Visual Novels

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Do you play visual Novels?

  • No, because that’s fucking gay

    Votes: 83 15.7%
  • Yes, because I read them for the plot

    Votes: 196 37.0%
  • No, because they’re not really video games

    Votes: 34 6.4%
  • Yes, because anime girls are better than real women

    Votes: 116 21.9%
  • No, but I think about playing them

    Votes: 68 12.8%
  • Yes, but I do it ironically

    Votes: 33 6.2%

  • Total voters
    530
I'm absolutely convinced there are some danger-haired furry faggots who hate anime that are in charge of approving games. That's why you see furry games with all sorts of subhuman degeneracy getting a pass but anime gets the side-eye.

The excuse of "they look young" or "there's sex but it's not porn" is not true either because the games those troons do let through also have the same sexual content but it's just not in an art style they like. It's not even the porn-y stuff that triggers them since they denied Chaos;Noah and I saw nothing in that game that I didn't see in Baldur's Gay 3 or The Witcher in an even more explicit form.
I believe Valve's criteria is a) does the girl appear in a school uniform and b) does the girl have sex during the story.
And you can't convince me that these shitty western h-games aren't just a front for money laundering. They inexplicably always show up in the new & trending tab on Steam, yet I haven't met a soul who has played any of them.
I'd bet $1000 that if someone replaced uncensored Muv-Luv Alternative with fat trans POCs and submitted it with nothing else changed it would get approved. And that includes the twizzler scene.
I would instantly neck myself if this happened.
 
And now I've finally made it to Matsuribayashi and finished the prologue.

The confrontation between Takano and Oyashiro-sama followed by this part of the opening had no business going as hard as it did.
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tbh I didn't know much about Higurashi before starting the games. I tried watching the anime years ago and found it dreadfully dull to the point of dropping it after 3 episodes. For some reason, the VNs have been way more digestible for me.
It's pretty sacrilege to say in the Visual Novels Thread of all places but I quite enjoy the anime for Higurashi after all of these years. It's easily one of my favorite anime despite not really being a good adaptation of the VN, which is odd to say. Without it I wouldn't have ever bothered with reading Umineko and eventually Higurashi. The soundtrack being done by Kenji Kawai of all people also helps. Michishirube is also a great song for Higurashi. Also are you going to read Umineko after this?


I like that Yumiko's Route in Grisaia has just turned into a weird Jackie Chan movie, its a good change of pace even if it's still in the running for least favorite route I've read so far. I just like Sachi and Michiru way more as characters.
 
It's pretty sacrilege to say in the Visual Novels Thread of all places but I quite enjoy the anime for Higurashi after all of these years. It's easily one of my favorite anime despite not really being a good adaptation of the VN, which is odd to say. Without it I wouldn't have ever bothered with reading Umineko and eventually Higurashi. The soundtrack being done by Kenji Kawai of all people also helps. Michishirube is also a great song for Higurashi. Also are you going to read Umineko after this?
I think a big part of why the VN works for me but the anime doesn't is the difference in how tension is managed. In the anime, the violence is almost the centerpiece. It feels like the show is going through the motions so it can finally get to the "good part" where it shows you the SUPER COOL AWESOME VIOLENT SCENE WHERE GIRL STABS HERSELF AGAINST A WALL THIS IS DEFINITELY WHAT EVERYONE WAS WAITING FOR. And that shit is boring to me.

The VN builds tension almost completely without violence. In fact, the violent scenes are placed in such a way that they become the catharsis that relieves the tension in the story. You're not excited for the violence because it's cool to watch high-school kids murder each other. You're excited for the violence because the VN has been pounding your ears with insect noises and ominous music for the past 3 hours as Keiichi doomposts about murdering Satoko's uncle before finally doing it and you feel relieved when it's over. It's just a really compelling experience in a way the anime isn't.

Anyway, pretentious bullshit aside - yes I'm planning on continuing to Umineko. I hear trannies really like this one though so my expectations are a little lower.
 
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I think a big part of why the VN works for me but the anime doesn't is the difference in how tension is managed. In the anime, the violence is almost the centerpiece. It feels like the show is going through the motions so it can finally get to the "good part" where it shows you the SUPER COOL AWESOME VIOLENT SCENE WHERE GIRL STABS HERSELF AGAINST A WALL THIS IS DEFINITELY WHAT EVERYONE WAS WAITING FOR. And that shit is boring to me.

The VN builds tension almost completely without violence. In fact, the violent scenes are placed in such a way that they become the catharsis that relieves the tension in the story. You're not excited for the violence because it's cool to watch high-school kids murder each other. You're excited for the violence because the VN has been pounding your ears with insect noises and ominous music for the past 3 hours
I think it is more simple than that. Similar to how film adaptions of books end up, VNs and anime are fundamentally different mediums. Anime is visual, which lends itself to action, as well as environmental storytelling and nonverbal dialogue in a way VNs are unable to. VNs, similarly to novels, are a textual medium, which means that they are able to include vast paragraphs of inner monologue and introspection without breaking the pacing. Just look at some of the most famous VNs, such as Fate. and the reams of internal dialogue. An anime could never adapt this particular aspect, just as a VN could never replicate something like action scenes or sweeping environmental shots, so they work towards their own particular strengths in the medium. It's why I think no anime adaption of a VN holds up to the original, because it will be constrained by the new medium it is adapted to for a work not suited to it.
 
Can anyone who played the Yu-No remake tell me if the story picks up at all? I've looked at some slightly spoilery stuff and can tell things get slightly more intense (some kind of fantasy medieval magic stuff?) but I've been playing for ~5 hours and about the only thing that's happened has been that the MC has had a gun pointed at him and he's been horny at various girls while he wanders around town asking other girls questions while he also acts horny at them.

With Steins;Gate and Muv-Luv Extra I could tell the slice of life stuff was going somewhere or had a point that would pay off sooner or later but a lot of the dialogue in Yu-No so far hasn't served much of a purpose or helped me get an idea of what exactly the point of the story is. I guess you could say it just feels meandering.

I'm willing to put in the time if it does pay off, though so if it's just slow going then I'll keep going. I just can't find anything online that isn't spoilers or pointless bitching about the remake looking different. I don't care, I'm playing the remake and I just want to know if it picks up.
 
Considering the pain it puts people through, it is probably a good thing you stopped reading it.

WHY DOES THE ENDING GET WORSE THE CLOSER IT IS TO THE TRUE ENDING
Finished reading Kara no Shoujou remake. It's good but it wasn't as amazing as I assumed it will be. The characters are fun but it's hard to get to attached to most of them (especially as it's not really route based), the plot gets too convoluted, and by the end I just followed a guide after getting locked out of the normal ending due to missing a conversation. If I had played it a decade ago the mutilation horror would have probably been harder to swallow, but by now I'm too jaded.

Don't know if I want to hunt the other endings. I do like it when the true ending isn't a boring happy ending. How is the sequel?

Also my reaction of the best character getting a death flag RIP Tojiko
Can anyone who played the Yu-No remake tell me if the story picks up at all? I've looked at some slightly spoilery stuff and can tell things get slightly more intense (some kind of fantasy medieval magic stuff?) but I've been playing for ~5 hours and about the only thing that's happened has been that the MC has had a gun pointed at him and he's been horny at various girls while he wanders around town asking other girls questions while he also acts horny at them.
Sad to say but it takes a loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg time for the story to actually get to the more notable parts. I'd hazard it's around 30 hours to get there for 10 hours of content that doesn't really fit in with how it was beforehand. It's probably better to just use a guide to get to that part, you will lose some plot points but some are better for your sanity. Spoilerish hint: The game is on my list of the protag fucking his daughters.
 
Sad to say but it takes a loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg time for the story to actually get to the more notable parts.
Bummer. This and some other comments that also confirmed that I should just give it up and only pick it back up if I absolutely want another VN and it's the only one left that isn't a pile of garbage. It just seems like a solid 6/10 that would have been a 9/10 20 years ago when there wasn't so much else on the market that did it better.

That, and I have so many other games on the backlog I could play instead.
 
It just seems like a solid 6/10 that would have been a 9/10 20 years ago when there wasn't so much else on the market that did it better.
That's how I feel about a lot of the ADV games from the PC-98 era. A lot of them were massively influential but all the good ideas got co-opted and done way more competently in the Windows era.
 
I'm on Amane's route for Grisaia now and my fucking god we're going into overdrive with the dick jokes (I mean to be fair I expected this ever since I was introduced to Amane). It makes me wonder how the hell people went through the story with half of the content cut in the all ages version. It's going to be a real fucking gut punch when it gets depressing halfway through the route and I wish that we were in sex joke city.

I laughed at the Zaku joke.
 
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My top VNs:

-G-Senjou no Maou
-Symphonic Rain
-If My Heart Had Wings
-Nameless: the one thing you must recall
-Yumemiru
-Katawa Shoujo (my first)

Absolutely fucking ridiculous they had to ruin If My Heart Had Wings for steam (censoring destroys at least 1 route), but Sakura Paedophile or whatever stays up

Ah it was such a heartwarming VN. I love gliders. I saw a couple in a museum the other day and it reminded me of the game

The Symphonic Rain rhythm minigame was so good. Simple, perfect, and with great music. Kind of the ideal rhythm game?
 
Finally done with Higurashi, at least the main chapters. There's a couple console arcs I might check out but I'm gonna watch the sequel animu next before I move on to Umineko.

Last chapter had a couple of asspulls (at least I felt like they were) but it was extremely satisfying nonetheless.
 
Finally done with Higurashi, at least the main chapters. There's a couple console arcs I might check out but I'm gonna watch the sequel animu next before I move on to Umineko.

Last chapter had a couple of asspulls (at least I felt like they were) but it was extremely satisfying nonetheless.
As somebody who watched it while it was airing Sotsugou is horrid dogshit and not worth your time whatsoever.

You can read the horror stories and live reactions from me as I was posting in the Anime thread or the Ryukishi07 thread at the time of it airing or hear it from @Kari Kamiya. Both of us hate this show with a burning passion and I don't have enough words to describe my hatred for this show.


In other words I'm on the final route for Grisaia. It's fantastic and I loved all of the routes so far. I really love the way the Makina route is going and Amane's route was probably the most fucked of the routes I've read.
 
Oh god, don’t even know where to start when it comes to visual novels. Been playing them on and off for years, all time favourite is Little Busters though.

Currently working through Nursery Rhyme with the help of my husband (the game doesn’t have an English patch and luckily he can read Japanese), then I’ll be moving on to Kiss On My Deity. Also got Swan Song and Gore Screaming Show lined up to play at some point soon.
 
but I'm gonna watch the sequel animu next before I move on to Umineko.
Oh loooool no you don't. You'll have to tackle Umineko before Shitsugou, and even then, don't even bother with it. Not even the manga could save that script.
 
And how about the console/extra arcs? I finished Saikoroshi because it's an epilogue chapter in the same continuity (and also was only like an hour and a half to read) but from what I understand a lot of the console arcs take place in completely different continuities and one of them sounds like an FMA situation where the actual canon ending wasn't decided yet so they just came up with a noncanon ending to stick into the PS2 version.

I'm not really opposed to more reading but I've been in autistic communities before where people insist that 100% of the content is necessary but then when I actually do that, most of it turns out to be unimportant. If it helps, my current mood is definitely that I'm satisfied with Higurashi and interested in possibly moving on if there's nothing else important to read.
 
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And how about the console/extra arcs? I finished Saikoroshi because it's an epilogue chapter in the same continuity (and also was only like an hour and a half to read) but from what I understand a lot of the console arcs take place in completely different continuities and one of them sounds like an FMA situation where the actual canon ending wasn't decided yet so they just came up with a noncanon ending to stick into the PS2 version.

I'm not really opposed to more reading but I've been in autistic communities before where people insist that 100% of the content is necessary but then when I actually do that, most of it turns out to be unimportant. If it helps, my current mood is definitely that I'm satisfied with Higurashi and interested in possibly moving on if there's nothing else important to read.
That's for the best. I've heard some alright things about Mitotsukushi (an alternate ending to Higurashi) but as you mentioned you have to read a ton of other okay to middling side chapters to get to it. The other extra arcs are mainly fanservice (zombie, swimsuit arcs). It's up to you if you think they're worth reading or watching the Kira anime for. There's an online guide for all of the console/extra exclusive arcs and its easy enough to setup on PC if you have the 07th Mod and a copy of Himatsubushi.

Saikoroshi is also a perfect end to Higurashi so I totally get just ending things there while the going is good and sticking to the Ryukishi-written only VNs.

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but as you mentioned you have to read a ton of other okay to middling side chapters to get to it.
Yeah that's kinda what I was thinking. If they were short then I'd knuckle down and do them but finding out the Miotsukushi line is about the whole length of the question arcs (which already took me a month to get through) definitely puts me off them. I guess I can come back later and read them.
 
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