Visions of Alice - One of the worst websites ever. Virped is even grossed out by it and it's home to The Juicebox

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
chimpburgers said:
I'm going back in. Fuck me.

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how the hell did this fucker reproduce
 
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Like I said in the last pedo thread (Why do I have to type that sentence? (:_( ). If you aren't getting medical help and are "indulging" in your fantasies, please allow your brain to get very well acquainted with Mr. Bullet.


If you really do "love" children, you would know that true love means setting things free after all.
 
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Kassovari said:
how the hell has this site managed to stay up for 12 fucking years
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Because as long as they don't post CP, talking about having bad thoughts is not a crime. That said, if the Feds wanted to, I'm sure they could drop the hammer for something, I suspect it's left alone because they monitor it and follow individual posters back to CP rings and child sex trafficking operations, if it's not just a gigantic honeypot to start with.
 
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KatsuKitty said:
I'm partly consoled by the fact that a solid 75% of that site has to be the FBI.
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That's how law enforcement has been destroying these sites for some time now. They get back end access, study the leadership for a period and then swoop in and arrest the ring leaders.

With the intel that they've gained they can then operate the site as though nothing has happened, whilst gathering more and more intel on the users and pass it on to interpol. I believe it's how Silk Road was finally taken down.

At least, we can hope that's what's happening.
 
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Jesus said:
That's how law enforcement has been destroying these sites for some time now. They get back end access, study the leadership for a period and then swoop in and arrest the ring leaders.
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That's how they've taken down actual CP distribution sites. This isn't one. I think it's possible that people on the site say enough dumb shit that it justifies LEAs figuring out who they are and keeping track of them, though. Or just waiting until they have probable cause on enough of them to do that kind of raid.

With the intel that they've gained they can then operate the site as though nothing has happened, whilst gathering more and more intel on the users and pass it on to interpol. I believe it's how Silk Road was finally taken down.
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Ross Ulbricht actually made grave errors very early on, posting on the Bitcointalk and other sites using accounts connected to his Gmail address (stealthily named rossulbricht@gmail.com). While he dropped these accounts quickly, the profile is still there. The SR server was also intermittently leaking its real IP address at a datacenter in Iceland in the traffic generated by poking at the login with various usernames, passwords, and CAPTCHA.

If you mean that this was pretextual and that they actually got their information from the NSA or something else they don't want to disclose, that's certainly possible, but unlike a lot of cases, the DOJ's claims in the case against Ulbricht are highly plausible. Frankly, I think @Dynastia could have doxed this guy if he'd had a hankering to for whatever reason.

This site has a somewhat different issue, though. Ulbricht was clearly guilty of all sorts of huge juicy drug crimes guaranteed to get him put away a long, long time and make the career of anyone involved.

Most of the people on this site, though, would be relatively easy to track down, but haven't actually admitted to doing anything illegal. If you swooped down on them and didn't get anything solid, the rest would scatter and delete everything.

I still think they'd be foolish not to try to link sites like this with ongoing investigations. A lot of times, they have very sparse information on suspects, who are understandably paranoid. Stuff like the background in some video, or some very specific sick kink. Some perp who doesn't know they know this (and only this) might stupidly or arrogantly go into it on a site like this.
 
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Jesus said:
That's how law enforcement has been destroying these sites for some time now. They get back end access, study the leadership for a period and then swoop in and arrest the ring leaders.

With the intel that they've gained they can then operate the site as though nothing has happened, whilst gathering more and more intel on the users and pass it on to interpol. I believe it's how Silk Road was finally taken down.

At least, we can hope that's what's happening.
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What I don't understand is how this website has been around for over a decade and it still hasn't been taken down. I would hope that the authorities are still closely monitoring this shit.
 
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chimpburgers said:
What I don't understand is how this website has been around for over a decade and it still hasn't been taken down. I would hope that the authorities are still closely monitoring this shit.
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They're not actually doing anything illegal. At least by having the site.

And if they are, it might be too useful to keep it up, specifically for the purpose of monitoring it and maybe even catfishing some of these sick fucks into a sting.
 
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