Turning Red thread

They lack drive and direction and will meander around essentially wasting time. Onward and Raya did the same thing.
I saw it. It's horrible. I can't decide if this or Raya is the worst Pixar movie. Both made by Asian females, oddly enough.
Raya was just from Disney and not Disney-Pixar, wasn't it?
 
Yeah I was fully expecting the mum to be on board. Not really a dealbreaker just feels a bit odd considering her and Mei both seemed to see eye to eye at the end.
I'm guessing that's just a byproduct of her upbringing and constant shame of her red panda self brought on by her family, she just couldn't let that go

Plus her red panda self is literally a kaiju so there's that
 
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Only thing that makes me turn “red” is the fact that we went from Finding Nemo and Toy Story to this

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Pedos are already defending this movie by saying it’s people uncomfortable with periods rather than the natural disgust at the metaphor and it’s implications within the movie. Family movie night was quickly turned to Mulan, my nieces liked that better.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around why this film needed to have so many kids shaking their asses. I'm not even a prude irl or anything like that. But it's not just the twerking scene. It's all over the film.

This shit is creepy.
My sister watched the movie because she’s slowly becoming a really normie wine aunt. Said the girl sells picture of her panda self, you know the thing the creator said was symbolic of puberty and bodily changes.
 
My sister watched the movie because she’s slowly becoming a really normie wine aunt. Said the girl sells picture of her panda self, you know the thing the creator said was symbolic of puberty and bodily changes.

Yeah, it's a pretty heavy plot point in the film. And it's portrayed in a positive light. They basically exploit the fuck out of the panda complete with merch, shirts, and even a stupid tourist trap at the end.

So either the panda's a metaphor for female puberty and it's essentially okay to exploit your developing body for cash, or it's just a panda and your woke points fall on its face.

Inside Out pulled off the idea of growing up much better and with a lot more taste imo. It didn't make things weird and uncomfortable.

This was basically a ripoff of Ginger Snaps, if anything. But that film was an intentional horror film and at no point did it feature sexy werewolf minors shaking their asses.
 
Just saw the damn thing out of morbid curiosity (pirated because fuck giving Disney any of my money) and these are some of my conclusions:
  • CalArts / Bean mouth needs to die, looks bad enough in 2D and disastrous in 3D. I don't think I've grimaced to a movie as much as I did to this one, the characters are repulsive to look at.
  • Pixar's decline is well underway. They may complain about getting their movies dumped on Disney+ is a disservice to them, no it isn't. Had this movie gotten a theatrical release it would have bombed. The quality of the writing is not movie quality, it is Direct-to-Video tier at best.
  • Little appeal, narrow target. Way too focused on girl-grows-up and puberty themes + overbearing parent trope.
  • Most of the plot is basically "Teen Wolf".
Overall: Meh. - Saturday Morning Cartoon episode out of 10

Pixar is on autopilot not caring whether or not their movies break any new narrative ground or push the technical envelope. Feels like other animation studios have caught up to them only by virtue of Pixar's faltering. Instead of going for new, fresh and experimental visuals the movie goes for the overused and standardized bean mouth look that is so commonplace now in American animation, and I have to insist on this point, it is tired, unappealing and boring to look at.

I hope whatever new feature length movies that come out of Skydance Studios under the direction of John Lasseter kick Pixar's shit in as karmic retribution for the way he was so unceremoniously dismissed, smeared and cancelled.
 
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Parents and a couple of my younger brothers watched it last night, and I think they enjoyed themselves, but I dunno. Mom didn't really look like she was liking it the few times I went downstairs, but that may have been due to the anime influences and she's made it perfectly clear she despises anime.

And they were utterly baffled that I didn't want to watch this movie simply because "It's got the anime look, why didn't you want to watch?" and they couldn't grasp that I thought it was an ugly-looking movie, and that the anime look very rarely looks good in 3D. Which they even thought it looked weird, Mom actually compared it to the Teen Titans cartoon (probably meant Go!, but maybe she was stating it was the 2002 series), but they still were confused at my refusal even when I explained myself.

*sigh* It's just all so tiresome.
 
This was basically a ripoff of Ginger Snaps, if anything. But that film was an intentional horror film and at no point did it feature sexy werewolf minors shaking their asses.
I couldn't help but think of Ginger Snaps while I was watching lol. Ginger Snaps is overtly sexual though. There's no twerking but they show Ginger growing six titties down her stomach.

I personally don't have a whole lot of strong opinions about Turning Red, except the characters are obnoxious, especially the main girl and the story was really weak. Also made me feel sort of old, I'm a few years younger than the MC but it's still weird to see movies that look back on the 2000s.
I didn't hate all the character designs, the mom looked okay but most of them were uuuuuuuuuuuuugly.
 
Well it lives up to it's name

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Only thing that makes me turn “red” is the fact that we went from Finding Nemo and Toy Story to this

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They fired the weird animation autist because he was a weird autist. Then they replaced him with people with experience in marketing.

You could probably watch Hey Arnold and have a better time with the same themes. It's the same mistake that Eisner made thinking you have a repeatable formula and then switching out the same parts for different colored ones to appeal to different demographics. While there are guidelines like with what Joseph Campbell established with The Hero's Journey, it's not something that can be churned out by machine algorithm and be set to autopilot.
 
I hope whatever new feature length movies that come out of Skydance Studios under the direction of John Lasseter kick Pixar's shit in as karmic retribution for the way he was so unceremoniously dismissed, smeared and cancelled.
What do you get when you cross an legendary animation visionary with a studio that abandons him and smears his good name?

Yeah fuck turning red, fuck the director (not really she's a total horse face) fuck disney,and fuck you pixar. You dug you're grave time to lay in it...I know what I said.
 
You know what Turning Red reminds me of? All the fucking moe shit that was coming out of Japan in the late 2000's. Suffers from the same awful pacing, shit scenes that went nowhere, and nothing but fucking pandering. Same garbage that solely existed for selling merchandise, but this one comes with a 3D rendered bean mouth.
 
You know, once upon a time you needed to make multiple high grossing films until the studio would greenlit your vanity project that's mostly about your life insecurities (in this case tiger mommy and having boys joke about her bloody underpants), nowadays they'll just burn down a 1/3 of a billion dollars just because you are an asian women.
I hope Hollywood Turns Red soon, either economically or in Minecraft.
 
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