i love twisted metal that and vigilante 8 were my favorite things to play back in the day. twisted metal black was one of my favorites of the series. its such a shame they never got to make black 2 like they wanted and instead we got that trash fire 2012 one that ruined so much of what made the games fun to begin with. i would love to see a new game with more characters that does justice to the series.
TMPS3 was dogshit due to Sony.
Originally planned by both Eat Sleep Play & Sony as a small Xbox Live Arcade-Playstation equivalent, the retards at Sony kept requesting ESP to add more and more features to the point the "small title" now had to resemble a AAA game.
The problem? They started requesting these additions and changes near the end of production and weeks away from launch.
ESP told Sony they could accommodate them, but they'd need more time. Sony gave em 6 months and a 40% bigger budget.
We're lucky we got anything remotely working at all.
It's why the story feels so rushed and why we have barely any drivers; they were meant to be added over time and single player was never meant to be a thing. Sony wanted a AAA release with an indie budget and 10-turned-16 month timeframe.
Sony has been retarded for decades. Their saving grace is that Microsoft is so much more stupid than they are and that Nintendo doesn't care to compete for the enthusiast market anymore.
That's not quite true. When the PS3 Twisted Metal game was being made SONY assumed it would be like Twisted Metal Black and have a fully written arcade style story mode. Which was the central feature of Twisted Metal Black and one of its most talked about aspects in reviews. Where you would choose a driver and car, play through a series of battles, then unlock the story cinematic endings. It was the main selling point of the game.
Instead the executives and marketing teams preview the game and realize that it was a live service online game with no story mode whatsoever. And not a AAA title building off of Twisted Metal Black's assets or gameplay. The marketing team was under the assumption that the game was going to be like Twisted Metal Black and that its core gameplay mode would be story based. They were shocked that Eat Play Sleep had practically spent three years making an online only game. For a game that took close to four years to make it really is rather barren. Especially when you consider that it had every single previous Twisted Metal title to build off of and wasn't a series starting from scratch.
How? They commissioned a MultiPlayer only game. They never intended to have a single player until they realized MP alone was not going to drive interest beyond established TM fans.
Because that's what Sony wanted. Both Jaffe & Campbell have stated as such and it wasn't until later that they decided to add one.
Even Cuckapedia knows this:
Single-Player was the last thing added and it's why it's so trash.
I'm not as fond of TM:Black as others, partially because the european version had the cutscenes removed, and partially because I felt the cars got too tanky.
Twisted Metal 2 was my generation's World of Tanks, where you could blow up the Eiffel Tower!
IMO, the franchise died because it was too edgy for a remaster.
Twisted Metal 2 was my generation's World of Tanks, where you could blow up the Eiffel Tower!
IMO, the franchise died because it was too edgy for a remaster.
Twisted Metal 2 was a masterpiece of destruction. Its literally every young boy's fantasy of smashing and shooting cars. Made my dick hard before puberty, the only thing that got close to that since was Burnout Revenge.
I really fucked up here, mod do you mind merging my posts, promise it will be the last one.
Carmeddon was a fuckin banger. They did that remake in 2008 and it wasnt the same for me, I'd say the one thing Twisted Metal had over Carmageddon was the soundtrack.
True kiwis of culture. I was always about 4-5 years behind the gaming technology curb growing up and never really got to spend much time with the Twisted Metal series until I got a chance to emulate the older titles later in life. I did however play an absolute shit ton of Vigilante 8 and V8: Second Offense on the N64.
Those two games were surprisingly good for being the first two games Luxoflux released. I still go back and listen to the soundtrack every now and then for the nostalgia hit. Luxoflux is also the studio responsible for True Crime: Streets of LA and True Crime: New York City. It's a shame they got bought up and closed down by Activision like many good studios over the year.
Twisted Metal is childhood nostalgia incarnate but 4 was my favorite despite how polarizing the 989 game were
I loved it's more wacky sci fi like take on the series
also the drag queen character makes fags seethe so that's a bonus too
I played the first three Twisted Metal games and Twisted Metal: Black. I've been a fan of vehicle battle games ever since I first played Midway's Demolition Derby at the arcade.
Twisted Metal 2 and Black are probably my favorites. I also love the Vigilante 8 games and still have physical copies of those.
The last game I played with good vehicle destruction/combat was Mad Max, so I've been hankering for a new entry in this genre.
Man, those games were great, especially the first. I found something entirely by accident while playing the first on the Gamecube. There was a tiny, tiny smidge of a block on Ozone Avenue right by the beach where everyone was carrying something illegal on them if you did a search, so I'd run down there and pat down old ladies and gangbangers alike for sweet, sweet police rep.
I've seen, & while it's kinda... Reddit (for the lack of a better word), it's not the worst thing ever.
The spoilers are broken despite my tard-wrangling, please bear with it.
I'd like to spoil the season ending beforehand here, you can skip this if you want. The show, or at least the season isn't about the tournament, cause the actual Twisted Metal tournament hasn't really started yet, the show is a prologue tonit. The focus of this season is on John Doe & Quiet getting from point A to B. With some backstory for Sweet Tooth & Agent Stone.
The show isn't like the games in the regard of setting, it went for a basic-ass apocalyptic setting where Y2K turned out to be a real thing in 2002 (called "The Virus) fucked the Earth (at least America) in 2 decades. This led to Raven (the goth GF from the game, played as a non-Goth waifu, by a wall-hit Neve Campbell. It's just a name-only reference) basically runs a utopia called New San Francisco, said "utopia" is basically throwing out all the criminals out of the city & walled it.
Now, John Doe (a black-washed kinda Reddit version) is basically doing a fetch quest for citizenship into a New San Francisco. Where he gets a gun-point lift by some OC of the show named Quiet. The entire show from now on is a road-trip throughout America's big cities & the psychopaths from the games honestly.
Sweet Tooth, unironically the best part of the show honestly, his story is also changed now. He's a child actor who was the selling point of a sitcom (also called Twisted Metal, apparently) until they got a Golden Retriever (or Labrador, I don't remember), who had a schizo moment over a dog taking over his clout & murdered him in front of the crew. Later got sent to the Asylum, & years after breaking out killed his parents. He has a paper bag as his BFF honestly, & his clown army is now basically other patients from the Blackfield Asylum, who he calls his "fans".
That said, even though he looks different, an amalgamation of all the games, yet somehow perfectly accurate to how'd you expect him to look IRL. He still resonates because the core of his character remains the same. An impossibly wacky character who is in the tournament for personal gains, who subverts expectations (in a good, not Rian Johnson/J.J. Abrams way) at every corner. Risking his life for a paper bag, wanting to turn into a bug, getting the cure to his fire but smashing it because of "priorities".
Anthony Mackie plays a black-washed John Doe, & you'd think it'll be bad, but his character is surprisingly likeable. This version is a guy born in a apocalypse lost his family in it, with his sister still missing (it's important, I'll explain later), even in the end with no knowledge of civilization, the street smarts becoming muscle memory, his relationship with Evelyn, his Subaru, is nice to see. Seriously, his character is actually nice even with minor redditory.
There's one issue here tho, while the character is really good on it's own. It's Anthony Mackie playing him. I actually kinda like the actor, but he's really monotone & kind of a charisma void in some things. It’s jarring as John Doe how he’s supposed to be cocky/sassy/sincere & it all subs the same. He seems to be built better for stuff such as rom-coms or playing one of the Ghost Busters, he's a good comedic actor, but not really an action star.
Also, John's sister I talked about before? Yeah, she's Dollface now, so we have another blackwash now.
Agent Stone is supposedly the main villain, & this is where the reddit part really shows. He went from bad-ass British James Bond rip-off (TM1) & later a SWAT officer with a sympathetic (albeit censored by Sony) backstory (TMB). In the show? He's basically Paul Blart, yeah a fucking middle-aged mall-cop, who was such a nobody that teenage girls BTFO'd him (they died later, like TMB, but without the emotional value), other people got shot mocking him (deserved, & is honestly shit writing, cause why would you fuck with a man with a better gun than you, with families around?), he's extremely insecure to the point of killing people over it.
He later became a facist vigilante sheriff. He accumulated a lot of people who wanna LARP as the law. He uses definition cards to use heavy words & look superior to them, hides his insecurities, it's almost an emasculation campaign for a really good actor .
All that said, I actually do like that despite how cruel they are, the lawmen are still genuinely trying to bring order back. The road license is a good idea to maintain order on the roads, & it keeps your civilians safe knowing a lawman can & will assist you if your being fucked with. The set design is also nice with them with scrapped police clothes & gear using sedan & truck Outlaw versions for their vehicles.
By the way, the leftist ACAB Antifa-gs on the Twisted Metal subreddit loved this shit, & will call you names for liking this Stone. I'm surprised they didn't use his actual cut story line from TMB to dunk on Whites through white supremacists. Honestly, it's probably that they just needed an antagonist, & the Commiefornian writers thought the cop as the first choice.
Preacher is probably the worst of all, they turned a priest into the most Rabbi motherfucker possible essentially larping as a priest. He wants to fuck John Doe's Subaru, Evelyn (it really is as kike-like as it can get, it's like the kid me during Arcee scenes in Transformers Prime, except I had actually understandable incentive.
He also does Karate shit by the way, it's all too le random quirky retardation.
Basically an OC donut steel, & unironically the worst character of the show. She is legitimately the root cause behind most of the issues John Doe actually faces, & she's so bitchy about it that you'd hate her.
They just got the actress & told her "just play Rosa Diaz from Brooklyn 99 again, but in an apocalypse", she just makes a bitch-face & stares at people, & that's supposed to be badass apparently.
There's a scene where they're taking shelter in that fast food joint during a storm, & they go from hating each other to fucking in the ball pit to hating each other again in a snap of the fingers.
John gets his car destroyed after fighting Preacher, & while she does cry at the sight, they have a reunion & she's a selfish cunt. Sure they could have escaped together in the unarmed car but what then? How would you make it interesting? Instead at the reunion inside the trucker colony, she gives him the cold shoulder. The colony tells the two how to reach their destination & they need a car, but she delays the plot progression by damaging the car, puncturing a tire & refusing to help John work on it because "muh feelings n shiet".
She poisons John & doesn't take his car to get to Topeka in a reasonable amount of time, but also writes a cringeworthy letter & leaves it on his car's windshield to read when he recovers. If you're going to poison him, which wastes his time remaining to make his delivery, why not go full-bore & take the car as well? You were already doing him a disservice forcing yourself into his car at gunpoint in the very beginning, anyway
Was this love-hate relationship supposed to be interesting? She was so focused on revenge but then shows a soft spot for John, yet never fully commits until the final episode where ultimately she flips again, shooting him for not making up his mind about getting what he finally wanted, meanwhile she said the same thing about wanting a better life but then throws all of that progress they made together away once they make the delivery.
Even if I don't go as far as to say she ruins the show, she really does drag it down, the parts where they're getting along & having fun are so comfy but the writers made her super bipolar just to force really lame & gay drama.
Speaking of all this Reddit there was actually a lot of cope & seethe for this show on the game's subreddit. The critics were basically "haters" to them (you can actually find one of the guys who worked on the show in the comments of that post) & apparently the cringe is actually a postive thing.
Funny part is, even the media called out that this show sucked.
If that was too mucho texto for you, I'll answer the 3 basic questions for you.
All I want is car action, car destruction, car explosions, cars shooting missiles and machineguns, crazy looking cars, crazy looking characters driving the cars, will I get that?
You'll get that for three of the ten episodes, & they're maybe ten minutes each part, & a lot of it is CGI honestly. In fact, most of the actual "combat" is on-foot action scenes & it wasn't even decent Mad Max crazy action. It was all pretty boring. More of a sitcom than an action series.
I don’t want jokes, I don’t want quips, I don’t want humor, I don’t want winks at the camera, will any of it be there?
You're going to get plenty of that, & they're all poorly written, in-your-face tasteless Reddit humor jokes. YMMV, they might be for or against you.
What is the alternative to vehicular mayhem media?
There are many, tho what's weird is that there was no game, despite one supposedly being in works at the time of this series being produced.
That said, some best ones that come to head:
> Death Race 1 with Jason Statham, the peak film in 2000's of the genre. The sequels kinda suck, but isn't not the worst thing ever honestly.
> Blood Drive from 2017, which ironically has a video game of the same name but isn't based on it, did it much better. Go watch that instead.
