Undertale

On a more minor note, I think the weather couple became wasted potential. Two lovers drifting apart and getting back makes for very good melodrama, since y'know... We're supposed to be in a TV world?

Instead all we got from them was an unfunny trouple joke, an unfunny trouple fight and reuniting them in a shitty zelda clone. What a waste man. Loving heterosexual couples are haram in tumblristan I guess
Rouxls kind of sucks as a character. It might have sort-of worked if one of the games was a dating show, but that wouldn't solve the problem of Chapter 3's horrid pacing.
 
Tenna to me seems like he was literally just written for the purpose of being a meme character. Whereas Queen and Spamton were written normally and became meme characters because they were funny.
The problem is that Tenna is also a shit meme character. Spamton, Metaton and the Queen all ooze charm and personality every second they're on screen. There's literally never a dull moment with them around. They have so many iconic and funny moments and dialogue that its hard to pick one.

Tenna doesn't. He's just dull. Yeah ok, he doesn't want to be forgoten and is desperate because the dreamers don't watch tv, ok, that's a fine motivation, but you gotta actually do something with it.

He does the worst sin a character can do, he's worse than a bad character like alphys, he's a boring one.
 
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4chan tracers are hilarious.
 
The problem is that Tenna is also a shit meme character. Spamton, Metaton and the Queen all ooze charm and personality every second they're on screen. There's literally never a dull moment with them around. They have so many iconic and funny moments and dialogue that its hard to pick one.

Tenna doesn't. He's just dull. Yeah ok, he doesn't want to be forgoten and is desperate because the dreamers don't watch tv, ok, that's a fine motivation, but you gotta actually do something with it.

He does the worst sin a character can do, he's worse than a bad character like alphys, he's a boring one.
I'd argue Tenna's problem isn't that he's boring, it's that he doesn't get enough time to actually be an antagonist in the game. He gets like -- five or so lines after his gacha fight in which he berates his employees about not capturing you while doing fuck all himself.
And he gets completely abandoned by said employees after like, 20 minutes of screen time, which doesn't make him very intimidating.
Another problem is that his first fight fucking blows on repeat playthroughs. Compare that to Berdly's first fight, or all three of Lancers fights where there's always something new and unique going on, and they don't drag for five minutes.

There's a lot of potential in an antagonist who has a showmanship persona who values being entertaining over being effective in actually stopping you. But no, the most you get is backseat commentary while you play a worse Legend of Zelda.

Honestly, if chapter 3 had three sections to explore like every single other chapter does, I don't think Tenna would be nearly as boring. He's just dragged down by the gameplay around him.
 
man being "rewarded" with playing chapter 3 again after beating spamton neo makes me wanna paint the ceiling with my brain
on a second playthrough they even let you skip everything in the chapter and jump right into the fantabulous core content of the chapter, the real meat and potatoes, the thing we all came for... the knockoff zelda gameplay
and what happens when you get hit too many times in a fight or misremember one of the quizzes and youre going for secrets? thats right, youre fucked cuz theres no saving, you get to enjoy playing a shitty zelda game in a game all over again from the beginning.
 
man being "rewarded" with playing chapter 3 again after beating spamton neo makes me wanna paint the ceiling with my brain
My favourite part of Chapter 3 was after the Zelda bit where they went "Shit. We forgot. This is DELTARUNE!" and made a bunch of linear hallways for you to walk through.
>there was actually going to be a third Zelda segment but Toby cut it because even he knew it was going too long
>it's pretty much finished and can be played in full with some code manipulation

Grim.
Hopefully the festival isn't rammed with mini-games. Or if there is, have them be quick as fuck to do and be completely optional.

I genuinely believe CH3 was gonna be completely different in regards to the secret boss stuff, but Toby's mini-game autism took over and he ran out time so he fumbled and gave the Knight the Crystal. I mean shit, we can clearly see the Knights sword chip, so why wouldn't someone autistic about the details like Toby have the chipped sword carry over into future scenes with the Knight? Plus, ain't no way you have an "aware" character like Ramb not be the secret boss.
 
Tenna kinda sucks because we had "extravagant TV Show Host that makes you play through TV show themed shit" as a villain before in Undertale, and at least Mettaton had a banger theme.
It feels like Toby was trying very hard to make Tenna not just Mettaton 2, but this just makes him fall kinda flat.
Everything after Tenna's Spamton Sweepstakes style introduction is downhill for his character.
 
>there was actually going to be a third Zelda segment but Toby cut it because even he knew it was going too long
>it's pretty much finished and can be played in full with some code manipulation

Grim.
Hopefully the festival isn't rammed with mini-games. Or if there is, have them be quick as fuck to do and be completely optional.
I would've fucking played it. I actually liked the Zelda bits.
I guess that's why the 3rd map in the weird route is so detailed.
 
Tenna feels like a discount Spamton to me.
How the fuck do people keep going through the dialogue and constant occasional nods to spamton and him having beef and not get that was 100% intentional? They have literally the same nose and spamton has the same jacket as tenna in that one poster ad in chapter 2 (as well as on the car air freshener where he's driving a car you could get a while back on fangamer).

This constant thing is just as baffling as people referring to the mike guy as an "animatronic" when no, he's just a guy named mike. And he's "definitely the only mike".
 
I want to believe Roulx was intended to be as a character you love to hate, but that toby went to far with that.
He's a running gag character that's kinda there, but he's mostly harmless.
By the way: What was Spamton's deal? He left after getting a call and later realized he was tricked? Who called him? The Knight?
I wonder what would a smart-tv be in a Dark World.

4chan tracers are hilarious.
What are the hands in this context?
man being "rewarded" with playing chapter 3 again after beating spamton neo makes me wanna paint the ceiling with my brain
on a second playthrough they even let you skip everything in the chapter and jump right into the fantabulous core content of the chapter, the real meat and potatoes, the thing we all came for... the knockoff zelda gameplay
Spamton provides! All you need is to pay [ENOUGH] Kroma and you'll get a chance at [Hyperlink blocked]!
Just edit your save with all you needed (in the case of the Snowgrave Route, copy-paste the values you have from chapter 2). The Knight is not worth fighting multiple times IMO.

and what happens when you get hit too many times in a fight or misremember one of the quizzes and youre going for secrets? thats right, youre fucked cuz theres no saving, you get to enjoy playing a shitty zelda game in a game all over again from the beginning.
If you do too badly, you get a shortcut to that room. If you don't, you can pay a certain NP 1000+ points to get access to that room, but only once. Board 2 is easy to get max points.

Asriel was fucking Bratti and Catti at the same time.
I expected better taste. Then again he's a goat.

I would've fucking played it. I actually liked the Zelda bits.
Then edit your Chapter 3 savefile. That's what you have to do.
 
I would've fucking played it. I actually liked the Zelda bits.
Honestly I didn't them, but I can understand why people get bored of them. I think more people would've been fine with it if the rest of the chapter was engaging.
>Tenna a multiple points leaves the Zelda parts
>never expanded on
>Tenna on the phone with someone
>never expanded on

Again, feels to me that ch3 was supposed to be longer/different but Toby didn't have enough time because he was too busy making mini-games.

How the fuck do people keep going through the dialogue and constant occasional nods to spamton and him having beef and not get that was 100% intentional?
Tenna feels like a discount Spamton to me.
I think all the references were to establish that when Kris brought the laptop and other stuff home from the Librarby to play with, their Darkner forms were able to interact with each other despite being for separate Dark Worlds (and DWs not existing at the time).
So lets say if Kris when he was younger always brought the Ace of Spades card with him to church, Lancer would probably be friends with some of the church Darkners.
 
The only thing I didn't like in Chapter 4 was the "You're taking too long" dude talks like some old tumblr funnymen - specifically sandsvendor100 and fruitsoftheape100 (his blog has a probiscis monkey with its wiener out as its most recent post, so I wouldn't look at it in public). This stuff dates back to 2014, so it hasn't been relevant in over a decade.
IDK if you mean audio or spelling, but if it's the latter then given Toby's clear obsession with wordplay, metaphor, puns, etc. it seemed clear to me the whole reason that character was misspelling like that was to service the eventual "your too too" line.
 
Hopefully the festival isn't rammed with mini-games. Or if there is, have them be quick as fuck to do and be completely optional.
yeah i hope he sticks to just 1 or 2 that are actually fun and dont try to replace the main game for fucks sake.
the zelda game is the worst thing about chapter 3 to me but one of the best things is the guitar hero minigame, that shit was actually funny and enjoyable and didnt overstay its welcome
 
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