US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Breadbassket]

If people really want to solve the problem, there is perhaps a radical insane solution to fix the housing crisis but it may involve colonialism and getting denounced by the United Nations.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

Why do you say that when this is coming from Desantis? He may very well be compromised, and this reminds me of catboy Fuentes, "your body, our choice" thing in regards to abortion, which I suspect is some kind of glowop to make right-wingers look bad.

It’s patently obvious he’s compromised by Israel, but what do they stand to gain from him posting about legal immigration?

 

[The Last Stand]

Can somebody explain what is happening? I'm hearing something about 50 year old mortgages. Does that mean that houses will default to 50 years worth of payments?

 

[Aisin Gioro Puyi]

If people really want to solve the problem, there is perhaps a radical insane solution to fix the housing crisis but it may involve colonialism and getting denounced by the United Nations.

annex canada, push out the natives, and put american patriots there
it was promised to us 250 years ago

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Can somebody explain what is happening? I'm hearing something about 50 year old mortgages. Does that mean that houses will default to 50 years worth of payments?

Trump wants to people to buy homes under 50 year mortgages on the idea it will make the payments easier to make I guess I dunno.

 

[Delany's Donkey]

Jewish propaganda

we don't give the greatest generation enough shit for getting one shotted by the cringiest and most obvious propaganda of all time. I know it was a different time and people were much more naive back then but this shit is so condescending it's insulting. at least with something like "the house i live in" Sinatra was talking to actual children when he was saying this retarded shit.

 

[FlappyBat]

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what's the point

It won't make financial sense for everyone. I'm not saying it will.

Spoiler: finance sperging

Mortgage loans on a primary residence have just about the most favorable tax treatment and conditions of any loan available to the average person. Comparing nominal dollars over a 30 year or 50 timespan gives misleading analysis. As well as not including equity in the home and assuming the person spends the difference instead of invests.

Having access to a loan where if you are itemizing taxes you can write off ordinary income tax. Having an investment with $500k capital gains exemption for a married couple. Having a fixed rate loan that is not callable and you can ratchet down as interest rates drop for fairly cheap. Having an investment that has significant bankruptcy protection. Tax arbitrage due to imputed income verse real income.

But none of any of that matters if your decision making can be summed up as: Oh shit, I can afford a 3 times more expensive house that I don't need if I take out the 50 year instead of the 30.

Sorry, boomers were told buying houses is an investment plan. That means the government needs to keep home prices rising until nobody can afford one. But don't worry. You'll own nothing and be happy! The cricket paste will be surprisingly affordable.

Boomers and their fucking consequences. They will deserve the nursing homes they get.

 

[Martian High Command]

seeing people freak out about this has been funny, this is not really remarkable in israel

I AM NOW A ZIONIST

 

[The Last Stand]

Trump wants to people to buy homes under 50 year mortgages on the idea it will make the payments easier to make I guess I dunno.
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Who wants to keep paying something off for 50 years?

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

we don't give the greatest generation enough shit for getting one shotted by the cringiest and most obvious propaganda of all time. I know it was a different time and people were much more naive back then but this shit is so condescending it's like it was made for actual children.

Wearing masks and “social distancing” were just as stupid, and they were pushed by even more idiotic propaganda, but look at how many people fell for it.

It won't make financial sense for everyone. I'm not saying it will.

Spoiler: finance sperging

Mortgage loans on a primary residence have just about the most favorable tax treatment and conditions of any loan available to the average person. Comparing nominal dollars over a 30 year or 50 timespan gives misleading analysis. As well as not including equity in the home and assuming the person spends the difference instead of invests.

Having access to a loan where if you are itemizing taxes you can write off ordinary income tax. Having an investment with $500k capital gains exemption for a married couple. Having a fixed rate loan that is not callable and you can ratchet down as interest rates drop for fairly cheap. Having an investment that has significant bankruptcy protection. Tax arbitrage due to imputed income verse real income.

But none of any of that matters if your decision making can be summed up as: Oh shit, I can afford a 3 times more expensive house that I don't need if I take out the 50 year instead of the 30.


Boomers and their fucking consequences. They will deserve the nursing homes they get.

Translate this into English please

 

[King Metalia]

Wearing masks and “social distancing” were just as stupid, and they were pushed by even more idiotic propaganda, but look at how many people fell for it.

Yah know it's funny. Every time i hear the phrase "social distancing" I'm overcome with the overwhelming desire to deck Nancy Pelosi in the face.

 

[Breadbassket]

But none of any of that matters if your decision making can be summed up as: Oh shit, I can afford a 3 times more expensive house that I don't need if I take out the 50 year instead of the 30.

Looking at the policy in the most positive way possible, 50 year mortgages don't exactly do much to address housing supply issues.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Who wants to keep paying something off for 50 years?

The idea I guess is to be able to get a house with affordable payments. The loan doesn’t have to actually be for 50 years you can always refinance or pay it off early as you go from young and low wage to further up the payscale.

Of course if that’s how it actually works is the question.

 

[MeltyTW]

Trump is speedrunning the death of the populist right and you're BLACKPILLING?????

Spoiler: yapping

troll but perfect thing for a thought bouncing around in my head. i think trumps handlers are purposefully trying to do a few things, make inefficient but showy things thatll ultimately fail to reenergize white slaves to israel but not letting them hold real power or actually giving them what they want trying to haggle down demographic recover to "well we beat a brown child or some shit" and using that to try and shame the right, to make it back into just being the left except more openly tolerating zionist war crimes.

thing is no one cares about the browns since our sympathy was abused and we know it. i dont care if trump uses mexican kids as target practice for his flamethrower line, no one does. and i dont care if momdani will beat women and make whores cover up. frankly fuck em. the choices jews have are not "groom the right to be your slaves again if you beat them down enough" its "help the right so non white anti zionists dont chimp out and kill us for israel and for our usury or theyre put down" or the white men beaten down and realizing theres no options also just join the chimp out, check out, steal shit, form gangs and generally wave the middle finger at the us of israel.

saw some dumb jew bitch complain that the young republican groups now have "racist chat groups" denouncing israel jokingly rather than being clean cut men like her husband she met, basically just assuming right wing political groups exist for her to to subvert and to get her wet. thats not an option anymore. the options for trumps handlers are how many enemies do they want.

It’s patently obvious he’s compromised by Israel, but what do they stand to gain from him posting about legal immigration?

like in my spoilered rant it could be his handlers are still under the impression right wingers will back off if the browns have sob stories, or it could be if im being hopeful his handlers realizing that actually the country they rely on being ran by negroids that hate them is actually bad for them, making this a more genuine if self serving pivot.

 

[CoolFool]

I'm glad to see over on Twitter basically no one is supporting this stupid 50 year mortgage idea. Everyone needs to loudly oppose it. One good thing about Trump is that if he sees enough public outcry about something from his base, he usually will reevaluate and change course or back off.

 

[Dread First]

I think I'm gonna wait until the inevitable crash in value once the last of the boomers die off. Why sign up for 50 years of debt slavery when demographic collapse is gonna happen during our own lifetimes, there'll be an extreme oversupply of housing that not even BlackRock and its ilk would be able to tolerate after buying countless homes for speculative investments, and I can't even afford full rent for a single-bedroom apartment? Renter's rights are way more robust than housing "ownership." Thanks to ass-backward city slicker legislation, I can actually avoid paying rent with minimal consequence and it would ultimately be a civil affair where I can stay where I'm living. It's shitty, but it's possible. Defaulting on a mortgage means that the bank can take my house as collateral and I'd still be on the hook for years to come.

You seriously can't fool young people who lived through the 2008 financial crisis and more than likely witnessed parents or relatives or parents of friends arguing over how their house costs too much now and they can't afford the mortgage. Nihilism's gay because I ain't a German philosopher having a mental breakdown at the sight of an abused horse, but the Trump administration gravely underestimates just how pessimistic the 25-35+ age bracket is. I'm personally optimistic insofar as trade policy and the revival of Monroe Doctrine/Roosevelt Corollary being used to literally kill narcoterrorists coming from Colombia and Venezuela. You can't pay me enough, however, to think that a 50-year mortgage is anything but a desperate ploy from bankers that somehow managed to get a direct line to the President for more debt slavery shekels.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

The idea I guess is to be able to get a house with affordable payments.

it will not make a real difference. If you're paying 1800 a month on a 30 year mortgage, it will be 1600 a month on a 50 year mortgage

We live in a usurious hell of your people’s making

That's what the Paddy wants you to think:





The Eternal Hibernian strikes again

 

[Delany's Donkey]

Of course if that’s how it actually works is the question.

all it's going to do is bring the median prices of housing up.

Trump is trying to appeal to the younger generation who wants to be able to afford a house while also trying to keep his boomer base, banks and mega corps that owns all the houses happy but it's impossible. Their interests are diametrically opposed so we just get retarded nonsense that everyone hates.

 

[The Last Stand]

Why sign up for 50 years of debt slavery when demographic collapse is gonna happen during our own lifetimes, there'll be an extreme oversupply of housing that not even BlackRock and its ilk would be able to tolerate after buying countless homes for speculative investments, and I can't even afford full rent for a single-bedroom apartment?

It better come with a 60 year old woman of my choosing.

 

[Caligura]

At some point, the FAA cuts will inevitably impact a Lolita Express flight and those niggas are gonna chimpout and that's when the shutdown will end. Or maybe they moved on to tunnels at this point...