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While i agree with him on some points I think he's seeing things that aren't there and jumping at shadows on others.


Movie still sucks though.
 

Pretty good take here, and the guy does have a nice point on how the panda thing doesn't quite gel with the rest of the story, which is indeed one of the main issues of the movie.

Still, I hope the crazies won't take this movie over, even if it isn't all that good, a B- at best, I don't think it deserves the same fate as shit like Steven Universe, where the discord around the show became so toxic that the show itself became irelevant over all the crazy talk around it.

For all it's faults, Turning Red does have a heart and although it is heavly autobiographical to the point that is does create a distance between it and the audience, well, it is a important movie for the people making it, i don't think they deserve the show they worked so hard to become yet just another talking point of the culture wars bullshit.
 
armoreddinnerjacket said:
I stopped watching the newer Pixar films when I couldn't pay attention to Monster's University. How does this one stack up?
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I guess the best way to describe it is that the critic score on rotten tomatoes is too high and the audience score is too low. It's somewhere in the middle, but you will probably enjoy it more if you can stomach cringe comedy because it's a coming-of-age movie.
 
Not watching it. I fell asleep trying to sit thru Frozen and that's apparently the best cartoon of all time* so it's just apparent to me that I've outgrown Disney cartoons unless they got that heroin grade nostalgia. I've watched Toy Story 1 with my nephew and had more fun seeing Buzz & Woody interact than he did.

So with that said I know I can't adequately critique the film and I know it's a Disney movie so really they couldn't get that fucked up since they still have stringent moral guidelines. But how am I not supposed to see the apparent plot detail that the lead sells images and merchandise of her "Panda" form as a fucking blatant symbolism that she's whoring herself out? The concept disturbs me and I wouldn't want children watching it. Am I just being a Boomer? Am I no better than parents who saw Pokemon and felt it was symbolism for cockfighting? Which it kinda is but it's so far removed from reality so who cares?
 
Cardenio said:
Not watching it. I fell asleep trying to sit thru Frozen and that's apparently the best cartoon of all time* so it's just apparent to me that I've outgrown Disney cartoons unless they got that heroin grade nostalgia. I've watched Toy Story 1 with my nephew and had more fun seeing Buzz & Woody interact than he did.

So with that said I know I can't adequately critique the film and I know it's a Disney movie so really they couldn't get that fucked up since they still have stringent moral guidelines. But how am I not supposed to see the apparent plot detail that the lead sells images and merchandise of her "Panda" form as a fucking blatant symbolism that she's whoring herself out? The concept disturbs me and I wouldn't want children watching it. Am I just being a Boomer? Am I no better than parents who saw Pokemon and felt it was symbolism for cockfighting? Which it kinda is but it's so far removed from reality so who cares?
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It's a big stretch. I'd liken it to someone selling drinks out of their locker or advertising having your homework done for a fee.
 
Muttnik said:
Not exactly. She uses the panda to sell merch so that they can go to a stupid boy bands concert. Wouldn't be bad if the panda wasn't a direct metaphor for female puberty.
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It amazes me that the movie went all in about "the panda is puberty" and then does this shit which is asking to be seen as glorifying selling nude pics.
 
starborn427614 said:
I'm interested to see where people will rank the film in a year or so. Soul was pretty decent but I dunno if I'd still rate it as highly as I did around the time it released.
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Will people even remember it in a year’s time? The only non-sequel movie from the last 10 years I see getting brought up from time to time is Coco, and that’s usually in the context of it actually being a good late-2010’s Pixar movie.

Stuff like Inside Out, Onward and Soul have mostly gone the way of The Good Dinosaur. I’d wager Turning Red will join them in a year’s time.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
the anime look very rarely looks good in 3D.
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You need to stylize your characters.
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Turing Red is deliberate in it's ugliness.
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For some reason meme edits about this film kept appearing in my Youtube recommendations even though I had never heard of this awful movie or clicked on anything related to it.
 
Gar For Archer said:
Will people even remember it in a year’s time? The only non-sequel movie from the last 10 years I see getting brought up from time to time is Coco, and that’s usually in the context of it actually being a good late-2010’s Pixar movie.

Stuff like Inside Out, Onward and Soul have mostly gone the way of The Good Dinosaur. I’d wager Turning Red will join them in a year’s time.
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What was wrong with Inside Out? I thought it was one of Pixar's better films in recent years.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
CalArts bean mouth shit (a knockoff attempt to look more like Ghibli, no doubt) is more blobby and simple, and it doesn't look good in 3D at all
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It can look fine in 3D, you just need to know what you are working with. I have seen both Steven and Adventure Time in 3D, and both are fine.

Just take a look at the updated Steven on the right for Multiversus. It is a pretty good model.

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