US US port strike by 45,000 dockworkers is all but certain to begin at midnight - A Rather Unique October Surprise

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FILE - Shipping containers are stacked in the Port of New York and New Jersey in Elizabeth, N.J., May 20, 2021. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)
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FILE - In this photo provided by the Georgia Ports Authority, Griff Lynch, President and CEO of the Georgia Ports Authority, provides an update on the Port of Savannah’s progress and future trajectory to 1,200 leaders from the maritime, supply chain, business and political sectors Thursday, Oct. 12, 2023, during the annual State of the Port event in Savannah, Ga. (Stephen B. Morton/Georgia Ports Authority via AP, File)
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FILE - Containers are moved at the Port of New York and New Jersey in Elizabeth, N.J., on June 30, 2021. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)

Updated 12:13 PM GMT-5, September 30, 2024
NEW YORK (AP) — The union representing U.S. dockworkers signaled that 45,000 members will walk off the job at midnight, kicking off a massive strike likely to shut down ports across the East and Gulf coasts.
The coming work stoppage threatens to significantly snarl the nation’s supply chain, potentially leading to higher prices and delays for households and businesses if it drags on for weeks. That’s because the strike by members of the International Longshoremen’s Association could cause 36 ports — which handle roughly half of the goods shipped into and out of the U.S. — to shutter operations.
ILA confirmed over the weekend that its members would hit the picket lines at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday. In a Monday update, the union continued to blame the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents the ports, for continuing to “to block the path” towards an agreement before the contract deadline.

“The Ocean Carriers represented by USMX want to enjoy rich billion-dollar profits that they are making in 2024, while they offer ILA Longshore Workers an unacceptable wage package that we reject,” ILA said in a prepared statement. “ILA longshore workers deserve to be compensated for the important work they do keeping American commerce moving and growing.”

ILA also accused the shippers of “killing their customers” with sizeable price increases for full containers over recent weeks. The union said that this will result increased costs for American consumers.

The Associated Press reached out to a USMX spokesperson for comment.
If drawn out, the strike would led would force businesses to pay shippers for delays and cause some goods to arrive late for peak holiday shopping season — potentially impacting delivery of anything from toys or artificial Christmas trees, to cars, coffee and vegetables. Americans could also face higher prices as retailers feel the supply squeeze.

ILA members are demanding higher wages and a total ban on the automation of cranes, gates and container-moving trucks used in the loading or unloading of freight.
The coming strike by the ILA workers will be the first by the union since 1977.
If a strike were deemed a danger to U.S. economic health, President Joe Biden could, under the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act, seek a court order for an 80-day cooling-off period. This would suspend the strike.
All eyes are on what, if any, action the adminstration might take — particularly just weeks ahead of a tight presidential election. But Biden has signaled that he will not exercise this power.
During an exchange with reporters on Sunday, Biden said “no” when asked if he planned to intervene in the potential work stoppage.

“Because it’s collective bargaining, I don’t believe in Taft-Hartley,” Biden said referring to a 1947 law that allows the president to intervene in labor disputes that threaten the nation’s health or safety.
 
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How long do these contracts last anyway? Kinda funny if it was a 20 year contract or smth and it just happened to fuck over the Dem by chance.
Six years. The one that just expired was signed in 2018, you can read the Master Contract here
. It's actually shorter than I expected, 80 pages from start to finish and the 10 first pages are the index and cover and the like, and they use a rather large font
 

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Six years. The one that just expired was signed in 2018, you can read the Master Contract here
. It's actually shorter than I expected, 80 pages from start to finish and the 10 first pages are the index and cover and the like, and they use a rather large font
Holy fuck they could've added a dark mode. Maybe they can't agree to the contract because they keep going blind trying to read it...
 
I think wage workers screwing with the economy is a good thing and we should be willing to shut this country down like France for what we want. Let's be honest, life isn't fair, c suite types will gladly fuck you over for what they want and this country nor its economy inherently gives a shit about them anyway. They should strike harder.
 
I think wage workers screwing with the economy is a good thing and we should be willing to shut this country down like France for what we want. Let's be honest, life isn't fair, c suite types will gladly fuck you over for what they want and this country nor its economy inherently gives a shit about them anyway. They should strike harder.
COVID was the biggest, most coercive upward transfer of wealth in history. Talk about redistribution of wealth.

Fuck the elites, the workers in every industry deserve to claw back every penny that has been stolen from them since the 1970s. Would prefer the guillotine but a general strike works as well.
 
Call me a schizo but this doesn't seem to be about pay. It rather feels like an attempt to completely stifle America's attempts to modernize its infrastructure starting with ports. Rotterdam, Singapore, Jebel Ali and Qingdao are mostly or completely automatic. USA is already vastly behind. I would be shocked if some foreign power wasn't quietly supporting the strikes to deepen the gap between EU/Asia and USA.
 
Call me a schizo but this doesn't seem to be about pay. It rather feels like an attempt to completely stifle America's attempts to modernize its infrastructure starting with ports. Rotterdam, Singapore, Jebel Ali and Qingdao are mostly or completely automatic. USA is already vastly behind. I would be shocked if some foreign power wasn't quietly supporting the strikes to deepen the gap between EU/Asia and USA.
This is just one angle to it as well. The US domestic shipping industry has had a monopoly for going a century now.

https://archive.ph/cLpDP -> Jones Act Summary
 
I think wage workers screwing with the economy is a good thing and we should be willing to shut this country down like France for what we want. Let's be honest, life isn't fair, c suite types will gladly fuck you over for what they want and this country nor its economy inherently gives a shit about them anyway. They should strike harder.
While I do agree in principle, let's apply a bit of nuance here. Holding critical infrastructure hostage is no way to win friends, and while the longshoremen deserve a fair wage for their services, greed kills. A third of these guys already make north of $200k a year, roughly 3X the national average salary.
 
While I do agree in principle, let's apply a bit of nuance here. Holding critical infrastructure hostage is no way to win friends, and while the longshoremen deserve a fair wage for their services, greed kills. A third of these guys already make north of $200k a year, roughly 3X the national average salary.
Not just that, but their jobs are pretty much handed down to their kin. They operate as if they're the mob. Many of them are actually part of the mob.
 
Holding critical infrastructure hostage is no way to win friends
Nobody wants your friendship. They want money and job security.

This country is already run and owned by greedy self interested people. Why should the longshoremen be any different? Why is it always the workers who need to 'be the bigger person'?
 
While I do agree in principle, let's apply a bit of nuance here. Holding critical infrastructure hostage is no way to win friends, and while the longshoremen deserve a fair wage for their services, greed kills. A third of these guys already make north of $200k a year, roughly 3X the national average salary.
Their base wage is still 39$ an hour. If they weren't constantly doing overtime, then they'd be making like 79k$ a year. They're also living in places like NYC and Boston. That 200k doesn't mean shit there. They're damn near broke next to their neighbors and they know damn well that if they don't strike and hold shit hostage, then their neighbors will force them on the streets without a care.
Not just that, but their jobs are pretty much handed down to their kin. They operate as if they're the mob. Many of them are actually part of the mob.
So patronage is OK with the white collar jobset, but it should be condemned for the blue collar jobset?
 
There is no toilet paper at Sam's Club. I repeat, there is no toilet paper at Sam's Club. This is not a drill.

Fun Fact about the Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020™: there was tons of unused commercial toilet paper sitting on shelves of Office/Restaurant supply places. Turns out people wiped their asses just as much as before, they just were using more of the softer shit made for your house than the rough sandpaper butt wipes that you're forced to use out in public. Since everyone was working form home and not going out, that stuff was available everywhere. But it's made in the same TP factories so the ratio of residential/commercial TP was out of wack.
 
Nobody wants your friendship. They want money and job security.

This country is already run and owned by greedy self interested people. Why should the longshoremen be any different? Why is it always the workers who need to 'be the bigger person'?
Their base wage is still 39$ an hour. If they weren't constantly doing overtime, then they'd be making like 79k$ a year. They're also living in places like NYC and Boston. That 200k doesn't mean shit there. They're damn near broke next to their neighbors and they know damn well that if they don't strike and hold shit hostage, then their neighbors will force them on the streets without a care.
So patronage is OK with the white collar jobset, but it should be condemned for the blue collar jobset?
Aye, all fair points. :feels:
 
So patronage is OK with the white collar jobset, but it should be condemned for the blue collar jobset?
It should be condemned overall. That being said, I don't think you people understand the level of corruption at the ports. There are people making 80k who's job is to secure the locks on the trailers (a 10 minute job) every 45 minutes or so while they watch whatever game is on a nearby TV. They are also assisted by 3-6 other people who are also making 80k. You are talking about a lot of people who have completely useless jobs they get paid absurd amount of money for. Completely protected by the Unions. So no, fuck these guys.
 
It should be condemned overall. That being said, I don't think you people understand the level of corruption at the ports. There are people making 80k who's job is to secure the locks on the trailers (a 10 minute job) every 45 minutes or so while they watch whatever game is on a nearby TV. They are also assisted by 3-6 other people who are also making 80k. You are talking about a lot of people who have completely useless jobs they get paid absurd amount of money for. Completely protected by the Unions. So no, fuck these guys.
Ok, so you want to crack down on the union guys but are you going to craxk down on the WFH types with email jobs who sometimes get two employers because they have so little to do? Are you going to protest the federal bureaucracy and maintain that same rage and momentum there? What about the numerous other fields where skilled technicians sometimes have legitimately nothing to do but collect a paycheck and maybe pay union dues? The longshoremen aren't exceptions to this stuff.
 
Ok, so you want to crack down on the union guys but are you going to craxk down on the WFH types with email jobs who sometimes get two employers because they have so little to do? Are you going to protest the federal bureaucracy and maintain that same rage and momentum there? What about the numerous other fields where skilled technicians sometimes have legitimately nothing to do but collect a paycheck and maybe pay union dues? The longshoremen aren't exceptions to this stuff.
When people with nothing jobs start demanding 77% raises over 6 years, yes I will crack down on them. Blue or white collar alike. However, especially union guys. Why? Because there's a Mafia style institution behind them.
 
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