Warhammer 40k

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I wonder if the Lion and the Dark Angels will show up in Space Marine 2.

It would've made more sense if each Space Marine game had a different chapter. The first game would have the Ultramarines, the second game would have the Dark Angels, the third game would have the Blood Angels, the fourth would have the Space Wolves, on and on, with each new game having the fans vote on which chapter it would focus on. Maybe even one with the Custodes, Grey Knights, or Death Watch. It'd be funny if you play as a Grey Knight and you try not to reveal yourself to the common soldier, because if they see you, you'll have to shoot them.

 

[Humble Architect]

Well the Death Guard are actual racists towards the T*rrans (vehicle crews go choom) and they exclusively recruited from Barbarus. The divide between Terran and Primarch homeworld marines was on a whole other level in that legion, its really funny.

That’s another thing, some legions recruit from all over, while some exclusively use their primarch homeworld. Obviously emergency replenishments are a thing but the elitism is strong, especially in non-horde “smaller” legions. Like the EC and Death Guard.

Some Death Guard actually tried to preserve fauna samples from Barbarus when the Dark Angels came to party, they really loved their home.

 

[The Tall Man]

"who cares"

I do, it looks like shit.

Also why not complain about the Salamanders being all charcoal black?

Because nobody complains about the color of their skin, it's that they look like Niggers.

You are being disingenuous, because the Ultramarines are the Roman Legion in Space. That means they should look like buff Spaghetti-Nigger and not Congo-Nigger.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Mike Brooks taking shots at Sargon via BL is next level pathetic.

If he wanted to make him angry he should have made him a raging faggot who is thirsting for dick all the time.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Except they're based off Gene Seeds, and Gene Seeds overrule a recruit's ethnicity.

There's a Horus Heresy scene where some White Scar recruits from Terra are mentioned, and it explicitly mentions that by the end of the implantation and all that jazz, they looked just like any other recruit from Chogoris -- the Gene Seed overwrites their ethnicity with Jaghatai Khan's. All Ultramarines SHOULD end up looking kinda like Guilliman after the Gene Seed takes full effect -- i.e., Romans.

I do, it looks like shit.

Because nobody complains about the color of their skin, it's that they look like Niggers.

You are being disingenuous, because the Ultramarines are the Roman Legion in Space. That means they should look like buff Spaghetti-Nigger and not Congo-Nigger.

What does a Roman look like? Because the Romans didn't conceptualise race the same way that we do today - the concept of being white or black or whatever is a fairly recent phenomenon. To the Romans, there were only two races - Roman and barbarian.

You could be black as the night or pale and pasty white and you'd still be considered a Roman. So, by your own standard, having a black Ultramarine makes perfect sense.

Never mind that, as people have already mentioned, Ultramar is system of planets, so it would actually make more sense for the Ultramarines to be multiracial.

 

[The Tall Man]

What does a Roman look like? Because the Romans didn't conceptualise race the same way that we do today - the concept of being white or black or whatever is a fairly recent phenomenon. To the Romans, there were only two races - Roman and barbarian.

That's complete nonsense.
The Italians of today are still overwhelmingly the same genetic stock as the ancient Romans.
Mostly dark haired, dark eyed, fair skinned to olive skinned, White people.

I would have made Guilliman look less like a Gaul and base him of Cesar who was described with dark hair and black eyes.

Romans distinguished between all races; they weren't ignorant. They knew the Gauls had blond hair and blue eyes, and the Arabs were hook-nosed and swarthy. Just because you were a subject of the Roman Empire didn't mean you were a Roman citizen. The expansion of Roman citizenship in the ending stages of the Roman Empire is definitely a factor in why it crumbled; it led to the dissolution of the core identity of what Rome is. People are willing to fight for their family and their people but not for a piece of paper and an economic zone.

You could be black as the night or pale and pasty white and you'd still be considered a Roman

A Black person could be part of the Roman Empire and even have the papers to prove it (extremely rare, if it happened at all) but even the Gauls that migrated into the heart of Rome were never considered ture Romans. Only once Rome became Christian did they slowly adopt a more universalist stance.

So, by your own standard, having a black Ultramarine makes perfect sense.

Please show me all those example of Roman citizens that were Black and if it exceeds 0.1% of roman citizens than you might have a point.

Never mind that, as people have already mentioned, Ultramar is system of planets, so it would actually make more sense for the Ultramarines to be multiracial.

It's a stereotype of the Roman Legion, not reality, and that stereotype means they should look like Italians.

But if you want to make a reality argument, then the reality is that multicultural societies always fail (Star Trek space communism isn't real), and the only way Blacks would get to other planets would be to be taken there by other races.

How do you see a planet full of Blacks as realistic when they can't even keep a third-world civilization afloat without some colonial power like France or China managing them and a constant stream of foreign aid?
And how do you see a multicultural space nation as realistic when you look at the degradation of the USA and how it nicely coincides with the increase of the non-White population?

Multicultural space fairing societies are the most unrealistic aspect of science fiction.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

It's a stereotype of the Roman Legion

So, it sounds pretty fitting for a bunch of lads in power armour who used to knock about calling themselves 'Legions' in the good old days of the Horus Heresy.

It's hilarious to me that you're going to claim that Romans were all white because 'muh Italy'. Fuck, Italians were barely considered white until very recently, historically speaking.

Rome was an empire. Empires spread. And as they spread, the likelihood of them encountering niggers increases.



Look at that shit. Why do you suppose we have niggers everywhere now?

I would have made Guilliman look less like a Gaul and base him of Cesar who was described with dark hair and black eyes.

Not Septimius Severus?
It's a miniatures game, dude. You can paint your Guilliman however you like.

How do you see a planet full of Blacks as realistic

I don't, actually. Similarly, I don't think a planet full of white people is particularly realistic. Why would planets in science-fiction be restricted to one race per planet? Our planet isn't like that. There's bound to be racial differences, contingent on climate and location and all sorts of other factors.

For that matter, why would a different planet conform to the stereotypes of our planet?

 

[The Tall Man]

It's hilarious to me that you're going to claim that Romans were all white because 'muh Italy'. Fuck, Italians were barely considered white until very recently, historically speaking

Yes, Anglo supremacy is pathetic, just like Nordicism.

The fact that Italy still has mostly the exact same genetics as ancient Romans shows that there was no multicultural immigration at any relevant scale. They took over other peoples' lands and told those people they are Romans now, not shipped a bunch of Arabs into Rome itself.

Look at that shit. Why do you suppose we have niggers everywhere now?

There is an endless list of Jewish and Judeo-Christian organizations that facilitate mass immigration of third worlders into the West.
Why are they doing this?
Because they are religious zealots who believe that for the Mashiach to come, the West needs to be destroyed by Islam.

Here it is from the mouth of a religious Kiwi Jew.

And if you think "Catch the Rainbow" is just some fringe weirdo, then listen to some rabbis explaining it.

The Judeo-Christian belief system posits that the Jewish Messiah is the Antichrist, and for Jesus to come, the Antichrist must rule the world.

But let's not delve into a lengthy debate about Jews and their advocacy for immigration; you can research that yourself if you're interested.
Or simply dismiss me as a chud and ignore it.

I don't, actually. Similarly, I don't think a planet full of white people is particularly realistic. Why would planets in science-fiction be restricted to one race per planet? Our planet isn't like that. There's bound to be racial differences, contingent on climate and location and all sorts of other factors.

That is easy to explain. Humans have a natural ingroup preference, and if races had the power to have a planet to themselves without having to genocide everyone else, they would. It takes a constant stream of propaganda and physical violence to suppress this ingroup preference, and even then, once the environmental stress increases, it comes back. Just look at prisons or schools.


Ultramarines are a caricature of the Roman Legion, meaning that one battalion of Ethiopians that served in Egypt under Rome doesn't really apply. What you should see is a bunch of dark-haired White people who act according to a strong military code.

The argument that in reality, future planets would be multicultural is only supported by science fiction, while reality points towards the opposite, so it's nonsense.

 

[ZMOT]

But if you want to make a reality argument, then the reality is that multicultural societies always fail (Star Trek space communism isn't real), and the only way Blacks would get to other planets would be to be taken there by other races.

How do you see a planet full of Blacks as realistic when they can't even keep a third-world civilization afloat without some colonial power like France or China managing them and a constant stream of foreign aid?
And how do you see a multicultural space nation as realistic when you look at the degradation of the USA and how it nicely coincides with the increase of the non-White population?

to be fair, there's nothing keeping them from developing naturally the same way it did on our little blue marble.
same goes for intelligence.

if anything in a space setting spanning millennia coming across literal wakanda is more like than here.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

I don't think Gulliman's geneseed makes people look like the primarch.

 

[Male Idiot]

Catgirls? I think catboys would fit Nu-hammer better.

Make Nickus Fuentus the leader of a corrupt army, where you need to save all the gay catboys from him.

 

[Humble Architect]

So, it sounds pretty fitting for a bunch of lads in power armour who used to knock about calling themselves 'Legions' in the good old days of the Horus Heresy.

It's hilarious to me that you're going to claim that Romans were all white because 'muh Italy'. Fuck, Italians were barely considered white until very recently, historically speaking.

Rome was an empire. Empires spread. And as they spread, the likelihood of them encountering niggers increases.

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Look at that shit. Why do you suppose we have niggers everywhere now?



Not Septimius Severus?
It's a miniatures game, dude. You can paint your Guilliman however you like.



I don't, actually. Similarly, I don't think a planet full of white people is particularly realistic. Why would planets in science-fiction be restricted to one race per planet? Our planet isn't like that. There's bound to be racial differences, contingent on climate and location and all sorts of other factors.

For that matter, why would a different planet conform to the stereotypes of our planet?

I hate niggers and I hate seeing them in my escapism.

I don't think Gulliman's geneseed makes people look like the primarch.

Like a 1/10 situation, I’d imagine. HH Ultras are actually cool, I think you could track which legions had it by the lack of personality/purity cults. Obviously each legion is a bunch of frat bros but it’s not like Roboute’s name is a warcry like Horus’s bunch of guidos.

 

[Level99Manchild]

The funny thing about the Sargon situation is even centrists and a few right wingers hate him for being a two-faced bitch. The Mgtow guys like Undead Chronic and Hammerhand really hate his two-faced politics and how he simps to single-moms (don't expect antisjw fags like Yellowpiss, Quarterpounder, and Grifters and Goyims to look into anything. They still think Simpmongold is on their side never mind he tried to cancel Gundam).

Some tranny is a little butthurt he got on the blacklist, and people are calling him out.

He knows Discourse is a tranny, right?

 

[Hillary Clinton's Ass]

The funny thing about the Sargon situation is even centrists and a few right wingers hate him for being a two-faced bitch. The Mgtow guys like Undead Chronic and Hammerhand really hate his two-faced politics and how he simps to single-moms (don't expect antisjw fags like Yellowpiss, Quarterpounder, and Grifters and Goyims to look into anything. They still think Simpmongold is on their side never mind he tried to cancel Gundam).

Some tranny is a little butthurt he got on the blacklist, and people are calling him out.

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He knows Discourse is a tranny, right?

Business as usual really, a tranny that follows another tranny. Archive of his playlists.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Which again, is why I see the bru-ha-ha with the female Custodes to be completely pointless. It's non-canon lore. You can just as easily ignore it and just paint your Custodes and pretend that they're all men. More damaging are the nerfs they introduced, because that shit will actually matter if you take your Custodes out to play. I was planning on getting a Custodes army before this, but after they got nerfed, I might as well settle for a Dark Angels army instead in the future.

Warhammer isn’t like magic the gathering or tcgs that rotate out their cards. A lot of the models someone bought in the late 80s could still be used today and until recently GW didn’t try to clamp down on that. Even so no one is going to care if they’re proxied as similar units and in some areas there’s still people who play older editions. Part of why I don’t like tcg games is how fast the meta changes and how much some cards fluctuate in price and usefulness.

Dark Angels recruited from a world based on Native American's this is ancient lore but imo should have been kept

That was with their raven wing specifically, right? I kinda wish they kept that too. I kinda like the idea of a mixture of knights/native American aesthetic.

What does a Roman look like? Because the Romans didn't conceptualise race the same way that we do today - the concept of being white or black or whatever is a fairly recent phenomenon. To the Romans, there were only two races - Roman and barbarian.

You could be black as the night or pale and pasty white and you'd still be considered a Roman. So, by your own standard, having a black Ultramarine makes perfect sense.

Never mind that, as people have already mentioned, Ultramar is system of planets, so it would actually make more sense for the Ultramarines to be multiracial.

Ethnicity as we understand doesn’t really exist in 40K. The amount of time that passed means that skin color could evolve to something completely different. The cultures and languages of our time would be completely dead by then. All the cultures we know would be extinct and long forgotten.

So even if a planet was colonized by Europeans they could all have different skin tones depending on the evolutionary pressure. There’s also gene editing technology possessed by humans and Xenos that could result in humans changing with time. In this time span the ogryns and ratings have evolved too. So people being different skin colors probably wouldn’t matter as much.

In a setting as large as 40K people would likely identify more with their social standing and their planet of origin. So a black and white guy from maccrage would identify more with each other than they would with someone from Nocturne.

 

[TingoFranDingo]

That model is everything wrong with nu-Chaos in a nutshell, dumb, overdesigned, cartoonish and nonsensical.

The Veterans of the Long War, even at their most eccentric still have their ruthless practicality hammered in from their initial indoctrination.

I fucking hate the nu-Death Guard, put me off the faction.

Chaos stuff can definitely be hit or miss. I personally find the more corrupted stuff tends to be on the weaker side of the model ranges.
The more modest, or atleast purposeful, depictions of mutations can be fine and fun, even in the Death Guard, but the "lol lmao MEAT haha TUBES lol" or for some paintjobs for Death Guard, the "haha he's covered in SHIT hahaha" fucking suck.
DG suffers from this more prominently, but stuff like the Helbrute, Obliterators and most of the Possesed in CSM stand out too.

Dude's land raider is grotesque, not remotely fun or interesting to look at, and worst of all creatively uninspired. Glad he lost the competition he was in

 

[StevieLasVegas]

I mostly concur despite being a Chaos guy, but I disagree regarding Obliterators. I find their newer models better than the old ones. For Death Guard, I feel the new models are missing out on the old, grotesque nature of Nurgle like the Great Unclean Ones have.

As for the faggot's Land Raiser, I don't mind the mouth on the front ramp, but the rest feels... off. I mean it looks like something Chaos would have, but it doesn't invoke Nurgle to me.

 

[Humble Architect]

Chaos stuff can definitely be hit or miss. I personally find the more corrupted stuff tends to be on the weaker side of the model ranges.
The more modest, or atleast purposeful, depictions of mutations can be fine and fun, even in the Death Guard, but the "lol lmao MEAT haha TUBES lol" or for some paintjobs for Death Guard, the "haha he's covered in SHIT hahaha" fucking suck.
DG suffers from this more prominently, but stuff like the Helbrute, Obliterators and most of the Possesed in CSM stand out too.

Dude's land raider is grotesque, not remotely fun or interesting to look at, and worst of all creatively uninspired. Glad he lost the competition he was in

I blame them not starting the Chaos overhaul with CSM, I mean the cult legions shouldn’t be seperate armies but that’s a seperate issue.

They went off updating with no baseline and no desire to simply update the models. They had to add needless greebles and cartoonish garbage. Look at the FW/Vraks Plague Marines, armor variety (all legions used all marks) and they’re just big guys in beat up and corroded armor.

 

[Abella]

I played a pickup game against GSCs. I have this almost ancestral level fear of getting into close combat with genestealers stemming back to facing them with the ‘nids in 4th and 5th editions. I managed to remember to use the trigger word on my flagellants and was able to kill a lot of mutts with them and the repentia in close combat until the trucks got into range. My wife wants to pick them up now, but won’t until she finishes her DG.

 

[God of Nothing]

all things said and done, at least we haven't been invaded by the tau
disgusting creatures