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The faggots released a statement that it was due to an error in a twitch server configuration change that this shit leaked.

Lol they really did pull a Facebook
 
Streamers literally are what phonesex hotlines used to be back in the day.
They pretend to talk to the viewer as they are their best friend and get payed doing so.

A great example of this is streamer sodapoppin's "The creature".
A guy who watched his streams wanted to hang with them at twitch-con thinking they are friends as he watches his streams.
Dude is awkward and sodapoppin and his friends basicly tell him to fuck off.
Afterwards the dude even shows up at his house because he wants to move in, all because he thought they were friends because he watched his streams.

Now this was around early 2010's, now we actually have E-whores pandering to this audiance of retards, from bathtub streams to V-tubers, it is if they became aware how people look up to streamers and try to exploit them.

IMO, if you are not mentally disabled and get exploited by this, you deserve it.
You being lonely will not go away by donating to some fabricated personality's stream.

However Im not completely innocent of this because I boosted the discord of the now deleted MATI stream discord to keep the sneed custom url.
@Null still owes me 10 euro because of this.
 
how long will it take to decrypt a file as large as that? is this next year homework?
 
naaaaiiiiillllll!!! said:
“The little faggot with the earring and the makeup. Yeah buddy, that’s his own hair. The little faggot got his own jet airplane. The little faggot, he’s a millionaire.”

That is a (sadly) censored verse from the song.

I think Dire Straits’ “Money for Nothing” is WAY more fitting to twitch streamers than we thought…
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I hear that on the radio from time to time. The verse is still there every time I've heard it.
 
I notice that ill tempered, slightly based and redpilled, dentist's (or similar) son THump does well enough at $348,029.94. He uses the slightly controversial Pepe the frog a bit, but so does the deathly dull Pokimane and Alinity sometimes.
 
I hate this society. I hate it. I hate it so much. It's the ultimate form of comedy.
 
Bolo said:
And then comes the uncomfortable part, the "friend simulator" shit, and the fact that a most of the money that these people make come from lonely people wanting to be part of "community" and wanting a piece of the attention of popular person on screen.

I'm not such a tard that I'm going to say that streamers prey on poor innocent souls that just wanna a friewnd, but they do need lonely people like that to give them gift subs and more, and thus creating this relationship of a quick acknowledgment from the streamer, incentivizing more people to get the attention and feeding into this loop that people aren't really giving money for the "content" (that isn't really that special) but for the illusion of a trendy term of "parasocial relationship".

Again, I'm not sperging about streamers are being evil an taking money from speds and shit, but like it or not, the money comes from a culture that preys on people's lonliness and longing for contact.

That is the reason there is a lot of people sperging about these twitch guys being millionaires, because a lot of these people, consciously or not, thought they were "friends" or, you know, just a guy on the internet, when in reality they are making more money than they could ever hope, and what is more, they are making money over some poor fucker doing a shitty 9-5 with no friends and no life... but hey, thanks for the superchat here is "popular guy" saying your user name.

So, you know, when you do put things in numbers like that, it does break the illusion a bit.

this is why I don't like streamers and influencers in general, it really bothers me this whole parasocial relationship more than I care to admit it and I do hope at one point culture will turn in some way that people will stop seeking attention and validation from outlets like this and just live their own lives, because it ain't really about money, but to be entrapped in this bullshit.
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Twitch doesn't only prey on people's loneliness, it preys on people by marketing itself as this place where dreams come true and where the every man can make it. Streaming has become this strange performative hobby where any loser can perform forever. If you try bringing your garage band to a tour, you need to have a modicum of skill.

Over the past few years, streamers and vtubers have infested a lot of communities I am/was a part of. Some of them had to make containment chambers for all the people doing self-promotion. Many of them are sycophants trying to do that hustle to make it on Twitch by recruiting as many people as possible to their "community". Usually comes bundled with some promise that either they'll interact with you and an off-chance that they might be entertaining.

There's this complex among even smaller streamers where they view themselves as this amazing person, but everyone else is on a level below them, they're viewers. This is a taboo subject as admitting that in public will turn the public opinion against you. This is what mmDust did at TwitchCon a few years ago.
 
To give a slightly alternative take on the leaks, here's the reaction of the Starcraft subreddit to the rundown of Starcraft related streams that made the list. Most people find the numbers involved pretty reasonable all things considered other than a couple people unhappy at seeing a streamer they aren't fond of doing well. Some like this guy in a different post are even happy about the amount of money going into their hobby.

In general I suspect there are a lot of people well aware that they're supporting an entertainer they like, not making a friend by giving money, or under the illusion they're supporting someone hard off. Particularly as you get further down the list to people who aren't making six figures over two years from Twitch payouts alone.
 
Tachibana said:
There's this complex among even smaller streamers where they view themselves as this amazing person, but everyone else is on a level below them, they're viewers. This is a taboo subject as admitting that in public will turn the public opinion against you. This is what mmDust did at TwitchCon a few years ago.
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Well whattya expect? When you're looking at the drachmas being made, damn right that's gonna put it in their heads that they're better. Much as people scream about how supposedly socialist/communist we've become, it don't change the fact that money doesn't just talk, it's still the metric by which we default measure success and personal worth as a human being.
 
Bolo said:
yeah, the Hasan thing is pretty self evident, guy came around decrying the evil of capitalist excess only to indulge himself in it. I don't think anyone above 16 really bought his act, but the guy was always a fraud and people just like to hammer him because, well, Hasan is a bit of a prick who is easy to get a rise from, so people fuck with him, and for a while now he has been treated as a bit of a joke.

The rest of the millionaire streamers, it is a bit of a more complex relationship.

The most obvious thing to criticize is the disparity between the talent/craft and their gains. You could argue that it takes charisma and charm to be a successful streamer, but none of these people really produce anything worth of praise or memorable, it is either just talking some inane social commentary shit, or playing a game other people worked on. Yeah, there is the "commentary" and it is a "transformative work" argument that is "content", which I agree to a extent, but considering that these people, and influencers as well as long as we are in it, are rather interchangeable, few could be considered as "unique" to be warranted with such a colossal income for just being "themselves".

I mean, can anyone with a straight face say that the Moist Critical manlet is really a force of personality?

And then comes the uncomfortable part, the "friend simulator" shit, and the fact that a most of the money that these people make come from lonely people wanting to be part of "community" and wanting a piece of the attention of popular person on screen.

I'm not such a tard that I'm going to say that streamers prey on poor innocent souls that just wanna a friewnd, but they do need lonely people like that to give them gift subs and more, and thus creating this relationship of a quick acknowledgment from the streamer, incentivizing more people to get the attention and feeding into this loop that people aren't really giving money for the "content" (that isn't really that special) but for the illusion of a trendy term of "parasocial relationship".

Again, I'm not sperging about streamers are being evil an taking money from speds and shit, but like it or not, the money comes from a culture that preys on people's lonliness and longing for contact.

That is the reason there is a lot of people sperging about these twitch guys being millionaires, because a lot of these people, consciously or not, thought they were "friends" or, you know, just a guy on the internet, when in reality they are making more money than they could ever hope, and what is more, they are making money over some poor fucker doing a shitty 9-5 with no friends and no life... but hey, thanks for the superchat here is "popular guy" saying your user name.

So, you know, when you do put things in numbers like that, it does break the illusion a bit.

this is why I don't like streamers and influencers in general, it really bothers me this whole parasocial relationship more than I care to admit it and I do hope at one point culture will turn in some way that people will stop seeking attention and validation from outlets like this and just live their own lives, because it ain't really about money, but to be entrapped in this bullshit.
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The problem is that this is a hardwired attachment disorder for young kids. I remember in the 90’s I would spend hours watching my cousin play sega genesis games, I thought it was really fun to just watch him play these games, fast forward to 2014 when twitch rolled around, I knew immediately what was up.
Here’s the thing that’s the most fucked up about conditioning kids to watch streamers: they lose confidence and become fuck all lazy. Your brain will literally atrophy and consider gaming on your own a chore and tedious. What’s fucked up also is that all these streamers don’t even bother talking about life or throwing in a little philosophy in the stream, it’s literally this milquetoast bubble talking about the games defects and that’s it.
I’m really glad this leak happened because there are plenty of paypigs who are reaching adulthood and realizing how they have been socially conditioned to basically have a drug habit via donating to these “people”
You would think one of these top streamers would be a someone who always has a crazy life story to tell every stream and that would be his Schlick, but nope these fuckers basically are streaming at the most animalistic level “aw man that was bullshit, this game is broken” that’s about as in depth as the conversation between the streamer and audience gets
 
RodneyStark said:
Here’s the thing that’s the most fucked up about conditioning kids to watch streamers: they lose confidence and become fuck all lazy. Your brain will literally atrophy and consider gaming on your own a chore and tedious. What’s fucked up also is that all these streamers don’t even bother talking about life or throwing in a little philosophy in the stream, it’s literally this milquetoast bubble talking about the games defects and that’s it.
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If only. If they'd all kept their gay opinions to themselves, it'd be for the best. The last thing a child needs is to learn morality from a fag streamer in LA.
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed somewhere in the past 49 pages, but was there any additional info on why the original leaker did it? Judging by his original post, I'm getting the vibe that it's very similar to the recent facebook shitshow (IE they're being punished for only being 90% onboard with whatever censorship the powers-that-be desire).

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Jasper2K said:
How many of you are actually jealous of all these streamers most of them making hundreds of thousands a month bascially doing nothing?
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Who in their right mind would not be jealous of being able to make hundreds of thousands of dollars for talking over other people's youtube videos?
 
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Amazing Criminal said:
If only. If they'd all kept their gay opinions to themselves, it'd be for the best. The last thing a child needs is to learn morality from a fag streamer in LA.
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at least it would make more sense as to why so many people are watching because it would be a conversation with some substance, but nope, it’s the most surface level interaction between streamer and the audience imaginable. You would think that a lot of these streamers are the best players in the genre they play, but nope.
I would love to know how many actually make $50k+ a year, plus donations that would give a better picture of what’s up
 
Exelxi said:
>easily earns $200k+ a month
>asks to be reimbursed for some firearms
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swear every 'socialist' dude you ever meet is always the first to bring up money
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he's a "professional socialist". the day he accepts that his tactics are capitalistic, his shop would be shuttered down.
the funniest part though, if he were to be exposed some day, his followers will still blame capitalism and spout something like "not true socialism"
 
Happy Fish said:
>scattered info from engineering blogs
vs
>the source code from the largest streaming service all at once

:thinking:

tbh you'd probably get better from the first but now literally anyone can look at the biggest site for streaming and be like "Yep. This is how its done" and do their own... or just fucking copy paste it if you live in china or some third world shithole that isn't subject to the bullshit whims of copyright cartels
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You would, without question, be better off reading from various engineering blogs. This is because there are multiple ways to get the job done, and it is frequently the case that companies often start with the single worst way of doing things just because it was easy to hack together in python inside of a week. A great example of this just off the top of my head is, I believe, is Instagram's infamous "Justin Bieber" problem. So basically, back in the day, whenever you'd like a post on Instagram it would update a counter on that post. Let that sink in for a minute: It would increment a counter that is held by a single, authoritative source. For the average user that might not be a problem, but whenever Justin Bieber would post shit he'd get so many likes on his posts that it would bring Instagram to its knees just trying to update the like counter (because even though they did in fact have a cache layer it couldn't keep up with all the updates).

So the chief value of this leak is probably just having an example of a working infrastructure for serving up full-motion video at scale, but by no means should you just copy-paste what you find. Instead, delve in and compare it to other architectures documented on, say, Highscalability.com, and read a few books on building scalable architecture. You'll come away with a better understanding of how things work.

On a related note: I'm real interested to see if the history on their code goes back to the Justin.tv days or not. I get the feeling this only covers the post-rebranding codebase or, even worse, they weren't using a VCS to maintain anything prior to around 2016 or so.
 
Cherenkovblue said:
You would, without question, be better off reading from various engineering blogs. This is because there are multiple ways to get the job done, and it is frequently the case that companies often start with the single worst way of doing things just because it was easy to hack together in python inside of a week. A great example of this just off the top of my head is, I believe, is Instagram's infamous "Justin Bieber" problem. So basically, back in the day, whenever you'd like a post on Instagram it would update a counter on that post. Let that sink in for a minute: It would increment a counter that is held by a single, authoritative source. For the average user that might not be a problem, but whenever Justin Bieber would post shit he'd get so many likes on his posts that it would bring Instagram to its knees just trying to update the like counter (because even though they did in fact have a cache layer it couldn't keep up with all the updates).

So the chief value of this leak is probably just having an example of a working infrastructure for serving up full-motion video at scale, but by no means should you just copy-paste what you find. Instead, delve in and compare it to other architectures documented on, say, Highscalability.com, and read a few books on building scalable architecture. You'll come away with a better understanding of how things work.

On a related note: I'm real interested to see if the history on their code goes back to the Justin.tv days or not. I get the feeling this only covers the post-rebranding codebase or, even worse, they weren't using a VCS to maintain anything prior to around 2016 or so.
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This is accurate. Trying to improve your dev skillset by looking at production code is an actually retarded idea. The engineering blogs are almost always a nice clean proof of concept, written without the pressures of deadlines because some retard wrote a check your team has to cash in Q3, or shitty workarounds because the RFOS team whose app serves as your upstream data provider can't get their shit together for months on end, or what have you, and none of those external factors that lead to sub-optimal designs are ever present in the actual code base.

Eventually the problem may grow so large that the team has to circle back to the hot mess, fix it, and then write a blog on the impact of the change for hacker news and dev.to clout, but then those end up being the very engineering blog posts you'd be reading anyways.
 
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