Visual Novels

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Do you play visual Novels?

  • No, because that’s fucking gay

    Votes: 83 15.7%

  • Yes, because I read them for the plot

    Votes: 195 36.9%

  • No, because they’re not really video games

    Votes: 34 6.4%

  • Yes, because anime girls are better than real women

    Votes: 116 21.9%

  • No, but I think about playing them

    Votes: 68 12.9%

  • Yes, but I do it ironically

    Votes: 33 6.2%
  • Total voters
    529
I have only one concern. The game thankfully half asses its "representation" but when your playing as a guy you start out in a relationship with a chick and I don't know if picking a female MC locks you into lesbianism.
 
Fcret said:
Finished Umineko. I don't have much to say because wow that's a lot to digest.
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If you really want to know everything that happened between the culprit's backstory, I'd read Confession of the Golden Witch. Some people say the EP8 Manga improves on a lot of the issues people have with the VN but I wholly disagree.
 
HexFag said:
If you really want to know everything that happened between the culprit's backstory, I'd read Confession of the Golden Witch.
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Already have. Like 90% of what's in there was already the conclusion I'd came to after episode 7. It's good that they finally put a face to the person involved, but I feel like it mostly exists because of the brevity of the manga (the VN goes around in circles on this topic enough that I was able to piece it together indirectly even without confession).

HexFag said:
Some people say the EP8 Manga improves on a lot of the issues people have with the VN but I wholly disagree.
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My only major complaints with Episode 8 are just Ryukishi being Ryukishi, namely:
1) The introduction of slow interactive segments right at the very end of a long-ass story (Higurashi did this too and I found it somewhat annoying there just from a QoL perspective).
2) Length. I get that it has to be long because it's an entire character arc for Ange who has only gotten incomplete development up until this point but man is it a slog to get through, especially compared to Higurashi's last answer arc which felt more like a victory lap

Otherwise, pretty incredible. Beautiful. I got legit choked up at parts. Also the trick ending is good even if it's not the intended path. If it was the only ending, I still probably would have been satisfied though obviously the magic ending hits much deeper.
 
Fcret said:
Already have. Like 90% of what's in there was already the conclusion I'd came to after episode 7. It's good that they finally put a face to the person involved, but I feel like it mostly exists because of the brevity of the manga (the VN goes around in circles on this topic enough that I was able to piece it together indirectly even without confession).


My only major complaints with Episode 8 are just Ryukishi being Ryukishi, namely:
1) The introduction of slow interactive segments right at the very end of a long-ass story (Higurashi did this too and I found it somewhat annoying there just from a QoL perspective).
2) Length. I get that it has to be long because it's an entire character arc for Ange who has only gotten incomplete development up until this point but man is it a slog to get through, especially compared to Higurashi's last answer arc which felt more like a victory lap

Otherwise, pretty incredible. Beautiful. I got legit choked up at parts. Also the trick ending is good even if it's not the intended path. If it was the only ending, I still probably would have been satisfied though obviously the magic ending hits much deeper.
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Yeah as I mentioned a couple of pages ago, people really hated the goats during the episode, assuming that it was Ryukishi trolling/making fun of the audience for not getting the mystery of the story. Personally
 
HexFag said:
Yeah as I mentioned a couple of pages ago, people really hated the goats during the episode, assuming that it was Ryukishi trolling/making fun of the audience for not getting the mystery of the story. Personally
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Half the people I've talked to in other social groups either said they liked Higurashi better or preferred the manga because, "the mystery was easier to figure out."

And I'm just like - did we read the same story? Figuring out the mystery wasn't really the point in the first place, right?
 
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Is it all woke slop?
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Fcret said:
Half the people I've talked to in other social groups either said they liked Higurashi better or preferred the manga because, "the mystery was easier to figure out.
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I liked Umineko better (obviously) largely because Higurashi at times felt like a harem comedy. Both are amazing VNs, but you can clearly see a huge improvement in 07's work here. The diversity of characters, the themes it touches, and even the setting itself is cooler. Now if he could only finish Ciconia before I die so I can be happy.
 
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I fuckin hate how Kirikiroid2 will sometimes crash for reasons known to neither man nor beast
 
AWarmToiletSeat said:
Imagine you've been sending text messages to yourself from 8 years ago, and one day he sends you a message "Congrats, you aren't a virgin anymore. Also, I killed a guy."
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Tsukikana EN patch coming. Based off what keeps happening with every toneworks game, expect it to take two and a half years to come out and for everyone involved to break contact with the outside world and play Melty Blood forever after it does (Love you Trip).

 
Okay, after finishing Demons Roots I'm starting Higurashi. The intro kinda clues you in to it not being a slice of life, but that moment with Rena in the garbage dump gave me chills.

Looking forward to finally taking on one of the classics.
 
Poop A Loop said:
Okay, after finishing Demons Roots I'm starting Higurashi. The intro kinda clues you in to it not being a slice of life, but that moment with Rena in the garbage dump gave me chills.

Looking forward to finally taking on one of the classics.
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How is Demons Roots anyway? Picked it up on a Steam Sale and I'll probably get around to it when I do an RPGMaker game marathon.
 
HexFag said:
How is Demons Roots anyway? Picked it up on a Steam Sale and I'll probably get around to it when I do an RPGMaker game marathon.
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It's very good. The writing and dialogue is fantastic, the gameplay is solid but nothing groundbreaking. There's enough optional content to create mechanical depth that's not there in the main quest, too. Deathpolca and her party are a great ensemble.

The NSFW content is treated like a joke most of the time so it's not the end of the world if you use the patch to restore it. The only intense parts are explanations of one character's backstory and a "bad end" scenario that's straight up misery and torture porn.
 
Poop A Loop said:
Okay, after finishing Demons Roots I'm starting Higurashi. The intro kinda clues you in to it not being a slice of life, but that moment with Rena in the garbage dump gave me chills.

Looking forward to finally taking on one of the classics.
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I think the OG Higurashi conceit of it being slice of life is kinda impossible nowadays considering its reputation and the anime adaptation being so well-known and memetic.

Onikakushi is definitely a slow burn and there were parts when I almost fell off but it hooked me by the 5 hour mark and I basically nolifed the rest of the episodes over the next month and a half. For the first few arcs, I'd definitely recommend wearing headphones if you're not already because it really adds to the ambience (and I think Higurashi really benefits from its ambience).

Also definitely post your thoughts as you progress. I want to vicariously experience Higurashi for the first time again.
 
Poop A Loop said:
Looking forward to finally taking on one of the classics.
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You might be interested in reading it with HD visuals and a chart that helps you see some of the ARCS you may not know about. Higurashi is probably longer than Umineko if you count the optional stuff. There are also some ARCS that are manga exclusive, but were never finished. I can't recall the name of it off the top of my head, but it involves Mion/Shion
going to a prep school.
 
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Rockzo said:
It's western but Slay the Princess is a really good example I think. It's really well written with a simple premise that gets deeper and art that's animated from simple line drawings. It really stands out.
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Slay the Princess is absolute kino, the Adversary and Razor are among my favorite routes.
 
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