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SourDiesel said:
I literally read the article twice. So if it's there, I'm not reading it a third time to be sure so I'll just take your word for it that it was thrown in in passing and say that you must have been looking for it. That fucking article was so boring. But seriously, unless an article is one of those clearly bullshit SJW drum banging ones, some people get exceptionally bent out of shape over the mere suggestion of women being involved in this hobby. But there are tons of female models already anyway and I know a guy who let his girlfriend paint half his ork boys in pastel sparkles so idk... personally, I really like that the hobby is growing and I will never understand the gatekeeping. It gave GW the resources to make all these awesome new models they've been putting out this past year and updating old ones to plastic.

Like, SJWs are speds, but so are those that kneejerk flip out at any suggestion of change or new people in the hobby.
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Huh?

"The next few years will be crucial as it settles into this new identity, and confronts a few long-standing problems that persist (a lack of female characters in the model range is a long-standing and these days indefensible criticism)."

Now I actually am a bit miffed because I had to click on that shit article thrice.

You're strawmanning a lot, but you are very right about one thing: I was looking for code words for, "how come no female Space Marines?" And, as expected, there it was. I found Waldo.
 
Ted_Breakfast said:
Huh?

"The next few years will be crucial as it settles into this new identity, and confronts a few long-standing problems that persist (a lack of female characters in the model range is a long-standing and these days indefensible criticism)."

Now I actually am a bit miffed because I had to click on that shit article thrice.

You're strawmanning a lot, but you are very right about one thing: I was looking for code words for, "how come no female Space Marines?" And, as expected, there it was. I found Waldo.
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Exactly, you went looking for something to be angry about. Just like SJWs. Consider the optics of a dude seeing an article about his favorite hobby and immediately thinking, "I hope it doesn't say anything about women" and then literally reading through looking for that so he can post an angry post on a Warhammer thread. That article was not bad. It was boring AF but it was not an SJW article and it didn't attack you. Whatever dude. Look, there's the left, there's the right, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. SJW bullshit is bullshit but dudes that act like jackasses at the suggestion of women playing "their game" both exist and are just as bad. Let's just say there are a lot more women playing this game than some guys notice and it's entirely possible that they don't notice because it's not that women don't play, it's that they don't play with them.
 
I've started getting into the actual game of 40k. Still too much of a mix of poorfag, frugal, and lacking artistic talent to drop a ton of money on things I'd play more to have an ugly army.

So I've been watching matches on YouTube.

Which has lead to opinion that I'd kinda like more experienced views on.

-Chaos seems to suck. Now I've only watched a few fights, both where the Chaos player went tall with demon primarch, demon Prince, and surprisingly few small squads compared to crazy numbers of Guardsman, or much larger numbers of big Eldar models with more larger squads as well. I suspect it's just bad armies, but not sure.
-First turn advantage seems to be huge. I've seen it's a controversy in the community, but assuming armies are equal, and the loses you can take before you get a turn, statistically it seems like going second is a huge disadvantage.
-The d6 system seems like a hindrance, and promoted going wide over tall. Big units rolling a low level DnD(3-4d6) attack seem at a huge disadvantage to a horde(or a vehicle with multiple attacks) rolling a DD cup worth of dice. I know those mass rolls have a two-three chances to fail with higher odds, but with only six possible outcomes, it seems like rolling 3-4 as many dice is a lot more productive.

Also, does anyone know a resource for finding armies fit Tabletop simulator, as it's probably the only way I'd give a go at playing myself.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I've started getting into the actual game of 40k. Still too much of a mix of poorfag, frugal, and lacking artistic talent to drop a ton of money on things I'd play more to have an ugly army.

So I've been watching matches on YouTube.

Which has lead to opinion that I'd kinda like more experienced views on.

-Chaos seems to suck. Now I've only watched a few fights, both where the Chaos player went tall with demon primarch, demon Prince, and surprisingly few small squads compared to crazy numbers of Guardsman, or much larger numbers of big Eldar models with more larger squads as well. I suspect it's just bad armies, but not sure.
-First turn advantage seems to be huge. I've seen it's a controversy in the community, but assuming armies are equal, and the loses you can take before you get a turn, statistically it seems like going second is a huge disadvantage.
-The d6 system seems like a hindrance, and promoted going wide over tall. Big units rolling a low level DnD(3-4d6) attack seem at a huge disadvantage to a horde(or a vehicle with multiple attacks) rolling a DD cup worth of dice. I know those mass rolls have a two-three chances to fail with higher odds, but with only six possible outcomes, it seems like rolling 3-4 as many dice is a lot more productive.

Also, does anyone know a resource for finding armies fit Tabletop simulator, as it's probably the only way I'd give a go at playing myself.
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You hit on my main gripe with the game: the huge alpha strikes and the sheer boredom of waiting for it to be your turn. There needs to be much more player exchange, or start small and escalate up as the game progresses.

Me and a friend have done a few IG vs Ork matches. The downtime can be quite long.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I've started getting into the actual game of 40k. Still too much of a mix of poorfag, frugal, and lacking artistic talent to drop a ton of money on things I'd play more to have an ugly army.

So I've been watching matches on YouTube.

Which has lead to opinion that I'd kinda like more experienced views on.

-Chaos seems to suck. Now I've only watched a few fights, both where the Chaos player went tall with demon primarch, demon Prince, and surprisingly few small squads compared to crazy numbers of Guardsman, or much larger numbers of big Eldar models with more larger squads as well. I suspect it's just bad armies, but not sure.
-First turn advantage seems to be huge. I've seen it's a controversy in the community, but assuming armies are equal, and the loses you can take before you get a turn, statistically it seems like going second is a huge disadvantage.
-The d6 system seems like a hindrance, and promoted going wide over tall. Big units rolling a low level DnD(3-4d6) attack seem at a huge disadvantage to a horde(or a vehicle with multiple attacks) rolling a DD cup worth of dice. I know those mass rolls have a two-three chances to fail with higher odds, but with only six possible outcomes, it seems like rolling 3-4 as many dice is a lot more productive.

Also, does anyone know a resource for finding armies fit Tabletop simulator, as it's probably the only way I'd give a go at playing myself.
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Horde armies are a big thing in 8th edition. Some of it is to do with the fact that "more models = more firepower", but the way stratagems and command points work also tends to encourage fielding large armies of cheap bodies like cultists, Guard, and ork boys to generate CP and chain together stratagems to fuck up your opponent or get that critical reroll.

Alpha striking's also been a huge thing this edition. People pretty quickly figured out how to build armies that were tailored entirely around getting the first turn, then either tabling the opponent that turn or crippling them so badly the outcome was a foregone conclusion. GW's been trying to balance the game to stop it, but people will always figure out how to build alpha strike lists.

I know some Chaos players have been bitching for a couple of editions now about they got nerfed and haven't recovered, and that does seem true this edition also. I know a guy who plays Death Guard who was routinely getting blown off the table even though he had a really solid army built around Mortarion, and I don't know many guys at my LGS who play Chaos on a regular basis anymore. It's mostly Spess Mehreens with a few Guard, orks, Custodes and genestealer players, plus one guy who has a really good Sisters of Battle army.
 
I am totally fine with girly marines IF:

They got lower strength
They were made so male marines can get kids
They are all hot as hell waifus with big tiddies.

The triggering would be worth it. And spesh wulfs could have something else to bang beside wolves
 
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Second_Missing_Primarch said:
GW's been trying to balance the game to stop it, but people will always figure out how to build alpha strike lists.
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Time wise I was actually impressed with how the game ran, it's still as long as a movie but for all the rolls and number of units or moved reasonably well. I may think d6 is too small of a die, but everything running off of the same die does help with the literal bucket loads needed.

Balancing this game would seem like a nightmare. The incredibly strong lore of the game seems like a minor boon, as I feel it encourages some players to go for who they like over what is the most competitive. That's why I pinged on the d6 being a problems.

Male Idiot said:
I am totally fine with girly marines IF:

They got lower strength
They were made so male marines can get kids
They are all hot as hell waifus with big tiddies.

The triggering would be worth it. And spesh wulfs could have something else to bang beside wolves
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Never give them an inch. You want female space Marines use the sisters of Battle. They use bolters and power armor with out being genetically modified into a super soldier. Yeah they don't do it as well, by the fact that they are not made into merely more human than humanoid killing machine. But they use the same gear and fight the same horrors, as those super humans.

These asshats only want female Marines because they are popular. These types don't care about Sisters of Battle, they probably don't know about them, they just know Space Marines are popular and they want to try and change them for a power trip.

Hell, I don't think most people would be bothered by just head cannoning your Chapter as a secretly lost primarch descended chapter whose seed works on females. I think GW had stated that's why the lost primarchs exist and are practically never filled in on, so you can do whatever you want in making your own chapter.

The gene seed pretty much eliminates all secondary sexual characteristics anyways, a female space marine probably would look almost exactly like a male, they are practically asexual anyways.
 
SourDiesel said:
Exactly, you went looking for something to be angry about. Just like SJWs. Consider the optics of a dude seeing an article about his favorite hobby and immediately thinking, "I hope it doesn't say anything about women" and then literally reading through looking for that so he can post an angry post on a Warhammer thread. That article was not bad. It was boring AF but it was not an SJW article and it didn't attack you. Whatever dude. Look, there's the left, there's the right, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. SJW bullshit is bullshit but dudes that act like jackasses at the suggestion of women playing "their game" both exist and are just as bad. Let's just say there are a lot more women playing this game than some guys notice and it's entirely possible that they don't notice because it's not that women don't play, it's that they don't play with them.
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By George, you've got it! I visited a Kotaku article just to rip on it and not to be enlightened.

Tell me more about Truth, though. And maybe about love.
 
Male Idiot said:
I am totally fine with girly marines IF:

They got lower strength
They were made so male marines can get kids
They are all hot as hell waifus with big tiddies.

The triggering would be worth it. And spesh wulfs could have something else to bang beside wolves
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but that would just overshadow the the already waifus that are the SOB and SOS.

also muh space marine lore.
 
Imperialist #348 said:
but that would just overshadow the the already waifus that are the SOB and SOS.

also muh space marine lore.
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You neckbeards really need to put some points into your "spot a joke" skill.

But if we were serious, female ig or sm would sell better than the more fetish-y sisters, bald or white haired version.

LazarusOwenhart said:
Just to weigh in, I do lament the lack of female Imperial Guard models. In Space Marine, Lieutenant Mira is a fucking badass and I'd quite like a few female IG in my lineup.
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Sjws never read up and propably do not know about the ig, only sm. And most likely think they are all blue.
 
Honestly, it doesn't even matter anyway. SJWs want everything to have "representation", so they screech for pointless shit like female space marines. I say pointless because, why there aren't more women or minorities in Warhammer is the same reason there aren't more of these people in engineering or professional cooking or all sorts of male dominated stuff. It's complicated and if you see the lack of women in certain spaces as a problem, which isn't necessarily wrong, the solution to a societal problem isn't yelling at individual businesses to make fucking female space marines. It wouldn't hurt anything and women that already play will like it but it's not gonna suddenly make a bunch of uninterested women get into 40k.

Recently I saw on the community page they had partnered with boy scouts to create a painting badge. They supply a bunch of marines and stormcast and paints and stuff and get kids to paint models. This is a good idea. Do this with girl scouts too maybe. Better idea than female space marines.
 
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Male Idiot said:
I am totally fine with girly marines IF:

They got lower strength
They were made so male marines can get kids
They are all hot as hell waifus with big tiddies.

The triggering would be worth it. And spesh wulfs could have something else to bang beside wolves
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I'm telling Honsou about this
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Dial M for Misgender said:
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You didn't need that college fund anyway
 
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