U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[deeplyhigh]

It's amusing to imagine Detroit going "Nope nope nope. Not doing this shit again".

Enjoy it, other urban cesspools.

This is shocking, but the police chief refuses to retreat and has the backing of the mayor and city council. Magically, they have not had issues like other major cities!

 

[Harvey Danger]

Bernie was blamed as one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton lost in addition to all the other big narratives of fake news, white supremacy, and Russian collusion.

Given the Veritas leaks, I think if Trump does win 2020 that the DNC will blame Antifa and BLM and merge that blame with the preexisting narrative against Bernie Sanders. I could be wrong on that, but it does seem like one of the easiest options and one that can be sold to the normies the most effectively. Plus they can get all those Veritas videos from their investigations of the Bernie campaign and Antifa they previously dismissed as "fake news" and air them as "shocking leaked footage"

But who knows what all they will blame if Trump actually does manage to win?

Spoiler: 2012 retrospective

2012 is instructive here. Republicans lost, which amplified a massive internal debate going on at the time: Ron Paul got screwed over, the libertarians generally felt kicked out of the party, the New Right conservative ideology was in tatters. The grassroots Tea Party delivered success in 2010, and they blamed "the elites" for the loss in 2012. (Ask a Republican in DC about the "cocktail parties" they go to, and watch them roll their eyes in exasperation.)

In fact the grassroots vs elites friction had been going on since the 2nd Bush term. The Democrats' red state/blue state narrative sunk into the GOP as well, and as people in red states thought of themselves as living in red states, they started to blame every political setback on RINOs living in blue states, including the very blue Washington DC. People remember Ann Coulter's famous prediction for Trump's win on Bill Maher's show; they forget she had been screeching against The Elites for 5+ years at that point.

So Trump, a 1960s-era Democrat populist, comes in and blows away the multiple factions in the GOP: New Right, Tea Party, libertarians, compassionate conservatives, moderate governors, New England RINOs, southern Evangelicals. He co-opted the base of some of them and just ridiculed the others into oblivion. The rest is history, as they say, but the point is that groundwork was laid during the previous election cycle.

The GOP had an energetic grassroots faction that had fought against the party, and no one blamed them for the electoral losses. I don't think the Democratic party itself blames the Bernie voters for 2016--the BernieBros certainly don't, and the numbers don't support a claim of wider defection.

For the Democrats to turn on the Bernie/BLM faction as a major scapegoat, they would have to completely throw them under the bus in a way the Republicans never did to the Ron Paul libertarians. They would have to build a conspiracy theory the size of Russiagate collusion to make it stick on their own side; normies and Republicans already blame the radicals.

(Maybe they could distinguish between progressives, BernieBros, and BLM to save face; but at this point I don't think those groups would let themselves be re-defined and split up. They enjoy the radicalism.)

Blaming BLM would be an outright rejection of the woke narrative. If the liberals were already laying groundwork to push back on the radical progressive/woke ideology, I could see it happening. But they're kneeling in Congress and excusing every excess of the riots. Instead, I think the Democrats view BLM as a useful street army, a pseudo-military wing of the Party that can be useful while maintaining plausible deniability for the political wing.

And as the IRA and PLO know, you only ditch the street power after you gain political power. You don't do it before you secure the top seat. It will take a Democratic President to get them to turn on BLM.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

This is shocking, but the police chief refuses to retreat and has the backing of the mayor and city council. Magically, they have not had issues like other major cities!

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Amazing. Imagine Detroit being able to absolutely dunk on other cities when it comes to riots.


What a world.

 

[Evo]

Some may disagree with me (and have said before) but I feel and believe society is in a slow motion collapse. So all you gotta do is out wait these son of bitches and prepare your self to live in a more technologically primitive world.

Fact, but contemporary analysis of modern collapse includes technology..always - the concept that society would fall and we'd revert back to a state of instant, techless barbarism is flatout asinine; the ultimate reality is technology has become embedded in every facet of existence for essentially every average person and a litany of people profess and narrow their knowledge in these areas, not wilderness survival, and believe it or not in downfall situations these fucking tech-nerds become VERY useful because a large amount of technology has to be reverse-engineered, altered, or placed on different grids in order to ensure operability.

Primitivity will prevail for only a moment before technology returns to the centerfold through methods of jackboot rigging, reverse engineering, etc. - even in the midst of nuclear winter, modern Humans will scramble for the technology as quickly as they will the food, the shelter, and warmth - to refuse to understand modern technology on the basis of future collapse is to be completely unprepared for said future collapse; truth is these days we need to be aware of technology alongside natural survival, because they have slowly become hand-in-hand for the majority of people alive and that will not change, not now, not ever - even sociological analysis of the old ''sticks and stones'' WW4 quote is completely baffling in terms of actual perspective; were we to completely wipe away technology at this point, we'd wipe ourselves out by and large; naturally early uses of technology post-collapse would lack professionalism but that would change quickly too, as people would begin to band together in factions based on relative understanding of the environment around them (including technology.) and shared view.

Natural survival and technology have to go hand-in-hand in any scenario of modern collapse, because this is not a situation where the ruins will magically vanish and the litany of platinum invested in computer technology is simply going to be forgotten - no, it's embedded and attached to every facet of society and life, and it will be pursued as crucially as basic survival elements.

Pressing the reset button will reset everything but Human reliance on technology; if you want that to end, end the world.

 

[Meat Target]

I dunno. I think Antifa and BLM will have alienated enough of the masses in the event of a Trump win and they'll have to shift the narrative somehow.

They may not blame Antifa and BLM specifically but I doubt they'll keep pressing the "muh Nazi" angle if Trump wins. If the George Floyd riots hadn't happened, you'd probably be right but BLM more or less ruined that narrative.

I've said this before, but I think a lot of the bigwigs honestly think 2016 was a fluke and that's why they tripled down on the woke left progressive bullshit. Hillary's popular vote win coupled with the unexpected success of Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries probably reinforced this notion.

If Trump wins 2020, the bigwigs will know it's not a fluke and will view it as a repudiation of the Woke Left and BLM.

Even if they don't explicitly blame the Woke Left in this scenario, I doubt that they will continue pushing the narrative about white supremacists. Also, a second term of Trump will mean more sanctions on China and an intensifying trade war, which will cut off a lot of the main revenue for the media corporations like Disney or the big tech firms like Google. They will have to adjust the narrative just to keep the money coming in.

The economic meltdown from COVID-19 is so severe that even Disney is hurting financially and they were the invincible powerhouse of Hollywood in the 2010's. Losing the Chinese market will force them to make tough decisions, and the same will go for Google, Facebook, Twitter, AT&T, etc.

They've invested too much in Wokeism to back away from it now. Even if Trump wins (as I said in my edit that I didn't think of till later), they can't flipflop on Wokeism because it means admitting they were wrong and (an even more heinous heresy) Trump was right.

In spite of Biden's glaring weaknesses, I still think he may win, because the Cultural Revolution we're in right now is to get Dems out to vote by keeping them in an unending Two Minutes Hate. They can conveniently blame everything, including Cuomo/Newsom/Whitmer's Covid failures, on Trump because White Supremacy and Orange Man Bad.

I'm not optimistic about November because boomers and swing voters are the most gullible among the electorate. I could be wrong, but knowing who controls the narrative (outside of the conservative media ghettos) makes me assume the worst will come to pass.

The polls placing Biden comfortably ahead may be suspicious, but Trump and conservatives need to be treating them as absolute gospel. This election is a fight for the GOP's life. If Trump loses this time, the Dems WILL have their revenge.

 

[2lolis1cup]

This is more local, but a Wauwatosa cop shot a nog, and he's been suspended. Rioters went to his home, he came out to talk to them, and they assaulted him and shot into his back door. This happened Saturday and they still have not gotten the perp. ETA: Officer is black.
Link

 

[DeadFish]

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Pressing the reset button will reset everything but Human reliance on technology; if you want that to end, end the world.

The end goal is create a situation where you can defend your self or fight back without severe repercussions. Only in a collapse would there be enough disruption to those fueling this woke crap and make an even playing field. I'm not anti tech. I'm against those who currently own it and how they wield it.

That's the best game plan I can think of for those who are against woke capitalism.

Rate me dumb, rate me autistic or whatever. But now you got a plan.

Also since you're a nazi a pro collapse stance would achieve the same end to weeding out the weak who propel this leftist crap far more effectively then any gas chamber would.

 

[DumbDude42]

Fact, but contemporary analysis of modern collapse includes technology..always - the concept that society would fall and we'd revert back to a state of instant, techless barbarism is flatout asinine; the ultimate reality is technology has become embedded in every facet of existence for essentially every average person and a litany of people profess and narrow their knowledge in these areas, not wilderness survival, and believe it or not in downfall situations these fucking tech-nerds become VERY useful because a large amount of technology has to be reverse-engineered, altered, or placed on different grids in order to ensure operability.

Primitivity will prevail for only a moment before technology returns to the centerfold through methods of jackboot rigging, reverse engineering, etc. - even in the midst of nuclear winter, modern Humans will scramble for the technology as quickly as they will the food, the shelter, and warmth - to refuse to understand modern technology on the basis of future collapse is to be completely unprepared for said future collapse; truth is these days we need to be aware of technology alongside natural survival, because they have slowly become hand-in-hand for the majority of people alive and that will not change, not now, not ever - even sociological analysis of the old ''sticks and stones'' WW4 quote is completely baffling in terms of actual perspective; were we to completely wipe away technology at this point, we'd wipe ourselves out by and large; naturally early uses of technology post-collapse would lack professionalism but that would change quickly too, as people would begin to band together in factions based on relative understanding of the environment around them (including technology.) and shared view.

Natural survival and technology have to go hand-in-hand in any scenario of modern collapse, because this is not a situation where the ruins will magically vanish and the litany of platinum invested in computer technology is simply going to be forgotten - no, it's embedded and attached to every facet of society and life, and it will be pursued as crucially as basic survival elements.

Pressing the reset button will reset everything but Human reliance on technology; if you want that to end, end the world.

the technology that would be useful in a post collapse world isn't the technology that people in civilisation are obsessed with and reliant on.
what could be useful is stuff like electric generators, steam engines, various ways to work with and process locally available fuel (mostly wood) into more useful forms, firearm maintenance, etc. but basically nobody knows enough about that stuff to recreate it.
what all these tech people are obsessed with on the other hand (computer programming, smartphones, internet, etc) will be completely out of the picture because you won't be re-creating the fucking internet or cell phone tower grids any time soon after a collapse.

 

[FlamingPie]

The end goal is create a situation where you can defend your self or fight back without severe repercussions. Only in a collapse would there be enough disruption to those fueling this woke crap and make an even playing field. I'm not anti tech. I'm against those who currently own it and how they wield it.

That's the best game plan I can think of for those who are against woke capitalism.

Rate me dumb, rate me autistic or whatever. But now you got a plan.

So... what exactly happens after this collapse and the woketards lose their power and are beaten back once and for all?

 

[Syaoran Li]

They've invested too much in Wokeism to back away from it now. Even if Trump wins (as I said in my edit that I didn't think of till later), they can't flipflop on Wokeism because it means admitting they were wrong and (an even more heinous heresy) Trump was right.

In spite of Biden's glaring weaknesses, I still think he may win, because the Cultural Revolution we're in right now is to get Dems out to vote by keeping them in an unending Two Minutes Hate. They can conveniently blame everything, including Cuomo/Neesom/Whitmer's Covid failures, on Trump because White Supremacy and Orange Man Bad.

I'm not optimistic about November because boomers and swing voters are the most gullible among the electorate. I coule be wrong, but knowing who controls the narrative (outside of the conservative media ghettos) makes me assume the worst will come to pass.

I'd say Biden has a 50/50 shot of winning as of now. That may change depending on his VP pick or if Trump can get the televised debates going.

I'm worried about November as well, but at the same time, I think a Trump win may force them Democrats to flip-flop on the Woke Left. They've invested so much into it precisely because they want to beat Trump.

A Trump win might force their hand, and I think the Dems and the MSM are taking small baby steps to shift the narrative on the Woke Left, namely by trying to differentiate between Antifa and BLM. This is a very recent development and they should've had this backup plan worked out months ago, but still.

I think they're going to back wokeness for the next few months but if they do lose the election, they'll have to shift gears.

On an unrelated note, I'm gonna take a break from Articles & Happenings for a bit

 

[DumbDude42]

So... what exactly happens after this collapse and the woketards lose their power and are beaten back once and for all?

if it's a local collapse only? foreign power invades and annexes america
if it's a global collapse? enjoy IRL fallout i guess

 

[DeadFish]

So... what exactly happens after this collapse and the woketards lose their power and are beaten back once and for all?

You build your dream society.
Also your son doesnt get his dick cut off and be forced to wear dresses if he decides to tell his kindergarten teacher there are only two genders.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

I go to bed thinking 'Well at least the random looting seems to have died off' so naturally I find out Chicago joggers had a wild free for all overnight.

So you got to deal with that roster of unsafe guns that the cops can buy from?

Spoiler: Off topic sperging

Oh boy does the roster trigger the fuck out of me. I collect handguns so it's a massive pain in the ass, it was originally sold as a way to get the shitty saturday night specials out of the stores and morphed into what it is now, when they added a 'microstamping' requirement to all new guns, so the CA handgun market is frozen in the early 2010s (and only what was actively in production then). A 'safe' gun still has to be renewed each year and the gun manufacturers have to pay a fee and keep a separate production line for 'CA compliant' guns, so the roster shrinks every year, whereas MA's handgun roster at least, doesn't have previously 'safe' guns become 'unsafe' just because the manufacturer didn't pay their dues to the state. 'Unsafe' guns aren't illegal to have (I have a couple) unless CA considers the specific one an assault weapon (threaded barrels for suppressors and the like), you just can't buy them conventionally and it has to be a private, face to face transaction with someone who already has one. Military and police are exempt from the roster of course, so they can buy all the 'unsafe guns' they want and are the source of them actually getting into the state at inflated prices. There's also other minor exemptions such as people that actually decide to move here with guns for some godforsaken reason or people that can transfer from direct family members out of state. So while you can get 'unsafe guns' perfectly legally you basically have to do so through the grey market, and while there's a pending court case against the roster it's unlikely to get anywhere fast. The roster is incredibly dumb and illogical if it was actually meant to keep genuinely 'unsafe' guns off the streets but makes perfect sense as a long game to eventually inconvenience handgun ownership out of existence, and between cops being exempt from it, boomer-minded people that can treat their gun collections as appreciating assets, gun manufacturers still willing to put up with it, and normies that don't understand or care how it works since as far as they're concerned you can still get (some) Glocks, 1911s, and revolvers (which are mostly exempt from the roster new) off of it it's not likely to go anywhere soon.

 

[Disheveled Human]

As horrifying as this is I hope its just some sort of covert way to enact some kind of economic plan to kill off brick and mortar stores in urban areas mostly big box stores. Right now it might seem like a one or two off situation Chicago and Minneapolis. But I imagine if Trump gets re-elected it will happen in a more widespread manor the following weeks. Then everyone will have to shop online and pick up their goods at an amazon distribution warehouse. Personally I like brick and mortar stores but they do take up a lot of living space and cost a lot for companies.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Chicago holding post offices up at gunpoint according to police scanner.

 

[FlamingPie]

You build your dream society and your son doesnt get his dick cut off and be forced to wear dresses if he decided to mouth off to the teacher by saying there are only two genders.

Something tells me the dream society part either won't happen, or it will, but will quickly become corrupted and/or overrun by some warlord.

 

[JohnnyG]

With all these luxury brand stores getting looted, can we stop acting like overpriced stuff is a symbol of status? It should have stopped when everyone could get a credit card but for some reason you still see Name Brand clothing and accessories on people in line at the food stamp office.

It doesn't seem like it's really on its way out, but I do see luxury brands as kind of... trashy, these days.
When I see someone with a Louis Vuitton Neverfull I don't think of class and a high-flying lifestyle, I think of a high-school student using daddy's credit card. Gucci just makes me think of GenZ TikTokers, wannabe rappers, and Jefree Star.

Most of these brands are status symbol only to low and maybe middle class people. It's celebrity shit.

Couldn't agree more. If I fork over significant shekels for something, it's because I genuinely like the product and it has done good for me.

This is why they want you replaced with third-world hordes, whose low impulse control and worship of luxury trappings make them the perfect consoomer.

Hank Hill living below his means and buying quality goods that will last a lifetime is much less appealing than someone who'll max out their credit card/EBT on the latest shiny plastic shit with a brand slapped on it.

 

[Evo]

The end goal is create a situation where you can defend your self or fight back without severe repercussions. Only in a collapse would there be enough disruption to those fueling this woke crap and make an even playing field. I'm not anti tech. I'm against those who currently own it and how they wield it.

That's the best game plan I can think of for those who are against woke capitalism.

Rate me dumb, rate me autistic or whatever. But now you got a plan.

Now we're on even playing fields, yes - there's no peaceful way to subvert the status quo of society, it's far too embedded; it requires a period of absolute chaos and collapse in order to change this rollercoaster and the direction it's going - brings me back to the 'hamster stuck in a wheel' metaphor I'd previously used, and knocking that hamster out of its' wheel is the only way we're going to get anywhere.

Not gonna downrate you for that, we're in semi-agreement honestly.

the technology that would be useful in a post collapse world isn't the technology that people in civilisation are obsessed with and reliant on.
what could be useful is stuff like electric generators, steam engines, various ways to work with and process locally available fuel (mostly wood) into more useful forms, firearm maintenance, etc. but basically nobody knows enough about that stuff to recreate it.
what all these tech people are obsessed with on the other hand (computer programming, smartphones, internet, etc) will be completely out of the picture because you won't be re-creating the fucking internet or cell phone tower grids any time soon after a collapse.

na, I don't deny that - I don't refer to shit like someones' android, iPhone, Tablet or their various recreational platforms of escapism being relevant in a time of collapse, I just don't see us reverting back to a point of absolute zero or even very close to absolute zero - if we do reach anywhere close to that point, it won't be for very long; clearly there's more than one way to read my statement but when I refer to people 'scrambling for technology': yes, people would scramble for shit like generators, including those who have virtually fuck all of an idea of how to use those things; they'll still scramble for it, and fight over it - clearly someones' fucking iPhone isn't going to be very useful being that its' service won't be maintained on an inactive grid, but no doubt people will attempt to find ways to use the tens of millions of handheld devices left over in the wake of everything as well, but it's obviously not going very fucking far in the realm of the social and recreational usage with phones we see now.

 

[DeadFish]

Something tells me the dream society part either won't happen, or it will, but will quickly become corrupted and/or overrun by some warlord.

I dont promise a utopia. The left does and look at what kind of shit storm that causes.

One must accept the world isnt perfect and never will be. A post collapse scenario would be the best option in my opinion to deal with this crap. Yes such a world would be brutal and difficult but it would grant the most freedom and most sanity compared to the north korean like conditions we would get if the left takes over.

Anyone who promises you a world of ease and comfort is probably someone trying to baste you up for the spit.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Something tells me the dream society part either won't happen, or it will, but will quickly become corrupted and/or overrun by some warlord.

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