Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

Blue Herring said:
On the topic of community drama about pedo shit, I'm surprised none of the Undertale fanbase talks about the Houshou Marine collab from a few years back. She's got a big thing for shotas and her whole gimmick is being a 30-something woman playing a teenage hornybait character, you'd think Tumblr would be losing its shit over Toby being a fan of her.
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Her catch phrase is literally "I'm Hornyyyy!~♪", which makes me want to put a 12 gauge round through her skull point-blank, she's so fucking insufferable

Toby, stop lusting over pedoniggers and work on your fucking game
 
Two Dollars said:
Crosspost from the Sonic thread since I’ve been meaning to talk about this:

Anti-AI spergs aside, Undertale’s PS2 port is showing a lot of promise. I almost envy the NEETs who can spend all their time using AI to do cool things with old games (not that Undertale is that old, but I digress).
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First time I see that specific brand of Anti Ai sperg bitching about code, normally it is Art, voices or music yet never code (likely because the end user never "sees" the code and they don't know jack about coding)
 
Blue Herring said:
On the topic of community drama about pedo shit, I'm surprised none of the Undertale fanbase talks about the Houshou Marine collab from a few years back. She's got a big thing for shotas and her whole gimmick is being a 30-something woman playing a teenage hornybait character, you'd think Tumblr would be losing its shit over Toby being a fan of her.
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I don't think they have too much moral ground to stand on. Quickly checked e6, and there's 5.7k pictures of Noelle. If I know furries, at least half of those are erotica or more. She is just a cartoon character, but it definetly complicates calling people pedos.
 
smartgenius55583433157 said:
Beethovenus, the director of TS!Underswap, was recently banned off of Discord permanently, with his alt account (which he made before the ban) being banned shortly after for ban evasion. According to his post, Discord banned him for violating the child safety policy, twice.
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Beethovenus has gotten an official response from Discord. He will not be unbanned.
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On the one hand, this is an update in the direction that he actually did do something bad (after all, another fangame guy, Blaize Mayes, did). On the other hand, it seems weird that he would be reported with nobody dropping a Google Dockey on him. On another hand, this situation reeks of faggotry and gayops with the OneShotExposed account. Is that account just false flagging and taking credit for something they didn't do? Who even knows what the fuck is going on?
 
Noebel said:
I don't think they have too much moral ground to stand on. Quickly checked e6, and there's 5.7k pictures of Noelle. If I know furries, at least half of those are erotica or more. She is just a cartoon character, but it definetly complicates calling people pedos.
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Eh, hypocritical maybe, but more people take issue with gooning to cartoon little kids like shotacons do than gooning to cartoon teens. Probably since the "young" aspect is usually part of the fixation with shota and loli shit.

Then again, noones brought up Frisk flirting with half the adults in the underground either, and everyone forgot about Omocat too. Guess we wait until one too many old forum post screenshots crop up and the chronically online crowd turns against him
 
Markass the Worst said:
Beethovenus has gotten an official response from Discord. He will not be unbanned.
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On the one hand, this is an update in the direction that he actually did do something bad (after all, another fangame guy, Blaize Mayes, did). On the other hand, it seems weird that he would be reported with nobody dropping a Google Dockey on him. On another hand, this situation reeks of faggotry and gayops with the OneShotExposed account. Is that account just false flagging and taking credit for something they didn't do? Who even knows what the fuck is going on?
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I know that (generally speaking) these fuckwad services (meta, x, discord, yt, twitch, etc.) all have allegedly-bulletproof Terms of Service agreements and Acceptable Use Policies which protect them from, well, any fucking mistake they make ever, apparently, but I think it's well beyond time people started just saying "fuck it" and swarming these faggot companies with in forma pauperis litigation over this kind of shit. "Banned and we're not saying why. Agreement says we can." Yeah well fuck your agreement -- you have literal books of liquid bullshit on your site's incomprehensible "help systems" glazing yourselves about "appeals" this and "reviews" that and "community safety" and all that jazz, and, gosh darn it, it sure looks like you're having a go at being a "community government" of some kind, what with these semi-formalized processes of users complaining about each other and requesting re-reviews (you could almost call it "appeals," and sometimes you do) that you're flirting dangerously close with being a de-facto justice system of some kind.

Of course the real underlying problem is just that literally every public service (free or paid) didn't just collectively say "fuck you, our users' lawful actions aren't our fucking problem, fuck off, and if you think it's illegal, we'll obey lawful court orders, so go get one" the first time a whiny Karen or asshole forum troll decided to go "ask for a manager."

De-facto unimpeachable "governments" running massively popular, widely-used platforms need to die.
 
moocow said:
I think it's well beyond time people started just saying "fuck it" and swarming these faggot companies with in forma pauperis litigation over this kind of shit.
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I applaud the sentiment but I don't think it's realistic. Too many people just take this shit lying down.
 
Markass the Worst said:
Beethovenus has gotten an official response from Discord. He will not be unbanned.
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On the one hand, this is an update in the direction that he actually did do something bad (after all, another fangame guy, Blaize Mayes, did). On the other hand, it seems weird that he would be reported with nobody dropping a Google Dockey on him. On another hand, this situation reeks of faggotry and gayops with the OneShotExposed account. Is that account just false flagging and taking credit for something they didn't do? Who even knows what the fuck is going on?
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I’m curious about what the evidence was. Discord will ban fucking epstein memes counted as child safety.
 
Markass the Worst said:
I applaud the sentiment but I don't think it's realistic. Too many people just take this shit lying down.
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Well of course. Because others take this shit laying down.

Just do it a few times. Even if it's just to get a bit of attention via "well duh no shit the big evil company can literally crush you at any time for no reason without recourse, what are you, stupid, dumb fuck slave?"-style articles. It's useful to put those reminders out there -- it's that whole "quiet part said out loud" thing. We all supposedly "know" it's true, it's just that they're not supposed to actually admit it.
 
It's slave morality of the masses to take this shit lying down. Why do you think nothing substantial has been done about more harrowing and important topics?


It's the slave morality that made stories like Undertale and Deltarune, this whole pacifistic faggotry popular.

Earthbound will always be the better game. Even the original French version of OFF did a tale of genocide better.
 
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GratsTheat783 said:
It's a fucking Discord account, sure it might be bit sad not to be able to scroll through old messages but it's not like anything vital was lost
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On second thought, it might be because his "job" as the dev lead of multiple projects is directly tied to him managing them through Discord. But why not set up a TeamSpeak private server and get your team over there for the time being so you won't get "mass reported"? And then develop the game in peace?

Like I'm sure you can convince your team to hop over somewhere else if the entire project hinges on you?
 
Nameless One said:
Earthbound will always be the better game. Even the original French version of OFF did a tale of genocide better.
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If we really need to rank Earthbound and le quirky earthbound inspired RPGs, I guess we should provide personal ranking:
  1. Earthbound/Mother 2. Unironically a good game with an exhaustingly long adventure, its what modern pokémon games should feel like and its a crime they never managed to reach a 10th of this game's scope literal decades later.
  2. Lisa the Painful: I don't care what the fuck is going on with the developer RN, the game is great and whenever a faggot tries to boast about the writing in that piece of shit that is tlou, I will never stop using this gem of a game for comparison.
  3. Mother 1: I don't think anyone but the creator of Yume Nikki has ever tried to reproduce the unique atmosphere this game has, nor a game like it has ever been made since, some of its aspects I like even more than Earthbound, its a game worth playing at least once, despite its flaws.
  4. Off: I like how extremely surreal this game is, but also how you get to understand the logic and laws the world you explore, its the perfect mix of bleak and grotesque, combined with the right amount of comedy to make the whole thing work just right.
  5. Oneshot: Despite having no combat, being overall a small game and its basic bitch gameplay, I'm quite fond of its enviroment, music, and characters, the pixel art is quite gorgeous despite its limits and I was attached to the characters you encounter.
  6. Deltarune: This is how I place it as of now. I won't shit on it, its a decent game so far but its placement here is solely out of potential for the last 3 chapters, I can easily see this game go at the bottom, the moment toby fox decides to go full faggot mode.
  7. Hylics and Hylics 2: Two games that provides a unique experience from start to end, the combat is basic but you are there more for the ride than that, easily the most surreal game you'll ever experinece, and yet surprisingly chill as well, the setting and aesthetic is something you could reproduce solely by watching the closing of an episode of The Prisoner while taking heavy drugs. Try the first one at least, if you got spare money on your Steam account.
  8. Omori: Its easy to hate this game because what it does bad IS Bad, the history behind the development of this game and the person behind it ain't great either, take that aside and you're left with a pretty decent game with nice art, soundtrack and settings.
  9. Undertale: Its overrated and we need to throw the entirety of its fandom into a sinkhole, alphys is a cunt, mettaton deserves public execution and toby fox is a massive cuck, still a good game
  10. Mother 3: I don't like this game, I don't hate this game, it features a kid being molested by a drag queen, plays it as a joke or as if its a good thing and the rest is just whatever, toby fox learnt the wrong lessons from this thing and its fans are also more pretentious shitheads you can find.
  11. Lisa the joyful: This game is extremely flawed but has its moment, mainly the way it expands on the world of the first (second) game, what I don't like is the rest: the plot, the main character, the simplified combat, lack of companions, lack of differences when playing joyless, retconning Buddy so that she was trained to defend herself being just an extremely retarded idea and I wanna add: the fact that, in term of writing, lowest point of this game remains twice as good as the best written scene from tlou2 doesn't makes this game automatically good, it simply show you how ass tlou 2 actually is.
  12. Old Yiik: I still haven't played I.V but it doesn't looks half bad, in the meantime, there are reasons YiiK was memed and mocked to death and its that the game is dogshit, everything from the story, graphic, characters, music and combat made me wish for the sweet release of death, the history behind the development and the aftermath are tragic, so I'm happy the Allanson brothers refused to toss the towel and tried yet again, I just wish their first (second if you count two brothers) attempt at a game was better.
 
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Strangolapreti said:
Oneshot: Despite having no combat, being overall a small game and its basic bitch gameplay, I'm quite fond of its enviroment, music, and characters, the pixel art is quite gorgeous despite its limits and I was attached to the characters you encounter.
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Ignore the DLC, it shatters the original. Also, they/thems.

Strangolapreti said:
Omori: Its easy to hate this game because what it does bad IS Bad, the history behind the development of this game and the person behind it ain't great either, take that aside and you're left with a pretty decent game with nice art, soundtrack and settings.
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And tiny sprites. Jimmy aired earlier and it's way better.

Strangolapreti said:
Mother 3: I don't like this game, I don't hate this game, it features a kid being molested by a drag queen, plays it as a joke or as if its a good thing and the rest is just whatever, toby fox learnt the wrong lessons from this thing and its also way more pretentious than anything else I listed here, including Yiik.
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... How it can be more pretentious than Yoink, which turns to the player to do the job for the protagonist after he gives up? And whose said protagonist is a literal fedora redhead SI?
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Ignore the DLC, it shatters the original. Also, they/thems.
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Haven't played that in a while, I thought sunrise wasn't bad.
Newcomer 42 said:
And tiny sprites. Jimmy aired earlier and it's way better.
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This is a list of games i never played, and I never touched nor heard of Jimmy
Newcomer 42 said:
... How it can be more pretentious than Yoink, which turns to the player to do the job for the protagonist after he gives up? And whose said protagonist is a literal fedora redhead SI?
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I'll admit, I was wrong on that, Yiik is more pretentious, changed the text.
 
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Strangolapreti said:
I still haven't played I.V but it doesn't looks half bad
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I never believe any sort of "redemption arc" narrative that gets pushed about a game that was bad on release. At best it's like Destiny where the team has temporarily managed to get their shit together (and it will likely fall apart again by the next major update), at worst it's total marketing garbage like they tried with Fallout 76. With the sole exception of No Man's Sky, this heuristic has never failed me.

Strangolapreti said:
12. Old Yiik
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99. Heartbound
 
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I say we give @Strangolapreti a nice necklacing for sharing his dog shit rank no one asked for on here just because I shared one utterance of an untouchable classic known as Earthbound.

Chrono Trigger beats them all anyways, and you're a faggot if you disagree.


This user is such a fucking algo brained normie he likely never even heard of Space Funeral. Dumb bitch. Also Hylics is a tranny game, there's better surrealist games that were hidden in the early 2010s (that I forget the name of).

Also putting Mother 3 that low is laughable. You really are a fucking autistic.
 
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