US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[NSA Intern]

This right here is everything wrong with Trump in general, he is indecisive not taking a side and in doing so he pisses off everyone.

He is seen by the public and by American allies as pro Putin when that isn't really accurate, he just wants peace and it's clear he only wants peace so he can say he did it and brag about ending the war or so he can spend the money on some other stupid project or send it to Israel.

Here is the thing though by taking this retarded approach he gets none of the benefits of being pro Russia or pro Ukraine. He already pissed off our allies and caused them to hate us and retaliate, but he isn't going to be able to get concessions out of Russia and BRICS by being pro Russia .

He did this with guns to where when America had a bunch of mass shooting she passed gun control but the left still saw him as an NRA gun nut who is killing kids.

The chinaman cannot comprehend not playing nepotism, and instead punishing both for bad behavior until behavior improves

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

I think he's just trying to show he can be hard on Russia too. I don't think Russia will care that much based on being sanctioned to shit already.

Tariffs are an effective way to twist your neighbors arm into being ever so slightly less retarded than before the arm twisting, so Russia isn't exempt from being called out for their bullshit by someone who actually knows how to use them (See: TSMC and Honda).

 

[Bindo]

Holy fuck he just implied the assassin(s) may have been spooks. This man tells it like it is!

If I were the Vindmans, I'd be real fuckin' nervous.

 

[ScorbusMeaty]

Trump knows what America is worth. 'Allies' will lie through their teeth, Eurofags will feign ignorance and pretend we're doing worse than ever, and third world media will attempt to force this fake narrative that we're the bad guys and they can easily get by without us, but the tariff threats speak volumes about the real truth.

They NEED America to get by. We're like the 50 year old dad working his ass off on a 40+ hour schedule, and everyone else has been leeching off our living for the last 4 years.

Now Trump's putting his foot down and saying they need to help around the house and find a real job soon, or their ass is gonna be out on the street by the end of the month.

 

[Niggergante]

Anyone who argues with their parents about politics rather than just nodding along and changing the subject is a giga retard who should be taken out of the will.

Unfortunately for me it's usually my dad instigating and bringing up Trump and how evil for no reason. Naturally, as that kind is apt to do, he doesn't have a conversation he just talks over you when he hears a different opinion, even if it wasn't really an argument.

My point being is sometimes it's not the kids that are crazy.

 

[marvlouslie]

Democrats want slaves. It's as shrimple as that.

Democrats have never completely gotten over the Civil War. This is why they want to push the "big party switch" lie so much. There was no "party switch". They've always been the party of slavery and the KKK.

 

[Breadbassket]

I think he's just trying to show he can be hard on Russia too. I don't think Russia will care that much based on being sanctioned to shit already.

Sanctions appear to have more impact when they're done to a country who does a great deal of trading with the countries sanctioning it. The issue is that over time the country that is being targeted can adapt to them and if it survives the initial shock effectively it can still somewhat function as a state afterwards. For example Cuba and North Korea are still around despite international trade restrictions lasting for decades now.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

These types of article are making the rounds and I'm swamped at the moment and want to know if it's an actual mistake, simply tagged in the raw database (Which btw why the fuck would AP even have access to such?) to be hand sifted through for actual curation. Or is it just leftoid hand wringers once again pulling the "sources familiar with the thinking of the subject" circle jerking media magic trick that has no grounding in reality?

Ground News clump of links

Since the new leftoid groundswell is "Trump erasing Enola Gay to own DEI"

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We have to bring the left to the table. Let’s throw them a bone and rename it Enola Faggot

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

Sanctions appear to have more impact when they're done to a country who does a great deal of trading with the countries sanctioning it. The issue is that over time the country that is being targeted can adapt to them and if it survives the initial shock effectively it can still somewhat function as a state afterwards. Cuba and North Korea come to mind who despite not exactly being first world by any means their governments are still alive and well.

Well that's what I mean sanctions can be brutal until the countries adapt. Like I mean of anything Russias economy is not doing well and I'm off thread topic here but it made them stronger. Trump imposing sanctions is like a drop in a full bucket.

 

[Jace on ice]

Trump will never receive the Nobel Peace prize but he should. He's probably done more to advance peace and anti war more than anyone in my lifetime.

 

[mold]

It actually is. Acquisition cost matters, and very few cheap goods are "actually" more expensive than premium goods.

e.g. a decent, Chinese-made Black & Decker blender is about $40, and an American-made Vitamix is $700. Sure, the B&D will need to be replaced a few times, but not 20 times.

You can get a decent American-made sofa for around $2300. But a $450 cheap import can easily last a decade (source: my $450 sofa turns 10 next year). No, there's not some secret $2000 cost I'm incurring by not having bought an American sofa when I had no money (and when I finally get a good one, total cost will be cheaper than if I'd borrowed money to buy an American sofa).



You're acting like everyone was buying handcrafted chairs and tailored suits before 1994. Cheap, mass-produced factory goods were driving out artisanal goods in the first half of the 20th century. The era of every chair being an heirloom ended before my Boomer parents were born. That Formica garbage from the 1950s doesn't represent some necessary civilizational skill that we need to recover.

you're evading the creation of a market for the huge influx of goods no one needs and not in the sense of "you don't akshooally need a chair you can sit on the floor," but in the bubble machine sense, which again was the point of the comment you originally responded to

you're also stuck on dirt cheap/very expensive binary again which is not going to be the case going forward if this all works. american-made (as we all know that just means american-assembled but let's move on) are currently only made for the high end market because *without tariffs* it's impossible to compete on the cheap with products coming from countries without labor protections and enviromental regulations. but if tariffs allow for the production of a $250 blender, that you buy once, and that extra cost also pays for your retard cousin to have a job on the line instead of being a useless misery to everyone around him, reduces Asian pollution, and reduces waste because it's repairable, maybe we the American people want to pay that cost there at the checkout instead of in gibs and cancer and dead birds and fish.

you've also created an entirely new bullshit contrast, between the pre-industrial handcraft world and the current world of totally globalized industiral production, I am in no way acting like everyone was wearing bespoke and hiring cabinetmakers before 1994, talking about the creation of halloween costumes and shade mechanics is not the equivalent of pretending everyone was making their own shit, this argument is in bad faith.

I actually super duper agree that it's been great to have $75 blenders, $100 vacuum cleaners, and something that rarely gets brought up here because I'm one of the only mothers, incredibly afforable children's shoes and jackets. Like you I remember the previous situation. But again, not a binary, this time not between all good or all bad. There have been a lot of great things about cheap consumer goods but also a lot of bad things and it's time for a correction from the bad.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Outside of clown world, this would invalidate a looot of things Biden "signed." But there's NO WAY IN HELL anyone wants to pull the pin on that one.

Toss that grenade here. I'll get that pin out.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Democrats have never completely gotten over the Civil War. This is why they want to push the "big party switch" lie so much. There was no "party switch". They've always been the party of slavery and the KKK.

"NOOOO! THE PARTY THAT LITERALLY FOUGHT TO END SLAVERY IS THE RACIST PARTY"

Yeah, whatever.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

$100 vacuum cleaners, and something that rarely gets brought up here because I'm one of the only mothers, incredibly afforable children's shoes and jackets.

Kirby or gtfo

I need a vacuum with a happy ending attachment that rests on the shoulders of AMERICAN slave labor

 

[NSA Intern]

Trump to give imminent remarks

 

[Karl Jobst's Asian Wife]

As someone living in Japan and having been to Germany alot as well, no the Germans do not have it in them, Japanese people do.

Japanese people punch annoying livestreamers and restaurants and landlords discriminate against foreigners. They even discriminate against Koreans who, in our eyes, all look same.

Germans get raped and killed by muzzies and not only do they nothing, they vote for more brown immigration.

 

[Rcorp Rabbit 2]

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[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

Using Trump2.0 economic logic (my previous post has sources) here is how tariffs may not increase prices for US consumers. A mixture of these methods is expected.

Tariff offset by foreign currency exchange rate.
In the first Trump administration tarrifs increased 17.9% against China, and were offset by China's currency exchanging for 13.7% less USD.
America is able to pull this off because USD is the global reserve currency.

Importer eats cost.
Real world data shows middleman import companies pay the brunt of the cost increase.
Example:
America-made item $2 each.
$1 Chinese item sold at $1.90 each.
25% tariff makes Chinese item $1.25, but importer keeps selling at $1.90. Importer eats 25¢ increase.

American made products more affordable.
Reduce the cost of regulation compliance.
Reduce corporate income tax rate.
Reduce labor costs (no tax on overtime or tips)
Reduce energy prices ("drill baby drill")

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There are more methods and details than this, but I tried to explain the most obvious and straightforward methods.

Nobody knows for certain if Trump's economic solutions will work. Tariffs haven't been used this heavily by America in 100 years.

 

[mold]

just to continue to sperg about the impact of cheap asian crap flooding the market: something I think Americans rarely fully realize is that we got boned from both sides, other countries don't have our on steroids regulatory environment plus hypereffective enforcement plus extremely, extremely lawabiding populace

so you have stuff that's too cheap to fix plus the lady who used to run a dress shop where you could get stuff altered can't afford to be in business anymore because her landlord got hit with so much nonsense from the city that he sold the building

even when people are generally aware of the INSANE ANTIBUSINESS ANTIHUMAN regulatory crap they don't often have a good sense of how it interleaves - it's not as simple as the dressmaker lady got hit with dressmaker regulations, and so it's super hard to tell the story to people so they can get it and apply it to everything that's happening around them

we just feel the malaise, we feel the happiness and meaning sapping out the world, but if you try to explain to people that this is happening because of some regulations about sewage or bugs or earthquake retrofitting they can't hook that bureaucratic stuff up to seeing their entire world turn into a strip mall and a big box store.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Trump to give imminent remarks

“I am here to announce that Hasan piker will battle Sam Hyde to the death on nation tv”