Law Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws - How many times do we need to strike this shit down?

FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the Federal Communications Commission is set to unveil plans next week for a final vote to reverse a landmark 2015 net neutrality order barring the blocking or slowing of web content, two people briefed on the plans said.

In May, the FCC voted 2-1 to advance Republican FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to withdraw the former Obama administration’s order reclassifying internet service providers as if they were utilities. Pai now plans to hold a final vote on the proposal at the FCC’s Dec. 14 meeting, the people said, and roll out details of the plans next week.

Pai asked in May for public comment on whether the FCC has authority or should keep any regulations limiting internet providers’ ability to block, throttle or offer “fast lanes” to some websites, known as “paid prioritization.” Several industry officials told Reuters they expect Pai to drop those specific legal requirements but retain some transparency requirements under the order.

An FCC spokesman declined to comment.

Internet providers including AT&T Inc, Comcast Corp and Verizon Communications Inc say ending the rules could spark billions in additional broadband investment and eliminate the possibility a future administration could regulate internet pricing.

Critics say the move could harm consumers, small businesses and access to the internet.

In July, a group representing major technology firms including Alphabet Inc and Facebook Inc urged Pai to drop plans to rescind the rules.

Advocacy group Free Press said Wednesday “we’ll learn the gory details in the next few days, but we know that Pai intends to dismantle the basic protections that have fueled the internet’s growth.”

Pai, who argues the Obama order was unnecessary and harms jobs and investment, has not committed to retaining any rules, but said he favors an “open internet.” The proposal to reverse the Obama rules reclassifying internet service has drawn more than 22 million comments.

Pai is mounting an aggressive deregulatory agenda since being named by President Donald Trump to head the FCC.

On Thursday the FCC will vote on Pai’s proposal to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. The proposal would make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market.

Pai is also expected to call for an initial vote in December to rescind rules that say one company may not own stations serving more than 39 percent of U.S. television households, two people briefed on the matter said.
Oh, and Comcast is already lobbying.

I'm so sick of this shit, seriously. The FCC is whoring out for Comcast and AT&T instead of ensuring that American citizens have equal access to the internet.
 
You know, if Pai is sued out the ass and goes to jail for this AND the fcc is restructured so that this doesn't happen again, it'll have all been worth it.

I like to imagine him being a smug ass for getting NN thrown out, but then it backfires magnificently and he winds up poor, in jail and having NN reinstated.... He thinks he's won, but by "winning" he's thrown his life into the shitter.
Sued under what exactly?

These are the same shit posting states whose AG's wasted 6 months of tax payer dollars suing Trump over his travel ban only to lose at the Supreme Court because everyone knew Trump had the authority to do it in the first place.

If the FCC had the authority to pass NN, then they had the authority to repeal it.
 
Sued under what exactly?

These are the same shit posting states whose AG's wasted 6 months of tax payer dollars suing Trump over his travel ban only to lose at the Supreme Court because everyone knew Trump had the authority to do it in the first place.

If the FCC had the authority to pass NN, then they had the authority to repeal it.

The suit largely has to do with the fact the FCC stole people's identities, many of them dead, to falsify the public support for this.
 
Sued under what exactly?

These are the same shit posting states whose AG's wasted 6 months of tax payer dollars suing Trump over his travel ban only to lose at the Supreme Court because everyone knew Trump had the authority to do it in the first place.

If the FCC had the authority to pass NN, then they had the authority to repeal it.

Half the Democrats voter rolls are dead people, I'm not sure what the problem is?

Are you sure you want to try and get into a fight with a bunch of outraged kiwis?
 
Mark Cuban also is against NN. I'm sure the rational well minded pro-NN people in this thread will respond with good counterarguments. Or wish that Mark will die and rate my post as dumb. One of those two for sure.

So...he dislikes NN...because its hating on corporations that have routinely fucked over their customers, broken agreements, took money and left promises unfulfilled? His whole fucking argument is 'Don't hate big companies guys, they totally won't try and fuck you out of your money'

Are you fucking kidding me? His entire defense of it is 'I'm a capitalist and regulations are bad and you should trust greedy companies to not abuse the monopolies they are given'. That's the stupidest fucking shit I've ever heard. And it doesn't matter for him, because he has billions so he can pay whatever.

You're a fucking re.tarded autist if you don't think Telecoms won't try and take advantage of this and exploit the huge privileges they have. Want to switch? Oh wait, Comcast has this little fiefdom upon agreement with other ISPs. Sorry, no choice for you. You want better internet in rural areas? They paid us to put down infrastructure, but lol we just took the money and didn't do it. We also stopped legislation of the state from making its own ISP on this promise fucking lol. Oh, and we cry like little bitches every time a state rolls out a plan that shows we're full of shit when we say we can't invest in infrastructure, its too expensive, so we just have our lawyers quash it.

If you trust companies, especially fucking ISPs, to NOT abuse this to get more money out of you, you really are a fucking idiot. Its not going to happen today, or tomorrow. They will wait and then they will fuck you. Its happened with them constantly.
 
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So...he dislikes NN...because its hating on corporations that have routinely fucked over their customers, broken agreements, took money and left promises unfulfilled? His whole fucking argument is 'Don't hate big companies guys, they totally won't try and fuck you out of your money'

Are you fucking kidding me? His entire defense of it is 'I'm a capitalist and regulations are bad and you should trust greedy companies to not abuse the monopolies they are given'. That's the stupidest fucking shit I've ever heard. And it doesn't matter for him, because he has billions so he can pay whatever. That is the dumbest attack on NN I've heard.
overregulation is what made it impossible for competition to survive in the first place, and now more regulation is supposedly the solution? what a catch 22.

nevermind that making the internet a utility would literally be giving ISPs monopolies

also, your choice of words seems to imply you're not fond of capitalists?
 
overregulation is what made it impossible for competition to survive in the first place, and now more regulation is supposedly the solution? what a catch 22.

nevermind that making the internet a utility would literally be giving ISPs monopolies

also, your choice of words seems to imply you're not fond of capitalists?
The end of NN means E621 becomes more expensive for you to browse.
 
Corporations exist to make money. They can give a shit about their consumers, unless it hits their bottom line. So if they can fuck you just enough that you will still pay them but be fucked, they will. Anyone who thinks different has never studied industry in the early half of the 20th century. (and I'm not talking actual in-depth study. I mean like, learned about it in high school. Because that's the level of education on it you'd need to know this).
 
Corporations exist to make money. They can give a shit about their consumers, unless it hits their bottom line. So if they can fuck you just enough that you will still pay them but be fucked, they will. Anyone who thinks different has never studied industry in the early half of the 20th century. (and I'm not talking actual in-depth study. I mean like, learned about it in high school. Because that's the level of education on it you'd need to know this).
lacking competition is what allows them to fuck you as hard as they do

that's the entire reason we came up with anti-trust
 
lacking competition is what allows them to fuck you as hard as they do

that's the entire reason we came up with anti-trust

Lack of competition and NN are two totally different things. I have no idea why people think NN adds MORE regulation, when it's literally just a regulation saying "The internet should be the way it's always been since inception."

Now that there's a lack of competition, and NN is gone, ISPs can do whatever the fuck they want and you have no choice but to pay them. NN at least meant that they couldn't stick it in your ass, while also fucking your mouth.
 
Lack of competition and NN are two totally different things. I have no idea why people think NN adds MORE regulation, when it's literally just a regulation saying "The internet should be the way it's always been since inception."
how the fuck can you think the internet is anything even resembling what it's been since inception. if you've never signed up for geocities you have no clue what you're talking about

advertisers have become the godkings of the internet and SEO has turned discovering anything new and innovative into a near impossibility.

everything sucks now and has sucked for the past 10+ years
 
overregulation is what made it impossible for competition to survive in the first place, and now more regulation is supposedly the solution? what a catch 22.

nevermind that making the internet a utility would literally be giving ISPs monopolies

also, your choice of words seems to imply you're not fond of capitalists?
The entire reason the NN came to be the way we know it now is because they kept getting sued for abusing their consumer based and because courts deemed their actions illegal.

If these corporations were truly concerned about revitalizing competition and curbing overregulation, they would be lobbying for an overhaul of the city and county restrictions regarding the construction of IOS servers and infrastructure that place a huge barrier of entry on many companies or only allow for one company to operate in a district at a time - not the provisions put in place to serve as legal grounds in the event of misconduct in the form of anti-competion or anti-consumer policies.
 
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The entire reason the NN came to be the way we know it now is because they kept getting sued for abusing their consumer based and because courts deemed their actions illegal.

If these corporations were truly concerned about revitalizing competition and curbing overregulation, they would be lobbying for an overhaul of the city and county restrictions regarding the construction of IOS servers and infrastructure that place a huge barrier of entry on many companies or only allow for one company to operate in a district at a time - not the provisions put in place to serve as legal grounds in the event of misconduct in the form of anti-competion or anti-consumer policies.
do you not find it the least bit strange all cable-based ISPs are all pro-NN and all telecomms-based ISPs are against it?
 
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how the fuck can you think the internet is anything even resembling what it's been since inception. if you've never signed up for geocities you have no clue what you're talking about

advertisers have become the godkings of the internet and SEO has turned discovering anything new and innovative into a near impossibility.

everything sucks now and has sucked for the past 10+ years


Oh no the ads. You’re right. Let’s let ISPs charge us three times for a quarter the service.

Of course the internet has changed, but it’s always been accessible regardless of whether you can afford it. Are we supposed to cry because Geocities is gone? I’m so sad that we don’t have 1200 poorly designed sites dedicated to Mulder/Cancer man slash.
 
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Oh no the ads. You’re right. Let’s let ISPs charge us three times for a quarter the service.

Of course the internet has changed, but it’s always been accessible regardless of whether you can afford it. Are we supposed to cry because Geocities is gone? I’m so sad that we don’t have 1200 poorly designed sites dedicated to Mulder/Cancer man slash.
lmao, so pointing out the observation that you now disagree with was dumb must mean I think Geocities will deliver us to the promised land
 
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No I mean that you’re so worried about everyone fucking you you don’t even feel the new dick that the NN repeal slipped in.
Addressing why you think the internet hasn't changed since its inception (that you've now beckpedalled on) was pretty important to address if there was to be any hope of having a talk with you about NN that's grounded in reality
 
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