Turning Red thread

[SteelPlatedHeart]

You can't give your characters cartoony calarts bean mouth proportions and then give them uber realistic details & textures. I dislike this trend & it makes everything look so creepy & uncanny-valley like

That’s exactly what was bothering me about the animation. The expressions are impressive and all, but they do not fit with the overall style of the movie. It’s a bad blend.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Finally a Pixar film for Jonathan Yaniv.

Anyways I don't think I've seen a Pixar film so astro-turfed as this, absolutely no one seems to know it exists or want to watch it.

 

[Krystal]

I admit I'm a little disappointed in the bean mouth realism look for both Luca and this movie. I feel like they should have went with Coco's style which imo had a nice blend of the two.

 

[starborn427614]

I admit I'm a little disappointed in the bean mouth realism look for both Luca and this movie. I feel like they should have went with Coco's style which imo had a nice blend of the two.
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Coco is definitely a beautiful film, but in regards to Turning Red they were at least pretty open about it being a Japanese homage to the likes of Ghibli. I don't know why Luca had to look the way it did though.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Most likely, at the very least John Lasseter's absence starting to show. But judging by the fact that Lightyear is getting a theatrical release and this one got booted to streaming, they clearly still know which side the bread is buttered on.

Lasseter was a fucking weirdo but imo thats all he was. He didn't deserve to get nearly blacklisted for that shit. He didn't rape and abuse, the worst thing he did was put his hands on someones legs, but in the sense of "listen, I'm here to tell you something" sort of way, not the "I'm gonna finger fuck you" sort of way.

 

[Archeops]

So... How well does the plot of the junior novelization and Little Golden Book pair up with the actual film?

...but in regards to Turning Red they were at least pretty open about it being a Japanese homage to the likes of Ghibli.

Now that's just plain insulting to Studio Ghibli, there's just something in the style (and writing) that's present Japanese animation but near-impossible to imitate here in the States.

And don't get me started on the Aardman comparisons since that one's more of a technical aspect in regards to claymation/stop-motion animation in general.

Lasseter was a fucking weirdo but imo thats all he was. He didn't deserve to get nearly blacklisted for that shit. He didn't rape and abuse, the worst thing he did was put his hands on someones legs, but in the sense of "listen, I'm here to tell you something" sort of way, not the "I'm gonna finger fuck you" sort of way.

Agreed but he REALLY should've paid attention to the social tends in the animation industry and adjusting his behavior depending on the employees he's interacting with. No amount of corporate brotherhood or what-have-you could've prevented the studio from getting bit in the ass by the hyper-sensitive creatives coming into the industry, let alone stopped his expulsion from the studio.

 

[starborn427614]

So... How well does the plot of the junior novelization and Little Golden Book pair up with the actual film?

If you're referring to the twerking scene then it's the same. It's played for laughs and not really at all like that one instance in Nu-PPG.

 

[Muttnik]

Okay so I watched it. It's pretty bad. Not Good Dinosaur/Cars 2 bad but extremely dated, alienating, dull, and flat in sections where it should be emotional.

The animation is very ugly. For a movie celebrating diversity, a lot of the poc characters are designed pretty racist. Voice acting is pretty bad. The main lead is REALLY flat and shouts most of her lines. The plot has very little weight altogether. It doesn't say anything meaningful about life other than GO BE POPULAR AND BRATTY KIDS or not to smother your children. It just feels very vapid, very pandering, and very boring.

 

[Archeops]

If you're referring to the twerking scene then it's the same. It's played for laughs and not really at all like that one instance in Nu-PPG.

Eww, played for laughs or otherwise you still shouldn’t put a scene like that into a film that’s set in early 2000’s. I suppose that this scene, along with how boy-crazy the MCs are, is where critics reviewing the film got that “horny” angle from.

Okay so I watched it. It's pretty bad. Not Good Dinosaur/Cars 2 bad but extremely dated, alienating, dull, and flat in sections where it should be emotional.

The animation is very ugly. For a movie celebrating diversity, a lot of the poc characters are designed pretty racist. Voice acting is pretty bad. The main lead is REALLY flat and shouts most of her lines. The plot has very little weight altogether. It doesn't say anything meaningful about life other than GO BE POPULAR AND BRATTY KIDS or not to smother your children. It just feels very vapid, very pandering, and very boring.

I had a feeling that was the case, these newer “written directly from the director’s experiences growing up” films that Pixar’s been churning out lately are the kinds of films that do well with the Twitter crowd but would hit the middle-ground if it released in theaters.

 

[Muttnik]

Also the climax of the film features our main character shaking and smacking her ass at her mother (in furry form but yeaaaaah oof). Make of that what you will.

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

Some of the animation, like when the dad was cooking, was beautiful. I'm a sucker for traditional East Asian music, so I liked that too. Honestly, did not care for the plot. I literally finished it like, an hour ago, and barely remember what I saw. Based on the trailers, I thought the mom was going to be incredibly overbearing, but she didn't really do anything wrong. You guys get the vibe that a lot of recent Pixar movies don't really feel like Pixar movies? I picture Pixar, and I picture Toy Story, Up, Wall-E, The Incredibles, but the newer ones are just lacking something that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it really does boils down to the SOUL vs soulless meme

 

[Valstrax]

>The thread isn't called "Turning Thread"
0/10

 

[Marissa Moira]

Also the climax of the film features our main character shaking and smacking her ass at her mother (in furry form but yeaaaaah oof). Make of that what you will.

It's like someone thought having Totoro doing a pole dance would be funny because LOLFAT

Some of the animation, like when the dad was cooking, was beautiful. I'm a sucker for traditional East Asian music, so I liked that too. Honestly, did not care for the plot. I literally finished it like, an hour ago, and barely remember what I saw. Based on the trailers, I thought the mom was going to be incredibly overbearing, but she didn't really do anything wrong. You guys get the vibe that a lot of recent Pixar movies don't really feel like Pixar movies? I picture Pixar, and I picture Toy Story, Up, Wall-E, The Incredibles, but the newer ones are just lacking something that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it really does boils down to the SOUL vs soulless meme

They lack drive and direction and will meander around essentially wasting time. Onward and Raya did the same thing.

They need a to really tighten up the script and get rid of useless scenes. They have a ton of interactions that seem like sitcom humor in many of their movies now that basically don't lead anywhere. It's a bunch of bullshit that's supposed to make the character "relatable" but rather than progressing through their arc it's a bunch of THEYRE JUST LIKE US shit.

 

[Bolo]

Saw it, and what I got is what most people will get it from this, it is a nice little movie about family, it will keep the kids entretained, but it won't make much of a impact.

What can I say, mediocre effort gets mediocre opinion.

It is definitely a movie made by a bunch of mid-30's who grew up watching 90's anime, that's for sure. And it insits itself on that quirky humor that was oh so very popular in the early 2010's, you know, with the cut aways for exagerated expressions of humor and even some anime-esque gags, like I said, a bunch of mid to late 30's who grew up with 90's anime.

Problem is this movie has some identity issues. Influences are fine, no one produces anything out in a vaccum, but when they are laid up this thick amidst some of the more traditional western storytelling this movie also wants to have, it doesn't gel very well. Maybe it could be done better, but Turning Red doesn't quite pull it off.

And by the end the movie kinda gives up and wants to do the usual Pixar heart string puller they are known for, but, again, it doesn't pull it off, because the foundation of the movie, the mother daughter relationship just doesn't manage to get to the emotional heights the movie think it does to pay it off. Same thing happenend to the other Mother/Daughter pixar movie, Brave.

And we just had a recent movie with similiar theme of a parent and Child learning to understand each other and it was done SO much better, Sony's The Mitchells vs The Machines, that makes Turning Red look much worse for it.

But to give some credit, I think the whole puberty theme was nice, nothing risque besides some period joke, but it does paint the protagonist in a sympathetic light to show her going throught those confusing years.

And symphaty is something the main girl need on this movie because I don't know what happened, but her voice actor is just screaming every line she had, what the hell was up with that? The actress has barely any credit under her belt, and my god, it shows. The hell happened here, i know nepotism and friends hiring friends is something of a problem that is happening in Disney and Burbank animation in general, but fuck me, this isn't a small thing, they should have dome some decent casting for their main character.

Other problem is what other here already posted, mostly some meandering scenes that don't really go no where.

i think it is unfair to ask Pixar to have the same home runners from their glory days, in terms of animation and storytelling, it was another whole world back then, and the right people at the right time managed to make a revolution.

Now, decades latter, Pixar has a name and reputation to uphold, and by that same need to uphold that, it does fall back too much on their own reliable themes and heart string pullers for their own good.

Competent work made by competent artists but without a spark to make it special. That seems to be the problem with Disney and Pixar right now, it has the best artisans that money can hire, but it is lacking vision.

But I think that is good enough for Disney/Pixar, honestly, I would be fine if kept being just the reliable "ok movie" makers, that is what main stream is for, to dish out the "snikers" candy bars of animation, we always find better things elsewhere now days.

 

[Quijibo69]

Watched it up until the part it got super retarded, ripped off Ghostbusters and everyone turned back into a red panda. This movie is pretty much if you blended The Mitchells Vs. The Machines, Wish Dragon, Carrie and the Grub Hub ad in a bland blender. The part at the begin of the move where Man Ling or whatever was drawing the store clerk made me think she was flapping to porn. It was kinda creeping me out. Pro tip: To make the movie more interesting insert the word pussy every time they say the word panda.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It is definitely a movie made by a bunch of mid-30's who grew up watching 90's anime, that's for sure.

This alone is why I won't watch this movie. Not that Americans/Canadians are unable to do proper homage to anime, but there's something about female creators that makes their anime homages much more obnoxious compared to how Ciro Nieli, Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko did their homages.

 

[Bolo]

This alone is why I won't watch this movie. Not that Americans/Canadians are unable to do proper homage to anime, but there's something about female creators that makes their anime homages much more obnoxious compared to how Ciro Nieli, Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko did their homages.

I guess, I don't know much about female animators and anime homages, I know they all do Sailor Moon fan art and Magical Girl Utena and insist that they are the first ones to like it before any other girl... I just don't get it.

But honestly, I didn't find it that bad. If I had to go a bit more meaner than what I posted before, what is really obnoxious about this movie is the semi-autobiographical nature of the flick.

This movie was writen and directed by Domee Shi, a 34 year old Chinese-Canadian woman who went to sheridan college (Calarts for Canadians) and started at pixar at the age of 22. You get to see this type a lot in the Burbank area of animation, 1st or 2nd asian immigrant generation, overachiever in school with tiger moms, lots of skill, hard workers but stiff thinkers.

So, when came time for Shi to get her first theatrical release, she made it about herself, and while the kids might have fun with the big red panda, Not for a second of the movie I couldn't not see the very self-indulgent and rather self-impressed nature of the movie which can be very obnoxious.

Nothing against autobios, but unless you have real bite about your life that you have to share, then I don't give a shit about you rather basic bitch take about self-discovery, which turns out it is the moral of the movie, you go girl be yourself.

Not to mention that this isn't even the first time Shi uses her experience with overbearing parents, her other Pixar short was just about that as well.

So maybe, just a shot in the dark, that is why these animes references can be seen as obnoxious, when rather just being a cool homage in a well placed way, it can be just off putting when exercised in a forced, self indulgent way in the manner of "look at what I did watch as a kid, neat huh?"

 

[The Lawgiver]

If you're referring to the twerking scene then it's the same. It's played for laughs and not really at all like that one instance in Nu-PPG.

So it wasn't cut from the endof the movie like people were saying? the fucking grubhub delivery dance-esque thing is IN the movie?
...dios mio.

 

[ShoFuKan]

I saw it. It's horrible. I can't decide if this or Raya is the worst Pixar movie. Both made by Asian females, oddly enough.
Explain this to a child

Mei is doing the happy merchant hand rubbing.

She wants to be a furry.

That girl is 13.

Yay, anime reference. Exact same pose, which is why I recognized it.

There is backlash around a review which said this movie was made only for Domee Shi and her friends. That review got pulled down but it's essentially correct. This is a woman who has only story boarded for Pixar on Inside Out, Incredibles 2 and Toy Story 4. She had help writing the script but this is her black tank top movie, to quote RLM. She designed it from her childhood memories, AKA an Asian-Canadaian growing up in Toronto, added some bullshit mysticism that any mainland Chinese person was call her Gweilo because she uses her panda form to attract the actual Gweilo to the shrine.

Also notice the metal collar she wears at the end. The kind of thing a liberal would give a child they're grooming. Or Disney would put into their films to tell kids it's okay to wear fetish gear, even if you don't understand it.

This film is pretty bad though. Because it's a result of Disney's new diversity hiring practices that the main voice of Mei can't voice act and this is literally her first motion picture where she voice acts. It's why she's so high pitched.
I don't know what to say on all this, other than it's a passion project funded by a major corporation that's bad due to it's own ineptitude but has an advertising budget to convince the normies it's good/pump up that IMDB rating to at least a 7. This movie costed 175 million, Raya costed 100 million, according to the mouse.
At least the good thing is this movie won't be remembered except for Bottom 10 worst Pixar films ever.

Also the climax of the film features our main character shaking and smacking her ass at her mother (in furry form but yeaaaaah oof). Make of that what you will.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Mei is doing the happy merchant hand rubbing.

Oy vey! How can Disney promote such Anti-Semitism!