Undertale

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I personally believe the kids who kept screeching about it being the "greatest game ever made" were merely copying their favourite youtubers.
I admit I voted for it on that poll because I hadn't heard or played the other games on it. It shouldn't have been put on that poll at all with all the hype surrounding it. There should have been a minimum 1 year since release rule or something to remove the possibility of hype swaying the results. If that poll came out around the time of FNAF and that was an option, that would have been voted the best game of all time.
 
Why do you think Toby Fox is an asshole? The most controversial things I've seen of him are his tweet in support of BLM and his insistence on making Kris' pronouns they/them (he kept correcting two guys who were livestreaming the game at an event). From what I can tell, he's actively avoided making political stances outside of that. There was an interview a few years ago where he refused to answer any questions relating to gay representation.
I admit I feel slight annoyance with him since it sometimes feels like he's everywhere, like with that Touhou crossover a few months ago. Aside from that, I've not heard much about how he is IRL.
I don't know, maybe it is his "attitude"? I don't really know. It isn't really politics, it's more like the behaviour itself. Just like Garry Newman from Garry's Mod. Something very peculiar with attitude, and probably with "just happening to be everywhere", even when both men don't want to be everywhere. Otherwise, I have a begrudging respect.

Undertale is in a very complicated position. I was actually one of the people who bought the game when it came out and the fandom was sleepy as hell for about a month before it became flooded with young kids who, inevitably, made it one of the worst fandoms on the internet. It's a chill, fun game to burn 5-6 hours on and I personally believe the kids who kept screeching about it being the "greatest game ever made" were merely copying their favourite youtubers. Toby was just smart enough to know to keep his new followers at arms length and not get involved with their unhinged antics.


It's deliberate with the latter lmao. It's canon that Spamton will literally marry any fan who proposes to him as long as they have money, then divorce them so he gets their stuff. That's how much of a douchebag he is and I love it.
Hm, I can accept that point of view. Like I said, maybe I am being a bit harsh with Mr. Fox, but I do have a begruding respect, and I do hope he keeps his intellectual proprety AWAY from pozz. I don't have much hope considering how much fame he got, however.
I see about Spamatron, hey, it's in the name after all.
 
I don't know, maybe it is his "attitude"? I don't really know. It isn't really politics, it's more like the behaviour itself. Just like Garry Newman from Garry's Mod. Something very peculiar with attitude, and probably with "just happening to be everywhere", even when both men don't want to be everywhere. Otherwise, I have a begrudging respect.
What behavior, though? He mostly stays out of the public eye and is very humble about his own work.
 
What behavior, though? He mostly stays out of the public eye and is very humble about his own work.
It's hard to put into words, I guess I don't like something about him. While it may look like envy, initially, it's something that makes me think he has something of a "funny mememan" image that I think it's fake.
 
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"...the release of the game is still far." Guessing no 3+4 this year then huh
At this point I just wish we'd get part 3 already. Its been nearly three years.
I get wanting to make sure everything is squared away and done right, but come on man.

Apparently part 3 is also done. So its just kind of been sitting there, ready to go while they hammer away at part 4. IIRC it was originally going to be 3, 4, and 5 all at once, but he at least had the sense to go "okay that one's a bit too wacky".
 
It's hard to put into words, I guess I don't like something about him. While it may look like envy, initially, it's something that makes me think he has something of a "funny mememan" image that I think it's fake.
I see what you’re saying; though if his pre-Undertale work is any indication, his shitpost/mememan sense of humor is completely genuine. It’s funny looking back at 2015/2016 interviews where he has this unrestrained “lol XD” personality (indicative of someone in their early 20s who spent a lot of time on pre-SJW Tumblr) and now, where he actually tries to be formal and professional.

I hope I don’t come off as fanboyish, I just see Toby as the quintessential indie success story; a guy who made it big doing what he sincerely loves and has both the skill and notoriety to do whatever and be wherever the hell he wants.
 
I see what you’re saying; though if his pre-Undertale work is any indication, his shitpost/mememan sense of humor is completely genuine. It’s funny looking back at 2015/2016 interviews where he has this unrestrained “lol XD” personality (indicative of someone in their early 20s who spent a lot of time on pre-SJW Tumblr) and now, where he actually tries to be formal and professional.

I hope I don’t come off as fanboyish, I just see Toby as the quintessential indie success story; a guy who made it big doing what he sincerely loves and has both the skill and notoriety to do whatever and be wherever the hell he wants.
It's fine, just voicing my opinion too.
 
It's hard to put into words, I guess I don't like something about him. While it may look like envy, initially, it's something that makes me think he has something of a "funny mememan" image that I think it's fake.
Same, I think he radiates "male feminist" energy. Literally all of Undertale's development team except him were women which I found very weird, why would you only approach women to help you? Creep tier

He also self-created his own DEI hell by surrounding himself with tumblr SJWs, IIRC his review team had told him that Spamton is creepy and problematic but he decided to keep it in, and turns out that the fans really fucking love Spamton meanwhile next to no one discusses the bullshit lesbian romance storyline

Regardless I love his work and hope he can stay free of controversy
 
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Regardless I love his work and hope he can stay free of controversy
This is exactly my point of view. Despite my personal shortcomings (which can be practically nothing) against the person, let's see if he can make a good product. I know he has no control over his fandom, and I will not blame him for that.
 
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don't know, maybe it is his "attitude"? I don't really know. It isn't really politics, it's more like the behaviour itself. Just like Garry Newman from Garry's Mod. Something very peculiar with attitude, and probably with "just happening to be everywhere", even when both men don't want to be everywhere. Otherwise, I have a begrudging respect.
Yeah I think I get what you mean. After I saw this clip and "The Baby Is You" track fron his Homestuck days, I feel like I'd be personally annoyed by his sense of humor and antics, but otherwise it's harmless and I don't get that "bad feeling" I get with other people, just mild personal annoyance.
 
Anyways, didn't mean to stirr the topic on other direction. So, another story time, this one a bit interesting!

Anyone know Manhunt, the game by Rockstar Games? Yeah, for some reason I kind of was autistic enough a few years ago to think "What if there was a multiprotagonist version of Undertale where you'd have a:
  • Green heart (Pacifist) - Based on a game like Earthbound;
  • Yellow heart (Neutral) - Based on a fighting/action game, could be an RPG like Chrono Trigger or maybe Final Fantasy;
  • Red heart (Genocide) - Based on Manhunt;
And you'd have 3 protagonists to choose. One which would be the pacifist, the other a neutral and the third a genocidal guy, and similar gameplay. The end would be akin to Manhunt 1 where in Manhunt 1 when you kill Pigsy and Starkweather. Basically the guy would saw Chara in half in the middle of the desert, idk. And head to Los Santos because why not.
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I admit this is autistic crossover, but hey, I want to share. I never played the game and thought it would be... amusing to hear someone's thoughts. To be honest, I look back and cringe at one point having thought about all of this so, feel free to laugh. :gunt: And in case someone asks "WHY???": I don't know. Maybe I just liked the concept. Which makes me say I like parts of the game, mainly Toriel, Asgore and even Asriel. Yet other parts I think I should give a try.

Other than that, what are you hoping to see in the story of Deltarune - to those that played the game? I mean, worldbuilding, character dephts, etc?
 
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I saw this meme recently and it reminded me of Undertale AUs. Apparently the show with that clown girl is getting Undertale-esque AUs.
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While I'm sure they existed beforehand, fan-made AUs seemed to become popular with Undertale. I remember I really wanted to make my own AU.
My favourite was Storyshift, where Chara and Asriel took the place of Sans and Papyrus, Toriel and Asgore the place of Undyne and Alphys and so on.

Undertale AU music is also very good.
 
He also self-created his own DEI hell by surrounding himself with tumblr SJWs, IIRC his review team had told him that Spamton is creepy and problematic but he decided to keep it in, and turns out that the fans really fucking love Spamton meanwhile next to no one discusses the bullshit lesbian romance storyline
Actually. Controversial content is something I'm wondering about for Chapter 3.
Now, this is all very speculative; but Toriel is probably going to appear in the next dark world.
I'm wondering what age-rating Toby's aiming for because her reasonably assumed "side-b" content is likely to get the game a hard-r. PEGI doesn't even have special symbols for it because why the fuck would that happen in any game ever.
What I'm getting at is: Toby's equipping his monke paw and is about to grant some longterm fandom wishes.
 
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Actually. Controversial content is something I'm wondering about for Chapter 3.
Now, this is all very speculative; but Toriel is probably going to appear in the next dark world.
I'm wondering what age-rating Toby's aiming for because her reasonably assumed "side-b" content is likely to get the game a hard-r. PEGI doesn't even have special symbols for it because why the fuck would that happen in any game ever.
What I'm getting at is: Toby's equipping his monke paw and is about to grant some longterm fandom wishes.
What do you mean? This is an interesting speculation and I'm honestly interested despite the previous autism.
 
What do you mean? This is an interesting speculation and I'm honestly interested despite the previous autism.
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"I’m an Ed-apus, cuz I’m Ed!"

No-way that Toby "The Baby is You" Fox doesn't crack at least one joke at that side of the fandom.
I'm thinking he'll do more though. It's such an obvious compliment to the original snowgrave material.
The only wonder is if his team would willingly assist in producing it.
 
I saw this meme recently and it reminded me of Undertale AUs. Apparently the show with that clown girl is getting Undertale-esque AUs.
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While I'm sure they existed beforehand, fan-made AUs seemed to become popular with Undertale. I remember I really wanted to make my own AU.
My favourite was Storyshift, where Chara and Asriel took the place of Sans and Papyrus, Toriel and Asgore the place of Undyne and Alphys and so on.

Undertale AU music is also very good.
I don't see how this is different compared to Friday Night Funkin AUs/Mods since those were pretty popular then and now still. And even then AU stuff is pretty typical for any fans of any media.
 
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