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What a wonderful allegory for letting women into the police force. How can Games Workshop be so based?

Is joke.
This isn't the first time ''progressive'' companies made something that is accidentally based. Disney Star Wars did it more than a few times, especially with their Sequel Trilogy and the Filoniverse; the New Republic disarms itself and gets its gonads kicked in by First Order ex-Imperials. One of the groups that show up to save the day are the Mandalorians, who believe that guns are a part of their religion. The Ahsoka show where the female Jedi were supposed to take the lead has them making rookie mistakes and getting their asses beaten by powerful men like Thrawn and Baylan Skoll more than once.

I mean, hell, this isn't the first time GW did it themselves. They are the masters of accidentally making something based. Just look at the Space Marines and the Imperium as a whole. They were meant to be the worst of humanity, caricaturing right-wing military and religious conservatives, but to many people on the right, they are the best humanity can offer, because they will die fighting for their god, king, and country. Then they let women into the Custodes, and the Custodes lose over 75% of their battles.

That's just so based it's getting testosterone poisoning. I'm beginning to wonder if GW does these things on purpose, or if they're just that clumsy that they accidentally made things so based.

GW really likes screwing the pooch. I’m sure the next field update will reflect that.
I expect them to over-correct and make the Custodes too OP in the next patch. Or just not address the matter at all.

Them making a balanced game is like what if Team Rocket actually stole Pikachu and left Ash and his friends for dead.

Not surprised. Anyone who saw the rules before the femstodes knew they were going to be bad
I was going to buy a Custodes army before this, but after these rules came out, I decided to cancel all plans of it.

My theory that the FemStodes post was to focus attention on anything than the fact the new Codex was a readable trash heap is looking more true than I thought.
It's probably true. They're using the culture war to cover for the fact that they suck at their actual job, making a balanced wargame where all factions are properly represented in power.

Then again, I've heard that GW identified themselves as a miniatures company, not a wargaming one.
 
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Since you folks mentioned Trench Crusade a while ago, someone was late to the party. Wonder how long it'll take for him to realize it's already pozzed as fuck.
And of course the usual suspects are all celebrating on Twitter that people who want an escape can't escape from the troonery.
 
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Since you folks mentioned Trench Crusade a while ago, someone was late to the party. Wonder how long it'll take for him to realize it's already pozzed as fuck.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=95YGxcs0IdkAnd of course the usual suspects are all celebrating on Twitter that people who want an escape can't escape from the troonery.
I don't know how the fuck this guy is, but I've seen his stupid videos before and he's usually so laughably wrong about everything...
at 6:25 "the stock of games workshop not doing very well after the controversy"

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Is he literally retarded?
 
I don't know how the fuck this guy is, but I've seen his stupid videos before and he's usually so laughably wrong about everything...
at 6:25 "the stock of games workshop not doing very well after the controversy"

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Is he literally retarded?
He's Sargon's little pet. He takes everything the grifters say as Gospel, and that includes all the talk of GW stock tanking.

You're not dealing with someone who looks at objective facts; you're dealing with someone who usually preaches to the choir. So of course, he's wrong about a great many things.
 
reminder the sisters of battle were goge vandire's literal whores
Le ebbin warrior women organizations are so goddamn cringe. They're the thing you know some nerd came up with because no woman in their entire life has once thought of making a sorority that fought in life-threatening situations in any sort of context. Saying women can fight just as good as men is equivalent to troonism: a blatant denial of reality.
 
Ohh people think tabletop game design is easy I worked on a game for about 5 years it went nowhere also the entire dev team fell apart due to infighting I've never met more petty vindictive assholes than when I was designing TTRPG's
I never wanna design tabletop RPG's ever again the people I had to deal with made me hate ever trying to pick up spreadsheet design ever again
but the difference between these people and me is I've actually done it it's not hard well it is harder than you think but it's not as hard as you think

the difference between all of these people is I'm capable of doing it how from all my notes I have lying around and various document files I could probably create a half decent RPG's if I actually organize them but the I have to advertise it and it would probably appeal to these people and I'd probably banned them if I ever created a discord or something like that just out of principle that I hate these people this much

DM anyone who wants a copy start like it's finished anyways
 
reminder the sisters of battle were goge vandire's literal whores
Le ebbin warrior women organizations are so goddamn cringe. They're the thing you know some nerd came up with because no woman in their entire life has once thought of making a sorority that fought in life-threatening situations in any sort of context. Saying women can fight just as good as men is equivalent to troonism: a blatant denial of reality.
Thing is, I'm not against women fighting, but I only want the women who can actually fight at the same level that a regular man can fight in or more. Yes, the average woman is weaker than a man, hence why I only want the ones among them who can fight as good as men, which aren't common; they're about as common among women as giants and super-athletes are among men. They are there, but they're not as common as one might think.

As for the Sisters of Battle, I suppose you can justify it better if they were abhuman women who come from some worlds in the Imperium that breed tough women. Then you can write that usually, they're used as breeding women by the military, or whores by guys like Goge Vandire and other wealthy lords who like muscle-mommy-waifus to be chained up and plowed, but the Imperium passes a tax on them and take enough of these women to be given to the Ecclesiarchy and be made into Sisters of Battle.
 
As for the Sisters of Battle, I suppose you can justify it better if they were abhuman women who come from some worlds in the Imperium that breed tough women. Then you can write that usually, they're used as breeding women by the military, or whores by guys like Goge Vandire and other wealthy lords who like muscle-mommy-waifus to be chained up and plowed, but the Imperium passes a tax on them and take enough of these women to be given to the Ecclesiarchy and be made into Sisters of Battle.
It's not hard the sisters of battle use power armor and they are also powered up by the emperor's divine will
 
It's not hard the sisters of battle use power armor and they are also powered up by the emperor's divine will
But the baseline female before gaining both augmentations must be at least as strong as a combat-age man who joins the IG, if not moreso, since the Adepta Sororitas are the female counterpart of the Adeptus Astartes, who typically recruit male candidates who are stronger than the average man.
 
But the baseline female before gaining both augmentations must be at least as strong as a combat-age man who joins the IG, if not moreso, since the Adepta Sororitas are the female counterpart of the Adeptus Astartes, who typically recruit male candidates who are stronger than the average man.
Well yeah it makes logical sense that only the most fit females would take that branch when they join the Adepta Sororitas
I never liked when they appealed them being used as a backdrop for getting killed they should be some of the best soldiers in the imperium of man

also people saying the overall story of warhammer 40K not mattering and it not having a coherent cannon is stupid why would I ever get invested in something and be interested in it if it doesn't have a compelling story that doesn't change it's the same reason I'm really tired of the fallout series at this point and I never got invested in western comics I don't like reading stories that suddenly don't matter 5 minutes later it's extremely annoying and insulting to my intelligence
 
Thing is, I'm not against women fighting, but I only want the women who can actually fight at the same level that a regular man can fight in or more. Yes, the average woman is weaker than a man, hence why I only want the ones among them who can fight as good as men, which aren't common; they're about as common among women as giants and super-athletes are among men. They are there, but they're not as common as one might think.

As for the Sisters of Battle, I suppose you can justify it better if they were abhuman women who come from some worlds in the Imperium that breed tough women. Then you can write that usually, they're used as breeding women by the military, or whores by guys like Goge Vandire and other wealthy lords who like muscle-mommy-waifus to be chained up and plowed, but the Imperium passes a tax on them and take enough of these women to be given to the Ecclesiarchy and be made into Sisters of Battle.
it's probably been summed up before but the end result of trying to push women into warhammer is making a man with tits
i don't even mean they'll be space marines with tits: i mean they'll literally just be a man with tits stapled on and called a woman
the emperor, for some really contrived reason, will have made half his custodes men and the other half women
he would've had to gone out of his way to cut out the sex's physiology, behaviors, and functioning (like he did the men's) for the sake of having female custodes
but they'd have everything about them that was female taken away
 
Ohh people think tabletop game design is easy I worked on a game for about 5 years it went nowhere also the entire dev team fell apart due to infighting I've never met more petty vindictive assholes than when I was designing TTRPG's
I never wanna design tabletop RPG's ever again the people I had to deal with made me hate ever trying to pick up spreadsheet design ever again
but the difference between these people and me is I've actually done it it's not hard well it is harder than you think but it's not as hard as you think

the difference between all of these people is I'm capable of doing it how from all my notes I have lying around and various document files I could probably create a half decent RPG's if I actually organize them but the I have to advertise it and it would probably appeal to these people and I'd probably banned them if I ever created a discord or something like that just out of principle that I hate these people this much

DM anyone who wants a copy start like it's finished anyways
Was the game symmetric at least? Unless you can train an AI to autoplay matches in a competitive rank (which would include also team building) then balancing an asymmetric game is hard as fuck. You'd need dozens to hundreds of hours of gametime for every slight change. AND that's assuming your testers are both good enough to play at a competitive level while also not getting too stuck to a single army composition/strategy.

The only GW game that has any real hope of being somewhat balanced is HH.
 
I don't know how the fuck this guy is, but I've seen his stupid videos before and he's usually so laughably wrong about everything...
at 6:25 "the stock of games workshop not doing very well after the controversy"

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Is he literally retarded?
Let’s not be too harsh. He’s Romanian after all.
 
reminder the sisters of battle were goge vandire's literal whores
Le ebbin warrior women organizations are so goddamn cringe. They're the thing you know some nerd came up with because no woman in their entire life has once thought of making a sorority that fought in life-threatening situations in any sort of context. Saying women can fight just as good as men is equivalent to troonism: a blatant denial of reality.
Ironically enough troons don’t seem to like them. Every troon I’ve ever seen has played some form of space marines, custodes or ‘nids. I don’t know why they hate them so much, but they also hate biological women so it’s understandable. That’s part of why they push so hard for female space marines and coomed so hard to femstodes. They don’t want the existing female faction, they want women in an established faction that takes little effort to learn to play or is widely supported.

I like sororitas because they have a lot of units that pique my interest and are fun like immolators/castigators/exorcists or paragon war suits. The problem is people try to play them like space marines and then are disappointed when they lose.
 
It kinda makes sense to combine GK, DeathWatch, and imo also Sisters of Battle into a single Inquisition faction and making them all subfactions. Also let them take Kasrkins as basic troops too.
They sort of did that in an earlier edition to piggyback off the Inquisition TTRPG they released around that time. It had mixed results among players. They then split them back out into the GK/SoB for 5e, with 7e keeping that but letting them bring allied detachments. Still hasn't fixed the single biggest issue to the SoB, that being a complete lack of anything that can take down heavy units that has a range greater than a multi-melta. Not even a fucking missile launcher to their name.

Fans of the Deathwatch have been forced to eat shit non-stop and ask GW for seconds for the history of the entire game. The SoB may struggle at times but at least they have an army list unlike the Deathwatch.
 
Lets face it, these new announcements are pretty lame even the whole Skeventide announcement feels really flat. They were boomers about it and drew it out too long plus it got leaked ages ago before the femstodes. The Skaventide announcement feels like a really shit attempt of damage recovery but was nearly 2 months late. Come on GW you are a multi-billion pound company, you need to respond quicker.

Honestly the whole Skaven stuff just feels mid and with the fact its a memberberry attempt makes it just cringe.
 
also people saying the overall story of warhammer 40K not mattering and it not having a coherent cannon is stupid why would I ever get invested in something and be interested in it if it doesn't have a compelling story that doesn't change it's the same reason I'm really tired of the fallout series at this point and I never got invested in western comics I don't like reading stories that suddenly don't matter 5 minutes later it's extremely annoying and insulting to my intelligence
Sucks to be you, but that has always been Warhammer's canon policy. Like dude, there used to be half-Eldar Space Marines before 3rd edition. And before 8th edition, if you showed up to join any Space Marine chapter after you have your own geneseeds and armor given to you by Mars, the chapter would either tell you to take a hike or blow your brains out on the spot. Warhammer has never possessed a solid canon which has things that are canon to it or not.

It's not like other series, where Transformers Prime, War for Cybertron, and Fall of Cybertron are canon to the Transformers Aligned continuity, or how Gundam 0083 Stardust Memory, Gundam 08th MS Team, and Gundam Unicorn are canon to the Universal Century Gundam continuity. With something like say, Star Wars, old works like Dark Empire and the Thrawn Trilogy are canon to the old expanded universe, and new content like the Bad Batch and Mandalorian shows are canon to the new Disney Star Wars continuity. Mass Effect has the four games and the ancillary novels and comics as canon, Star Fox and Metroid have the games as canon, and Star Trek has the many different shows and movies as canon.

The same cannot be said for Warhammer, because the writers love to retcon things, and not just minor details, like whether or not Darth Vader can shoot Force Lightning from his hands, but the way the universe works and the feel of the setting outright. Having a canon would just get in the way of that. So they decided to be honest and say it's all subjective, there is no canon, so they can do whatever the fuck they want with the lore and wipe their asses with it without being held accountable to it.
 
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the difference between all of these people is I'm capable of doing it how from all my notes I have lying around and various document files I could probably create a half decent RPG's if I actually organize them
Can you share with the rest of the class? No seriously I'm interested if you have anything to share.
 
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