out of malice, or if it's just her being overprotective. Now I realize: If she was overprotective, she would have been more suspicious of Catie and Al. It seems she just doesn't want people outside her sphere of influence breaking up her grasp on Chrishun while she's totally ok with trying to bind people to her precious
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In my opinion, the right thing to do is to troll, not for lulz, but in hopes the person will eventually reflect upon themselves and change themselves for the better. Still, I can't deny that lulz are an amazing bonus. ; p
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Does Barb even know who Anna is? She may have acknowledged her in an email from Chris that I didn't read, but I've always been under the impression that Barb knows nothing about what Chris does online other than get people to mail him weird things.
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I suspect it's a combination of things. For one, I think Barb is insecure and afraid of being alone, and she knows that without Chris, she doesn't have anyone else in her life. (I have some sympathy with her here.)
Barb could, however, let Chris off the leash every once in awhile. Chris has pretty much said that he's at his mother's beck and call. There's really very little danger of him abandoning her (he's equally insecure and afraid of being alone) and he deserves to get out and have some opportunity the socialize. There have been a number of social opportunities where Chris could have gone out and enjoyed himself (maybe even made a friend or two) but Barb fucked it up for him.
Because I think, crazy though she may be, Barb realized that things wouldn't work out between Catie and Chris. Barb is only too well aware of Chris's track record where relationships are concerned. For all we know, she was relieved to find out that Catie was a troll.
Barb may have even suspected that Catie was a troll from the beginning, but probably wouldn't have said anything unless Catie became a credible threat.
She knows who Anna is, they may have even spoken at some point, but I don't know how much contact (if any) Barb has with her now.
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I missed this. When did Chris find out Catie is a troll?
I mean, I know that he could have found out easily by looking here, but I didn't think he paid much attention to the posts here. Did he acknowledge that she is a troll?
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Found out is generous, he decided she was a troll after she stopped putting up with his bullshit.
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"The only gal-pal you need is sittin' right here in front of you. Now why don't you go get momma a q-sand from Sheetz?
"She may justify the latter impulse with the former excuse.
It kind of makes me wonder whose idea it was for her to go as Chris' date to the prom.
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Not that there isn't a selfish component. But I think that in part, she is trying to act in Chris best interest, but doesn't really know how. She knows bad things sometimes happen to Chris if he goes out into the world and/or tries to make friends. So she sees those as potential threats. To Chris, not just to her. She hasn't figured out, or hasn't bothered to figure out, which are threats and which aren't, so she keeps him on a ridiculously tight leash.
Basically, this. But I get the sense she believes the a lot of the idea she is reinforcing.
Not that she doesn't also want to keep Chris close for selfish reasons. But I think she also wants to keep him close because she sees that as the best way to protect him.
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How does she typically interfere with Chris' attempts to go out and socialize?
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I'm curious about this too. Maybe she uses his paranoia against him?
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That's more of an ideal view of Barb than is justified by the evidence.
I think it's more likely that she is aware that she'd be suffocating a normal person, but she doesn't think it matters to Chris because he's not a real adult who deserves real consideration.
For example, she doesn't consider random troll dates to be a threat.
Barb constantly manipulates people. This is evident in her treatment of Cole and how she lied about who was his father. Then there is the alienation from her own family, apparently started when she tried to have an affair with her brother-in-law (Aunt Corina's husband?). Judging by Cole and Chris' recollections of their childhood, Barb was a manipulative bitch that cared more about being a drunken bar floozie instead of a mother with responsibilities.
It's clear that Barb is a white trash ex-alcoholic who uses other people to get what she wants. To her, Chris is a pawn used to fend off interactions with the outside world while she sits on her fat ass amid the ever-growing Hoard. She's extremely possessive of Chris because at this point he's the only thing she's got. Chris being Chris, it's very easy to manipulate him from having any sort of meaningful live outside 14BC.
Frankly, if Chris had a better mother he probably wouldn't be the lolcow he is today. Not sure if that's a good thing or not, but all I know is that Barb is a shitty human being that shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce in the first place. I'm sure no one will shed a tear when the old bitch finally kicks the bucket, apart from Chris.
It's clear that Barb is a white trash ex-alcoholic who uses other people to get what she wants. To her, Chris is a pawn used to fend off interactions with the outside world while she sits on her fat ass amid the ever-growing Hoard. She's extremely possessive of Chris because at this point he's the only thing she's got. Chris being Chris, it's very easy to manipulate him from having any sort of meaningful live outside 14BC.
Frankly, if Chris had a better mother he probably wouldn't be the lolcow he is today. Not sure if that's a good thing or not, but all I know is that Barb is a shitty human being that shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce in the first place. I'm sure no one will shed a tear when the old bitch finally kicks the bucket, apart from Chris.