Law Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws - How many times do we need to strike this shit down?

FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the Federal Communications Commission is set to unveil plans next week for a final vote to reverse a landmark 2015 net neutrality order barring the blocking or slowing of web content, two people briefed on the plans said.

In May, the FCC voted 2-1 to advance Republican FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to withdraw the former Obama administration’s order reclassifying internet service providers as if they were utilities. Pai now plans to hold a final vote on the proposal at the FCC’s Dec. 14 meeting, the people said, and roll out details of the plans next week.

Pai asked in May for public comment on whether the FCC has authority or should keep any regulations limiting internet providers’ ability to block, throttle or offer “fast lanes” to some websites, known as “paid prioritization.” Several industry officials told Reuters they expect Pai to drop those specific legal requirements but retain some transparency requirements under the order.

An FCC spokesman declined to comment.

Internet providers including AT&T Inc, Comcast Corp and Verizon Communications Inc say ending the rules could spark billions in additional broadband investment and eliminate the possibility a future administration could regulate internet pricing.

Critics say the move could harm consumers, small businesses and access to the internet.

In July, a group representing major technology firms including Alphabet Inc and Facebook Inc urged Pai to drop plans to rescind the rules.

Advocacy group Free Press said Wednesday “we’ll learn the gory details in the next few days, but we know that Pai intends to dismantle the basic protections that have fueled the internet’s growth.”

Pai, who argues the Obama order was unnecessary and harms jobs and investment, has not committed to retaining any rules, but said he favors an “open internet.” The proposal to reverse the Obama rules reclassifying internet service has drawn more than 22 million comments.

Pai is mounting an aggressive deregulatory agenda since being named by President Donald Trump to head the FCC.

On Thursday the FCC will vote on Pai’s proposal to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. The proposal would make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market.

Pai is also expected to call for an initial vote in December to rescind rules that say one company may not own stations serving more than 39 percent of U.S. television households, two people briefed on the matter said.
Oh, and Comcast is already lobbying.

I'm so sick of this shit, seriously. The FCC is whoring out for Comcast and AT&T instead of ensuring that American citizens have equal access to the internet.
 

Is any of this debunkable?

Some Nutcase on YT said:
This is what will happen if they repeal Net Neutrality!

1. There will be a fee for everything you want to see or access. This means a Fee separate fee for Facebook, YouTube, Netflix, etc.. Just by your ISP. This will above what you pay for the service. (Micro Transactions for everything!)

2. Your privacy will be gone Completely the Government will now spy on you legally.

3. Small business that run on the internet will go out of business since they will not get any traffic to their sites without paying their ISP a fee to get traffic. (They will be Blocked) This will flood the job market with people put out of work. Thousands of companies will go out of business over night. Even GoDaddy and other hosting companies will drastically be affected and might go out of business if thousands of web sites cannot afford the ISP fee to get traffic. (Site Cancelations!)

4. Less IT jobs will be available since large server farms will not be needed as much since many will not be able to afford there service anymore, this means less Shopping, Banking, or the use of any other online services that records need to be kept, like your passwords etc...

5. Prices on everything will go up! Since many will cancel their services since they cannot afford them. The ones that remain with a service will have to bear the cost.

6. It will affect the whole economy, everything from banking online, to Shopping online and even doing things like trading Stock online there will extra fees.

7. You will only be able to go to sites that the ISP redirects you to. If the Web site has not paid a fee to the ISP you will never even know it’s there they will be blocked.

8. Your internet speed will be throttled to very slow speeds unless you pay a hefty free to speed it up. (Might as well go back to dialup!) Extra cost on top of all other fees.

9. No more surfing the net, it will be too costly, it will eat up your data allowance for the month.

10. Gaming with Xbox, PS4 or PC will be prohibitive due to the speeds needed to pay lag free and most that will not be able to pay the fee involved. This will put businesses that support this industry out of business due to people not buying their gear anymore since they cannot use it without lag or have no internet access, and in effect even potentially put companies like EA out of business at some point since most of their games are internet based people will stop buying them since they cannot play them online anymore.

11. Shopping online will decline drastically, No internet no Shopping! Cost will be passed on!

12. You will have NO say in what you can see online, what websites you visit, games you play, interests you have, it will all be governed by if that website can afford to pay ALL the ISP providers a fee to send traffic to them. If they can’t you don’t see it.

13. Your personal information can be and will be sold and spied upon by the ISP the government and anyone else that wants it or buys it.

14. You will not be allowed to view see any information other than what they want you to see. Any other political viewpoints other than there’s will be blocked.

15. You will not be able to go directly to your favorite website anymore if they have not paid their fee to the ISP. They will be blocked and you will be redirected to a site that has paid their fee.

16. Netflix and other will raise their fees to pay the fees they have to, too the ISPs. And you will pay the ISP a fee to have fast enough speed to view shows lag free. So, you will pay twice.

17. Any Company that uses the internet in anyway will have to pay extra fees to get any traffic at all to their sites even the big companies and the cost will be passed down to the little guy.

18. You will be told and controlled what sites you can see and get too since there will be a limited amount of internet sites they approve of or that have paid their fees to get traffic.

19. Total censorship of what you see and watch Simply put the cost of the internet, for most will be prohibitive, many businesses will go out of business, Cost and fee’s will go up for everyone, It will cost many jobs in the IT and gaming industry, Online Shopping will decline, Banking and trading will decline online.

20. In Effect it will throw us back to the dialup stone age! Unless you pay,pay,pay! And even then, you will not be able to access what you want if they don’t like it!

Is anything in THIS debunkable, as well?
 
Who will be the first to throttle YouTube back to a 1998 bit rate?
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For all the people melting down, these regulations can always be put back in place if need be.

Yeah, that's why I just enjoy the salt. net-neutrality got put in place because they worried about the power the ISPs had with their quasi-monopoly and decided to band-aid the problem.
If the ISPs powers aren't diminished, and competition forced within the next 4/8 years, then all that's going to happen is a new campaign for net-neutrality. And it will pass. I mean what was the stats? 88% for net neutrality?
 
17 year old girls, redditors, furries, and big, free speech friendly corporations like Google, Facebook, Amazon and Twitter wanted net neutrality. Because without it then the Internet that has lasted fine without it up until 2015 will now die or something.
 
Yeah, that's why I just enjoy the salt. net-neutrality got put in place because they worried about the power the ISPs had with their quasi-monopoly and decided to band-aid the problem.
If the ISPs powers aren't diminished, and competition forced within the next 4/8 years, then all that's going to happen is a new campaign for net-neutrality. And it will pass. I mean what was the stats? 88% for net neutrality?

That sounds awesome - sorry I had to rate you "Optimistic", but I fear that's what what you're suggesting is, awesome as it sounds and knowing how many people would love for this to happen, regardless of political stances, alignments, and/or creedos.
 
17 year old girls, redditors, furries, and big, free speech friendly corporations like Google, Facebook, Amazon and Twitter wanted net neutrality. Because without it then the Internet that has lasted fine without it up until 2015 will now die or something.

As a 17 year old gril that frequents furry sub-reddits and identifies as Google-kin, I can confirm that this is LITERALLY MURDERING the internet and I am crying rn.
 
That sounds awesome - sorry I had to rate you "Optimistic", but I fear that's what what you're suggesting is, awesome as it sounds and knowing how many people would love for this to happen, regardless of political stances, alignments, and/or creedos.

My bad, I didn't mean to suggest that it would happen. I meant to suggest that it has to happen, or else this whole repeal will be undone in 4/8 years. To me, it's the only possible way to make this repeal somewhat permanent.
 
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I’m feeling better now than I was earlier today and I apologize for my anxiety-driven sperg fit. I just lost my cool for a bit.

Pai is a shithead, yes, but it seems like there’s a million and one ways for this to fail, and only like one for it to succeed without getting watered down to practically nothing. As a kiwi farmer, I can’t, in all honesty, say that I wouldn’t troll the shit out of salty people like he’s doing.
 
My bad, I didn't mean to suggest that it would happen. I meant to suggest that it has to happen, or else this whole repeal will be undone in 4/8 years.

And I agree that it does need to happen - so people don't riot over this. Because there are crazies out there who will, and who can blame them???
 
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