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Yup. And the worst thing is, Erda wasn't even an original asspull, considering they did the exact same plot twist with Amar Astarte and the Black Carapce.

It's the first hints of the woke cancer. They can't stand that a -- UGH -- male did something by himself, even if he was a literal demigod if not actual god. He HAS to have stolen his achievements from powerful independent brown wammyxn wot don't need no Imperium. Two, infact -- so far.
It breaks my heart that Abnett is responsible for some of the most atrocious lore in the series, at least I hope he wrote it to expand the cast around the Emperor to make him appear more like a man who can't do a billion things at once and has a history. Rather than inserting strong women who end up fucking things up.
 
And they just retconned the Exorcists as Imperial Fists successors instead of Grey Knight successors.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZdUbgU9uc
That's kinda horseshit, innit?
I hate seeing Valrak’s chad-sona avatar. Almost as much as I hate retarded retcons that serve literally no purpose, why is GW fucking with the minor chapters? It used to be that the non-first founding chapters were there for alternate colour schemes and loose fiction to help you write YOUR DUDES.
 
I hate seeing Valrak’s chad-sona avatar. Almost as much as I hate retarded retcons that serve literally no purpose, why is GW fucking with the minor chapters? It used to be that the non-first founding chapters were there for alternate colour schemes and loose fiction to help you write YOUR DUDES.
Who'd want to be associated with grey nights after being emasculated and undermined in the setting by chadsotes.
 
Who'd want to be associated with grey nights after being emasculated and undermined in the setting by chadsotes.
Because, these guys took what the Grey Knights did and not only did it better, without the the unique equipment, without the extra special recruitment method and with a chapter where not everyone is a Psyker. They were the completion of Grey Knights being fully obsolete wardian relics. On one hand you had the Chadstodes who took the “super space marine” to the next level and on the other you had a normal Chapter who took demonology to the next level.
 
And they just retconned the Exorcists as Imperial Fists successors instead of Grey Knight successors.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZdUbgU9uc
That's kinda horseshit, innit?
Is valrak like glued to a computer the dude pumps this shit out in minutes right after Warhammer community.

Kinda skeptical on it the 9th codex still has the Exorcists listed as unknown successors.
 
Because, these guys took what the Grey Knights did and not only did it better, without the the unique equipment, without the extra special recruitment method and with a chapter where not everyone is a Psyker. They were the completion of Grey Knights being fully obsolete wardian relics. On one hand you had the Chadstodes who took the “super space marine” to the next level and on the other you had a normal Chapter who took demonology to the next level.
So youre telling me they are le super special successor chapter of the grey knights that are even better then their parents and better at using le emperors gene seed? Typical grey knight gamma coping.

(Has this ever been actually stated that they are GK successors, or is this another carcharadons and minotaurs situation.)
 
So youre telling me they are le super special successor chapter of the grey knights that are even better then their parents and better at using le emperors gene seed? Typical grey knight gamma coping.

(Has this ever been actually stated that they are GK successors, or is this another carcharadons and minotaurs situation.)

Space sharks/Minotaurs situation all we ever had was “records were expunged by the Ordo Malleus”
 
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Here comes the Grey Knight copium. First they dont even have the strongest psyker, now this. HAHAHAHA. I think its time for Grey Knights to bend the knee to the bananas.
 
So youre telling me they are le super special successor chapter of the grey knights that are even better then their parents and better at using le emperors gene seed? Typical grey knight gamma coping.

(Has this ever been actually stated that they are GK successors, or is this another carcharadons and minotaurs situation.)
By that logic you now have an Imperial Fists successor that just so happens to have nothing in common with their cousins at all but has an insane amount of demonic knowledge and have a super secret, super unique caveat to their recruiting method that literally no one else in the Imperium does. What does that sound like to you?

At least when they were “Grey Knight Sucessors” it made sense where their tricks came from.
 
Unfortunately Abnett's writing has really shit the bed recently. Lord Militant in the Gaunt's Ghosts series was a major letdown after Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach.
 
By that logic you now have an Imperial Fists successor that just so happens to have nothing in common with their cousins at all but has an insane amount of demonic knowledge and have a super secret, super unique caveat to their recruiting method that literally no one else in the Imperium does. What does that sound like to you?

At least when they were “Grey Knight Sucessors” it made sense where their tricks came from.
That is indeed the case, Grey knights should not have successors period. It is mary sue as fuck. Now its time for grey knight fags and excorcists to bend the knee and admit that the blood angels and Custodes are the BIG DAWGS and tribal chiefs.
 
That is indeed the case, Grey knights should not have successors period. It is mary sue as fuck. Now its time for grey knight fags and excorcists to bend the knee and admit that the blood angels and Custodes are the BIG DAWGS and tribal chiefs.
I will never kneel to a Red Ultramarine.....but I wont deny a Shadowkeeper Custode army has been on my mind for a while.
 
I will never kneel to a Red Ultramarine.....but I wont deny a Shadowkeeper Custode army has been on my mind for a while.
You say red ultramarine, but blood chads have the most unique units of any other space marine chapter except the grey cucks.
 
Unfortunately Abnett's writing has really shit the bed recently. Lord Militant in the Gaunt's Ghosts series was a major letdown after Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach.
The two last novels in Gaunt's Ghosts were kinda underwhelming. The first one was literally a third of a book and absolutely nothing happens besides build up. The second had revelations that make absolutely no sense due to relying on a massive amount of coincidences and seem to be there just for shock value, most of the plot people just walk in circles, one character performed insane feats that would make Sly Marbo call bullshit, and the resolution felt tacked on.
Abnett should just have the Ghosts released on a planet of their own (or at least the Tanith part that should be decades old veterans), especially since he wrote himself in a corner considering Gaunt is now a senior commander.
 
There's also the Black Consuls, who are an Imperial Fist Successor Chapter.
The Black Dragons would be a fun kitbash session.
Then there's the Black Inculpators, the Black Templars (of course), The Black Vipers (Salamanders Successors, officially) the Champions of Thanatos, the Charnel Guard (suspected to be Blood Angels Successors), the Consecrators, The Dark Brotherhood, The Death Eagles (officially listed as Raven Guard Successor Chapter, but may in fact have their origins as Loyalist Emperor's Children who became Black Shields during the Horus Heresy), The Death Spectres, The Destroyers, The Emperor's Shadows (basically Space Marine Samurai. No joke), The Emperor's Wolves (amazingly not listed as a Space Wolves Successor Chapter, but the Blood Disciples Chaos Warband came from their 8th Company), The Golden Halos, The Halo Dragons, The Hammers of Dorn (dead giveaway from which legion they came from), The Helion Legion, The Iron Champions (a successor chapter of a successor chapter, The Executioners, of Imperial Fist lineage), The Iron Talons (they're actually White Scars Successors), The Legion of Night, The Marines Exemplar, The Mortifactors, The Night Watch, The Red Scorpions (Forge World's favorite chapter), The Sable Swords, The Scythes of the Emperor, and The Sons of Dorn (big guess who they are descended from).
You know..... I think I’ll just hit up the creation tables on 1D4chan, I’ve held off making my own chapter because (I’m a filthy heretic) lots of them are really cringe/gay and I’m not about that.

Any tips guys?

Tfw when I rolled an Ultima Founding Ultramarine successor.
 
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You know..... I think I’ll just hit up the creation tables on 1D4chan, I’ve held off making my own chapter because (I’m a filthy heretic) lots of them are really cringe/gay and I’m not about that.

Any tips guys?

Tfw when I rolled an Ultima Founding Ultramarine successor.

I'll sperg out a bit. So my dudes are all Blood Ravens, but I have this reoccurring weird mental image of an Irish / Celtic themed recruitment world, with enough connections that I could do MyDudes of anything I want connected to it.

So in my mind there's an Eyes of the Emperor known to the locals as "The Old Man of the Mountain" based on the planet, keeping an eye on the local region of space, which leads to a shield host worth of Custodes tending to come and go from the world at times. There's an AdMech expeditionary force that's stranded in the area because of the great rift and has made a minor forge on one of the subcontinents or moons out of necessity. There's a not-quite-Knight-house, more like Freeblades-of-a-feather -- something like the Three Musketeers, only Imperial Knights -- Hanging out using the AdMech for repairs and supplies. That kind of thing -- they're all stuck there because of the rift, so they're having to put up with each other in closer quarters than normal, but it's somehow working. Imperial Soup: The Solar System. But the Blood Ravens, being stuck on the wrong side of the Great Rift, are stuck recruiting from this world occasionally, too. Which has a distinctly different culture than normal Blood Raven worlds, namely, they're significantly more laid back. Think: Perfect Kill Team Members, Not so Perfect Line Members.

This leads to cliques being created in the Blood Raven lines from recruits from this world, as shown by them painting parts of their armor an Emerald Green instead of Red, to set themselves apart from the other Blood Ravens, as well as including Celtic crosses and patterns, like how the Grey Knights / Thousand Sons sometimes use glowing runes on their armor -- that, only Celtic patterns. Maybe these recruits are almost all, if not 100%, Primaris Marines, as well, this all occurring after the great rift and the Custodes brought the Ultima Founding equipment to the Blood Ravens.

Basically, I couldn't decide how to base my miniatures, so I started some on top of astrogranite, some on top of the mud, and realized if I combined the two in patches on newer bases then it'd look intentional. :P Which made me think of doing the same thing, only with miniatures... So a Blood Ravens force where a handful of them have increasing parts of Green, Celtic themed armor... Exploring how an existing chapter "naturally" comes to see a new chapter grow out from them was interesting to me.

However, If I ever did anything of the above, I'd probably just start a fresh Vanguard Space Marine army instead of trying a "gradient" thing, though.


Failing that, I did have an amusing idea of a western / cowboy themed Space Marine chapter, because holy shit every other niche has already been done, but somehow not that. Lots of good suggestions on a /tg/ thread when I brought it up, but finding it now would be hard as hell.

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For later remembering:
  • Custodes force based around Eyes of the Emperor, "Old Man on the Mountain." Model him with a barbed spear and a hood?
  • AdMech expeditionary force, creating small forge on a moon cause they're stuck ("Styges VIII / Mars / etc, but not")
  • Not-Quite-Knight-House, "Freeblades-of-a-feather," Imperial Knight force based on something like the Three Musketeers?
  • Space Marine chapter "budding" into a second chapter
  • Cowboy themed Space Marine chapter.
 
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You know..... I think I’ll just hit up the creation tables on 1D4chan, I’ve held off making my own chapter because (I’m a filthy heretic) lots of them are really cringe/gay and I’m not about that.

Any tips guys?

Tfw when I rolled an Ultima Founding Ultramarine successor.

I like the historical cultural inspirations, like the guy earlier in the thread doing Korea with Thunderfire Cannon Hwachas. I was recently thinking about how a Melee themed SM army based off the Zulu's shield and spear aesthetic could be fun for gunline charges, bit I'm already cooking up Raptor successors from Space Ireland IRA.
 
You know..... I think I’ll just hit up the creation tables on 1D4chan, I’ve held off making my own chapter because (I’m a filthy heretic) lots of them are really cringe/gay and I’m not about that.

Any tips guys?

Tfw when I rolled an Ultima Founding Ultramarine successor.
Why not a renegade SM chapter. You don't serve the emprah, but you aren't obliged into chaos servitude. You can avoid all the superhero Blueberry/Hufflepuff savior cringe in the process.
 
Why not a renegade SM chapter. You don't serve the emprah, but you aren't obliged into chaos servitude. You can avoid all the superhero Blueberry/Hufflepuff savior horseshit in the process.
Red corsairs are homosexual. Nice try chaos fag.
 
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