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HTTP Error 404 said:
Humblebundle has regular Black Library bundles, often on or around one of the Warhammer days. They might be worth keeping an eye out for them. Or did you mean physical copies?
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Either or really, I realize expecting physical copies of Black Library books is difficult, given they sell out quickly
 
Depressed_Oni said:
Either or really, I realize expecting physical copies of Black Library books is difficult, given they sell out quickly
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If you want physical copies, try searching any used bookstores in your area. I've assembled a decent collection of Warhammer novels and omnibuses on the cheap this way. I did walk into a secondhand bookstore a while back and saw that they had several Heresy paperbacks in a locked cabinet in their rare books section, all of which were priced at like $65 a pop. I'm assuming they were first editions, but given that you can still buy the paperbacks on GW's webstore it made me laugh my ass off at the sheer audacity of anyone trying to charge that much for a $10 book.
 
Meat Target said:
I had to see it, so you do, too.

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Reminds me of an artist who draws a lot of pokemon marines and sexy skaven. He gets shit on by 40k autists for it, but I think it's fun. They would make a fun kill team at least. I would post his work but he's harmless and I like his stuff (he also draws 40k skaven and MLP GI Joes). His beastman guard art is interesting because I've heard people online demand that from GW. I remember one YouTube video where they kitbashed some from a beastman fantasy kit.

While I don't think this was the video I was thinking of, this is the same concept.
I think the one I saw was some frostgrave demon heads with sci-fi arms.

Meat Target said:
If you're gonna have Femstodes, at least make them pretty.
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That's always the problem, isn't it. They demand female models, then get pissy when you turn up with your 3D printed catgirl legion.

FedPostalService said:
Do the ork cheerleaders from Blood Bowl count?
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Not played those games in ages. I remember lizard men having skinks that do fan dances.
 
Judge Dredd said:
That's always the problem, isn't it. They demand female models, then get pissy when you turn up with your 3D printed catgirl legion.
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This is what I never understood. I knew the female space marine thing was always a fetish thing. Going back in the day the only people who posted that was for fetish jerking off drawings but when you point it out they go “Nuh uh I want female space marines for equal representation and unique story perspectives” and then when femstodes dropped they did nothing but post muscle mommy fetish porn for weeks.
 
AncientPhosphur said:
This is what I never understood. I knew the female space marine thing was always a fetish thing. Going back in the day the only people who posted that was for fetish jerking off drawings but when you point it out they go “Nuh uh I want female space marines for equal representation and unique story perspectives” and then when femstodes dropped they did nothing but post muscle mommy fetish porn for weeks.
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You would think they'd be placated by the existence of the Sororitas or Sisters of Silence (who are an affiliate of the Custodes). Then again, as the Emperor's Children have shown, gooners are never placated. They always need more, just to feel something in their dopamine receptors.
 
augment said:
Thank god I play Eldar and thus I can skip the whole "female space marines/femstodes" rigmarole.
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Just under half the howling banshees are male elves playing at being female.
When they are on the Path they become the aspect.
 
I was more peeved at orks being they/them for Yarrick or whatnot.

Eldar made the tranny god so it has always been there.

But orks just used ",he" as a stand in for their asexual nature, as they are very masculine it made sense.
You could even make the joke that otks didn't get she, or females in general.
 
So a little odd, but how "real" are Space Marines within the setting? Are they, like, established fact and outright acknowledged to exist by common people, or are they a mythical legend that only high ranking Imperial Guard know to be actually true?

My knowledge of the setting is a bit all over the place, so I've been subject to a mix of "they're just human propaganda" and "we must immediately drop to our knees and revere them the second they come up in conversation". I understand that not even the existence of Chaos is treated as a fact.
 
Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
So a little odd, but how "real" are Space Marines within the setting? Are they, like, established fact and outright acknowledged to exist by common people, or are they a mythical legend that only high ranking Imperial Guard know to be actually true?

My knowledge of the setting is a bit all over the place, so I've been subject to a mix of "they're just human propaganda" and "we must immediately drop to our knees and revere them the second they come up in conversation". I understand that not even the existence of Chaos is treated as a fact.
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The average human is never going to see one or be anywhere near one and for them it might not even be mythology that they've heard of. The average guardsman is only ever going to see one if the situation they're in is a total shit show, and their life expectancy at that point is generally pretty short but they do know that space marines exist. Imperial navy command officers are more likely to encounter them simply due to coordination of military efforts, but the average rank and file on an imperial navy ship is likely to never encounter one. admech know they exist, and obviously work with them(tech marines, providing equipment, repairing things, etc.). Anyone involved in the ecclesiarchy knows they exist, planetary governors know they exist, and so on.

So yes, it really is a mix of people immediately dropping to their feet to worship them at times. GW actually did an interesting animation on their wh+ thing a while back. I think it was Iron Within? Basically, a planet is under siege by dark eldar, and some space marines show up and immediately start kicking the shit out of the dark eldar. The problem is that the space marines were relatively "normal" looking since they were Iron Warriors and because it wasn't super obvious most of the guard there assumed they were there to save the day. Clearly since it was Iron Warriors, the day was not saved, the leadership of the guard unit there plays kiss ass and end up as traitor guard, and so on. So GW writers do realize how much of a mess the lore is regarding space marines and their interaction with the rest of the imperium and can on occasion play into that for at least an interesting animation short.

And yes, for the general population outside of the inquisition, grey knights, and space marines, chaos is basically treated as a secret(the ciaphas cain novels and some others kinda go over this) with military and civilians getting a wake up call regarding the existence of chaos from time to time. There's also been lore over the years of grey knights and space wolves getting into fights because the space wolves didn't want to purge a population just because they were vaguely aware now that chaos existed as the grey knights helped them clean it up(and of course they wanted to mind wipe the space wolves, and they definitely weren't having that).

But generally speaking, any human encountering traitor marines, chaos demons, or anything much more than reporting some weird activity to the local arbites or inquisition enclave, probably has a lifespan measured in minutes at most with the bulk of the writing unless they basically immediately turn traitor and even that's not a guarantee of survival.
 
Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
So a little odd, but how "real" are Space Marines within the setting? Are they, like, established fact and outright acknowledged to exist by common people, or are they a mythical legend that only high ranking Imperial Guard know to be actually true?

My knowledge of the setting is a bit all over the place, so I've been subject to a mix of "they're just human propaganda" and "we must immediately drop to our knees and revere them the second they come up in conversation". I understand that not even the existence of Chaos is treated as a fact.
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I believe that the average Imperial is aware of the Space Marines. They are blessed angels of death, embodiment of the God-Emperor’s wrath, and so on.

Chaos is known but simply as an obscure boogeyman. Something has to represent evil to contrast with the holiness of the Emperor. Failing to follow your orders, suggest better working conditions, reading prohibited texts, would be viewed as heretical, which leads to bad things happening to you. That’s probably as close as the average Imperial knows about Chaos.

The actual truth, as in the existence of heretical cults and even traitor forces are only known to the higher echelons of the Imperium (military leaders, planetary governors, high-ranking officials). Then the real truth, the knowledge of chaos daemons and their gods are known only to those with the strongest wills (Inquisition, Grey Knights, etc).
 
Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
So a little odd, but how "real" are Space Marines within the setting? Are they, like, established fact and outright acknowledged to exist by common people, or are they a mythical legend that only high ranking Imperial Guard know to be actually true?

My knowledge of the setting is a bit all over the place, so I've been subject to a mix of "they're just human propaganda" and "we must immediately drop to our knees and revere them the second they come up in conversation". I understand that not even the existence of Chaos is treated as a fact.
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Like many other things in the setting, it's subjective, due to the vastness of the Imperium.

Your average peasant working in a Hive City factory or a Feudal World farm has been raised in the Imperial Cult, and thus believes in the existence of Astartes despite never seeing one in person, like a Christian believing in angels.

On the other hand, there are planets like Krieg who doubt even the existence of the Imperium, having not been contacted by any of its agents for generations, and try to strike out on their own.
 
Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
So a little odd, but how "real" are Space Marines within the setting? Are they, like, established fact and outright acknowledged to exist by common people, or are they a mythical legend that only high ranking Imperial Guard know to be actually true?

My knowledge of the setting is a bit all over the place, so I've been subject to a mix of "they're just human propaganda" and "we must immediately drop to our knees and revere them the second they come up in conversation". I understand that not even the existence of Chaos is treated as a fact.
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It depends on which planet you're talking about, honestly. Because outside of their Chapter's fiefdoms (but even then, this is an coin toss) they're more or less an myth to the average guardsman. Although, from what I've read if they managed to see one, their unit is too mauled to do anything useful.
 
Happy 1000 pages, may we reach 39 more anniversaries.

p1138 said:
And yes, for the general population outside of the inquisition, grey knights, and space marines, chaos is basically treated as a secret(the ciaphas cain novels and some others kinda go over this) with military and civilians getting a wake up call regarding the existence of chaos from time to time. There's also been lore over the years of grey knights and space wolves getting into fights because the space wolves didn't want to purge a population just because they were vaguely aware now that chaos existed as the grey knights helped them clean it up(and of course they wanted to mind wipe the space wolves, and they definitely weren't having that).
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I think that if you are high enough (commissar or commander) you get the debriefing that chaos is a force rather than nebulous traitors with magical rituals.

Also my headcanon for the GK and Space Wolves mind wipe was that the Space Wolves might accidentally came to know secret information about the GK that puts them at risk.
 
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