- Joined
- Jun 21, 2013
>Second foundingErm they are both Son's of Dorn, The Templars used 1st Captain Sigismund's Heraldry as there Chapter Heraldry during the 2nd founding, in the second founding Dorn kept the die hard fists inline with the codex, Sigismund took the old guard fists who valued honour and valour, and the name Black Templars, and Alexus Polox took the younger more level headed Imperial fists and they became the Crimson Fists who adpoted the imperial fist's iconography but in red to represent there loyalty to Polox.
There might have been another chapter founded as according to various sources 3500+ Imperial Fists survived the Iron Cage indecent, but the records are either lost or the extra 500 where split between the other 2nd founding chapters.
>True sons
Ridiculous. Next you'll tell me the Excoriators matter.