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Well, the real-world Nazis were diverse. Yes, surprising, I know, given what we're usually told about them, but there were Croatian Nazis, French Nazis, lots of Slavs who hated the Soviets joined the Nazis, there were even Muslim Nazis, and they had the Japanese, as well as many Asian collaborators who hated the British, French, and the USA, as allies. Hell, a lot of Indians who hated the British agreed with Nazi philosophy and even sought to sabotage India's war effort to support the British during WW2. Not to mention that the Nazi SA, before they were put down like animals, were homosexuals. So yes, a good number of Nazis, their old guard no less, were all in on the ''gayfaggotbumsex'' before the Nazis decided to add gays to the untermenschen list and put them down.
well you see hitler switftly corrected that. also yeah a colonial empire is going to have involvement form more than its core ethnicity
Not to mention Guilliman hates the Imperium's dystopia and would obviously work to making it better. And of course, they want the good guys to be diverse, so this is their slow inching towards making an official good guy faction and making it pro-diversity. They tried it back then with the Tau, it didn't work, but they're trying it again, with Matt Ward's Ultramarines no less.
i cant imagine understanding a setting i made less than gw.

The old suits know that a good chunk of the fanbase won't like female space marines, and so tried to shut them down. But now those old suits are slowly being replaced by DEI/ESG-friendly suits who want that Blackrock money, so now you're seeing it happen. Custodes are the first step, they'll soon have female Astartes running around, being made from accomplished Sisters of Battle or other subjects.
they might as well make them, they already shit the bed here might as well at least strike while lefty side of things is still hyped up from it. they could at least ride high off the coke and the fuck chuds train before poverty.
 
As for 40K, again, this was coming. Despite GW stating that all sides were evil in 40K, they were obviously inching towards making the Ultramarines into the good guys, to the point where Ultramarine territories were far better in terms of quality of life when compared to the rest of the Imperium of Man. Not to mention Guilliman hates the Imperium's dystopia and would obviously work to making it better. And of course, they want the good guys to be diverse, so this is their slow inching towards making an official good guy faction and making it pro-diversity. They tried it back then with the Tau, it didn't work, but they're trying it again, with Matt Ward's Ultramarines no less.
Oh pleaase, the Ultrasmurfs were always the poster Boy Scouts, thats why so many always mocked and made fun of their faction, even PapaSmurf hating how shitty the Imperium was a thing since the start. Like, its just how this faction always functiones, bunch of naive dorks who think they can fix shit.
 
Oh pleaase, the Ultrasmurfs were always the poster Boy Scouts, thats why so many always mocked and made fun of their faction, even PapaSmurf hating how shitty the Imperium was a thing since the start. Like, its just how this faction always functiones, bunch of naive dorks who think they can fix shit.
Hence why they're going to be made into the good guys. With the power of plot, they might just fix things, and they'll make it so that making the Imperium more diverse is the solution.

Anything is possible with the power of plot armor and the author's blessing.

well you see hitler switftly corrected that. also yeah a colonial empire is going to have involvement form more than its core ethnicity
Only with the gays. The other diverse allies, Hitler kept. His last line of defense in Berlin were French Waffen SS volunteers.

i cant imagine understanding a setting i made less than gw.
It depends. The setting was always made so that some leftist dorks can scream about how bad some religious and military conservatives are. So if it pleases the leftist hive mind to make female Space Marines, they'll do it. Especially since it's now demanded by the Left.

they might as well make them, they already shit the bed here might as well at least strike while lefty side of things is still hyped up from it. they could at least ride high off the coke and the fuck chuds train before poverty.
Basically, that's what GW probably thinks. If the Left will love it, at least they'll get some ESG/DEI money from it and raise their Social Justice Credit Score.

I just don't understand why these people have to insert their fetishes into literally everything they do?
The writing was on the wall when Slaneesh exists, if you think about it.
If anyone thought that GW authors didn't have weird kinks, you need to look closer. GW writers have always had a bit of a kink to them.

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Once the female Marines are in, the Homo Marines are going to be next.
 
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Only with the gays. The other diverse allies, Hitler kept. His last line of defense in Berlin were French Waffen SS volunteers.
which are white, the point being theres still a much heavier level of exclusivity with a nazi group vs the rainbow race and gender brigade.
It depends. The setting was always made so that some leftist dorks can scream about how bad some religious and military conservatives are. So if it pleases the leftist hive mind to make female Space Marines, they'll do it. Especially since it's now demanded by the Left.
oh silly me i meant understand in terms of what people would want when presented with its prior material, but youre right thats not really the goal, the goal is to appease faggots. im not being sarcastic to you btw youre right here.
Basically, that's what GW probably thinks. If the Left will love it, at least they'll get some ESG/DEI money from it and raise their Social Justice Credit Score.
well now theyre correct because their sneaking and gaslighting failed so each day without a fsm is just wasted time really.
Once the female Marines are in, the Homo Marines are going to be next.
unironically they may as well skip to black trans mecha wheelchair midget quadriplegic mentally retarded bi pan bipoc mixed mongrel balding fat non binary space marine. just get as many "historic firsts" into the hobby and soak up the praise before the hobby becomes history
 
which are white, the point being theres still a much heavier level of exclusivity with a nazi group vs the rainbow race and gender brigade.

oh silly me i meant understand in terms of what people would want when presented with its prior material, but youre right thats not really the goal, the goal is to appease faggots. im not being sarcastic to you btw youre right here.

well now theyre correct because their sneaking and gaslighting failed so each day without a fsm is just wasted time really.

unironically they may as well skip to black trans mecha wheelchair midget quadriplegic mentally retarded bi pan bipoc mixed mongrel balding fat non binary space marine. just get as many "historic firsts" into the hobby and soak up the praise before the hobby becomes history
Dreadnoughts are crippled marines but you’ll still soyface for a boxnaught right?
 
Hence why they're going to be made into the good guys. With the power of plot, they might just fix things, and they'll make it so that making the Imperium more diverse is the solution.

Anything is possible with the power of plot armor and the author's blessing.
An yet, whenever they get involved they barely fix shit, get their shit pushed in or fuck up royally. For guys who both have plot armor and authors blessings, they never seem to be doing too well, instead just making vague promises to fix stuff.
 
I give it 4 maybe 5 years max before some "genius" suddenly "realizes" there's a market for the old shit. They'll rebrand it and call to "retro".
I think that's kind of the entire point of D&D* and AD&D* Old School Rennaissance games.

*See the linked games... they aren't by Wizards of the Coast or Hasbro. (And there are more than just these two.)
You'd think that it would spread in marketing conventions that SJW shit is cancer, but nope. Everyone has to keep trying. Maybe THEY'LL capture the elusive tranny faggot market AND somehow manage to keep their old fans buying this new garbage too.
Perhaps the elusive tranny faggot market is the friends we made along the way.

I mean enemies.

Enemies with no money, and no inclination to spend that money on (formerly) fun nerd hobbies even if they had it, since they have meth addictions to feed.
 
An yet, whenever they get involved they barely fix shit, get their shit pushed in or fuck up royally. For guys who both have plot armor and authors blessings, they never seem to be doing too well, instead just making vague promises to fix stuff.
That can change any time. A new author can come along and say that the Ultramarines fixed everything with the power of diversity, tolerance, and friendship.

which are white, the point being theres still a much heavier level of exclusivity with a nazi group vs the rainbow race and gender brigade.
White and Yellow. Can't forget Pearl Harbor, Midway, Manila, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. Some of the hardest battles the Allies fought, that helped take up resources and helped the Nazis last for a bit longer. Every soldier the Allies sent to fight the Japanese and their allies was one less soldier sent to fight the Germans.

oh silly me i meant understand in terms of what people would want when presented with its prior material, but youre right thats not really the goal, the goal is to appease faggots. im not being sarcastic to you btw youre right here.
There's always been this thing called ''death of the author'', which built up its own culture. It's what allowed Star Wars fans to think that maybe, Star Wars' Dark Side and the Empire weren't as bad as what Lucas set them up to be, or that maybe, Batman is as much to blame for the crime in Gotham as the crooks themselves. Warhammer had a strong culture of this, the Imperium was meant to be just as much of a problem for the people of 40K as the other factions were, but over time, some fans and authors re-interpreted things to make it feel as if the Imperium is a shield against mankind's foes, and no matter how bad it is, we must support it, because the enemy is always worse.

This phenomenon is as old as fiction itself. Before the Three Kingdoms novel was written, the Wei Empire during China's Three Kingdoms era was seen as the legitimate Empire, the rightful successors of the Han, and the Shu-Han were mere usurpers. Liu Bei, the ruler of the Shu-Han, crowned himself as the new Han emperor right after the true Han Emperor, Liu Xie, sold his rights to the throne to his brother-in-law, Cao Pi, who then renamed the Han Empire the Wei Empire and continued his brother-in-law's regime. But over time, people began to saw Liu Bei as the rightful ruler of that era, and the official Romance of the Three Kingdoms book written by Luo Guanzhong portrayed Liu Bei as the hero and the Cao family as the villains, even though the official history texts painted Liu Bei as a rebel usurper.

Warhammer 40K flourished with this trope, with many fans and authors presenting the Imperium as a dark fantasy Gondor holding back the evil forces of Chaos and Xenos, where no matter as bad as the Imperium is, defending it and helping it is necessary, for the forces of Chaos and Xenos are worse. This, of course, pissed off the old-guard leftists at GW and among the 40K fanbase, and so, they wanted to do one of two things; either make the Imperium fully evil and have another faction be the actual good guys, or have the Imperium reform and be the good guys. They tried the former with the Tau, it didn't work, so they just made the Tau as bad as the Imperium, so now, they're going to try the latter and make the Imperium diverse and fix its shit so that it can be the presentable, good guy faction. Making female Custodes is the first step, especially since the Custodes are important to the point where they rank above the Astartes and can only be commanded by the Emperor or his regent, Primarch Guilliman.

well now theyre correct because their sneaking and gaslighting failed so each day without a fsm is just wasted time really.
So now, their masks are off, and they're just gonna go full-in to make 40K diverse and make it a leftist franchise in full. No more appeasing conservatives by not making female Space Marines.

unironically they may as well skip to black trans mecha wheelchair midget quadriplegic mentally retarded bi pan bipoc mixed mongrel balding fat non binary space marine. just get as many "historic firsts" into the hobby and soak up the praise before the hobby becomes history
They'll probably do that, too. Hell, you can have all sorts of stories like that with Space Marine Dreadnoughts. Maybe one of them identifies as a she, and will gun you down if you call it a ''he''.
 
That can change any time. A new author can come along and say that the Ultramarines fixed everything with the power of diversity, tolerance, and friendship.
I call bullshit, every author they had just pounded them harder in then the last one did. But hey, keep believing it'll happen somewhere down the line.
 
IF Primaris are so bad and the fact that for example 4chan /tg/ hates them and a good portion of this Warhammer thread hates them why is it whenever people who post WiP/their space marine armies they are always primaris marines? It happens on /tg/ , it happens in this thread. The sad fact is you all including me are sad battered house wifes who will never "truly" leave warhammer. You say all this crap "ill never give GW a single cent but ill still partake in a community for it!" and you'll do all this crap to play warhammer with 3D printed models, pirated rules, or fanmade rules when all that effort could have been used in supporting another game and their models. 8th editions lore and rules were a litmus test for this, if you were still here buying or playing 40k you'll never leave not even female custodes or even female space marines wont make you leave deep down. Also buying Horus Heresy/Old world shit is not taking a stand you still pushing a GW market share.
I wasn't saying Primaris were a loss for GW, I was saying the favouritism towards shilling and stocking Primaris models was another factor for people turning to 3D prints. Speaking direct from experience, I have several mates who went all in on 3D printed Russian knockoffs as a direct result of Primaris models. It was like a last straw for them.

Forums and online communities don't really represent anything solid imo. If I ask the dads I catch up with on the weekend what they think about 4chan /tg/ they're gonna stare blankly at me. Tbh it's the online communities that are destroying these franchises in a lot of ways. Lorespergs who spend $0 on it or degenerate trannies that make it their whole identity to paint shit blue and purple.
 
It can easily happen down the line. All it takes is a penstroke. It's clear that they no longer care about what the fans think, so anything is fair game.
If that was the deal, they would have done it a long time ago and not given a shit. All you guys are doing in punching at shadows an screaming "it'll tots happen anyday soon" and whats the proof? Oh ye, a faction that shouldnt even have been playble gettin a bunch of bitches, that I doubt anyone will care to buy or get. They'll be busy pissing boiliny water, over how much the Costudes suck on the table now.

Also, lets not beat around the bush, the 40k fans are most unpleasable faggots ever.
 
What's with all this self-censorship? You can just say nigger or faggot, it's not a big deal.

Say nigger or faggot. Say it.

NOW.
Heil Hilary! Glory to the Niggerfaggot Party of America!

Anyway, Warhammer. I'm a filthy tertiary that doesn't actually play the games and it's honestly fun watching the fandom become the grimdark future that is only war.
 
If that was the deal, they would have done it a long time ago and not given a shit. All you guys are doing in punching at shadows an screaming "it'll tots happen anyday soon" and whats the proof? Oh ye, a faction that shouldnt even have been playble gettin a bunch of bitches, that I doubt anyone will care to buy or get. They'll be busy pissing boiliny water, over how much the Costudes suck on the table now.

Also, lets not beat around the bush, the 40k fans are most unpleasable faggots ever.
It's the slow, creeping doom that is approaching. We saw this with Matt Ward and him raising the Ultramarines above every other faction. We saw this with them presenting the Ultramarines as heroes to children. And now, Custodes can be female, and guess what, Custodes take orders from the Ultramarine Primarch who now serves as the Emperor's regent.

Only a fool will miss all these clues.
 
Oh pleaase, the Ultrasmurfs were always the poster Boy Scouts, thats why so many always mocked and made fun of their faction, even PapaSmurf hating how shitty the Imperium was a thing since the start. Like, its just how this faction always functiones, bunch of naive dorks who think they can fix shit.
I don't know why we can't get sanguinius back but we get Gilliam in and the lion don't get me wrong Lionel Johnson's a cool character
but why can't we get a phone number with Magnus the red is redeemed that would at least be interesting from a perspective

also why can't they just make a war in heaven book series then they could sell so many more miniatures of the elf necrons and quark miniatures but that would make financial sense
ultra mega super death Eldorado battle suit $2000


An yet, whenever they get involved they barely fix shit, get their shit pushed in or fuck up royally. For guys who both have plot armor and authors blessings, they never seem to be doing too well, instead just making vague promises to fix stuff.
Imperial guard novels are much more fun to read because they're normal human beings facing down giant aliens they should really make kavis Kane the poster boy for the imperium
yet I can't get a model of him or amberly veil I want my evil psychotic auto xenos lady .
Here's all these cool characters we're gonna put in these books do you have miniatures of them no just use the commissary stat sheet because we're too lazy to create extra stats sheets.
If you're gonna make this really long ten book novel series about name characters and not give them miniatures you just leaving money on the table at that point but GW has never been a well run company
 
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