Law Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws - How many times do we need to strike this shit down?

FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the Federal Communications Commission is set to unveil plans next week for a final vote to reverse a landmark 2015 net neutrality order barring the blocking or slowing of web content, two people briefed on the plans said.

In May, the FCC voted 2-1 to advance Republican FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to withdraw the former Obama administration’s order reclassifying internet service providers as if they were utilities. Pai now plans to hold a final vote on the proposal at the FCC’s Dec. 14 meeting, the people said, and roll out details of the plans next week.

Pai asked in May for public comment on whether the FCC has authority or should keep any regulations limiting internet providers’ ability to block, throttle or offer “fast lanes” to some websites, known as “paid prioritization.” Several industry officials told Reuters they expect Pai to drop those specific legal requirements but retain some transparency requirements under the order.

An FCC spokesman declined to comment.

Internet providers including AT&T Inc, Comcast Corp and Verizon Communications Inc say ending the rules could spark billions in additional broadband investment and eliminate the possibility a future administration could regulate internet pricing.

Critics say the move could harm consumers, small businesses and access to the internet.

In July, a group representing major technology firms including Alphabet Inc and Facebook Inc urged Pai to drop plans to rescind the rules.

Advocacy group Free Press said Wednesday “we’ll learn the gory details in the next few days, but we know that Pai intends to dismantle the basic protections that have fueled the internet’s growth.”

Pai, who argues the Obama order was unnecessary and harms jobs and investment, has not committed to retaining any rules, but said he favors an “open internet.” The proposal to reverse the Obama rules reclassifying internet service has drawn more than 22 million comments.

Pai is mounting an aggressive deregulatory agenda since being named by President Donald Trump to head the FCC.

On Thursday the FCC will vote on Pai’s proposal to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. The proposal would make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market.

Pai is also expected to call for an initial vote in December to rescind rules that say one company may not own stations serving more than 39 percent of U.S. television households, two people briefed on the matter said.
Oh, and Comcast is already lobbying.

I'm so sick of this shit, seriously. The FCC is whoring out for Comcast and AT&T instead of ensuring that American citizens have equal access to the internet.
 
Did bike cuck just uncuck himself?
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Mister Metukor also made a video a while ago where he argued that abolishing Net Neutrality was necessary to balance the power of big platforms by giving more power to ISPs. In reality it would probably just create a two-tier system of oppression. Like in British India, where you were getting fucked both by your local ruler and the British (or in this case Comcast and Facebook) without either keeping the other in check much.

Also, this whole situation is kind of similar to what happened with SOPA in 2011, with disastrous bipartisan legislation being announced with only a very limited time before the vote.

People really seem to think that these companies are just going to "play nice". If things go badly enough for them, then Google might just start thinking about just buying out ISPs.
 
I try to stay positive when faced with things like these. I also truly believe along the same lines Secret Asshole said. Yeah we have huge corporations vying to abolish NN. We also have huge corporations that might not want it gone, and I don't think they're gonna spread their cheeks and request to be fucked.
Yeah, this is honestly something that makes me more hopefull than most. I may fucking hate Google and Amazon for the shit they pull on a regular basis; but they have money, means, and a reason to go after people we both despise if this goes through.
 
Even he knows no NN likely equals a Mad Max type future, due to a lot of the shite that follows in a society with no innovation and/or competition between/with business and entrepreneurships...

I guess a mad max future wouldn't exactly happen unless we get nuked. But even then, the most likely scenario is the rich are educated while the poor suffers. Also,no innovations.

Btw, the average life span of a human male is 79 years and rarely 80. If something happens like dying of old age possibly, then getting those old fossils replaced should be semi easy. Then againq, most of these republicans are me of likely in the 50s and 40s,so that's going to take awhile.
 
Once it's gone, is it impossible to go back? Like, if a Democrat wins the next election (I know, :story:) could they reinstate NN?
If this makes it through, it'd be piss-easy for them to turn reinstating NN into a major campaign platform. Make the internet great again. It'd also probably recapture the youth vote they pissed away with Hilary, given the sheer importance the internet has in the average millennial's life.
 
You're all expecting the Democrats to be competent and not the spineless creature it is now. They'll compromise the hell out of anything they do, like Obamacare. If not falling flat on their face at the onset, like trying to pass gun law reforms after a double digit spree killing. At best, you'll have a kinda-sorta-maybe reinstatement of NN.
 
If this makes it through, it'd be piss-easy for them to turn reinstating NN into a major campaign platform. Make the internet great again. It'd also probably recapture the youth vote they pissed away with Hilary, given the sheer importance the internet has in the average millennial's life.
NN would be a great platform for a democrat running in 2020 or 2018 if this goes through, but AT&T and Verizon gave $340,000 and $300,000 to Hillary's campaign respectively, and I would assume that they would only contribute more next time if NN is going to be a big issue. Also, it looks like AT&T gave $4.2 million to the RNC, and $1.5 million to the DNC. Point is, I wouldn't expect either side of the aisle to fight for NN too strongly.

What a world we live in where we're hoping for ultra-mega-corporations Google and Amazon (and Facebook?) to save the day.
 
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It's a band-aid. Companies keep getting bigger and control more, and we accept that, so long as the pretend to play ball with the FCC?

I don't really care about the FCC as such. I think it should be dissolved except for keeping it to do bullshit related to radio frequencies and its other duties should be handed over to a more competent body.

I more care about being able to access content I like without ISPs saying "no Kiwi Farms for you" or even "no Stormfront for you." If it turned out that the first company actually to do that went promptly out of business and every other ISP made it a policy not to do that because it would make them immediately non-competitive, I wouldn't care in the least.

It's the end result that matters, not the means.

When we're talking about net neutrality and doing away with it, we're talking about two different choices. The Internet continues to work, like it does now. Or a bunch of corporations who don't give a shit about the Internet itself get to make wild, radical experiments on it to see how much money they can extract from everyone. Sort of like taxes, except you don't get anything in return but a shittier Internet.

I don't see how it's conservative to prefer radical change to something that's currently working.
 
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