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The scale fits quite well actually. Any idea of what else you're adding onto it? Maybe a rear control panel or platform for a grot to stand on.
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Monster faces are expected to be inhuman and give more design leeway to do simple but distinct designs, when they go for human faces they always end up in the uncanny valley. Maybe it's just because the models are so small that they can't really do fine detail or something, so it all ends up looking like they've been beaten by a shovel.
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The exact opposite is true. The Prequels and the SWEU made it more grounded, more nuanced. Suddenly you understood why people would sign up for the Empire and blow up planets; the Republic was such a clown show that basically anything was better, be it the Empire or New Republic. That, and Star Wars was at its most profitable and enjoyable during the years of 1999-2011. That was its zenith.
Disney was fucked when it threw away the EU. All those fan-favorite stories, stories followed by hardcore fans who bought all the books, merch, and video games, and Disney threw it all away only to make shitty copies of them. That's why most of the fandom is mad, and why they walked away. Sure, throwing away the fluff made it easier for normies to get into the new lore and films, but the audience Disney tried to court are called ''normies'' for a reason; they're not hardcore fans, and once things get boring or something else comes along, they leave. So Disney pissed off the longtime hardcore fans for nothing, and the normies they chased moved on. That is why SW is failing nowadays. That, and the Filoniverse magic is gone; people have seen Filoni for what he is, a guy playing with action figures on the big screen who has a decent idea now and then, but not enough to carry a whole universe on his back.
This isn't like Warhammer where you have rich paypigs who will kiss GW's ass and buy all the plastic crack even after they've been fucked by a hundred price jumps. SW fans will throw the plate in your face and call the stuff you served ''tasteless slop'' if they don't like it.
That's because you can design the Xenos in any way, shape, or form, whereas the human faces look squished for a model. It's like how it's easier for a kid to draw an alien or a robot than an actual, realistic depiction of a human being.
The problem is how small they are. So all the human faces look squashed. Hence why some folks joke about male Sisters of Battle; half of them already look like mannish dykes-if there were some actual men among them, it would not be that surprising.
I think the best way to make female faces is to copy the anime style for it, but I don't think it'd translate well to a grimdark scenario. Too pretty and shapely a face for a woman who grew up in a galaxy that's practically hell. So yes, it would make sense that the women who'd survive and thrive are the muscular ones that look like men.
I mean, look at this.
Celestine herself looks somewhat feminine, but the other two have very masculine faces. Take away the boob-armor and change the hairstyle, and they'd pass as men perfectly.
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More grounded and nuanced? Are you having a laugh? They didnt make anythin grounded and nuanced, it was just shit writin tryin to plug up the holes. No matter how profitable it was, one thing was clear is outside of the 3 OG movies, nobody knew what to do or where to take this franchise, the prequels were a badly written mess, the SWEU ranged from laughble to cringe shit (Jedi cannot fall in love because they can apparently make black holes when angy, Sith zombies, Zombies an etc.) So what is going Disney isnt some weird sacrilige or whatever SW neckbeards cry about, it pretty much just shows how flimsy a idea of a franchise this was begin with.
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Looks like you really didn't know the EU very much. They added so much nuance to a basic story that it made Lucas an emperor of a corporate empire that was once the envy of everyone in Hollywood.
Also, the Jedi were made to be flawed from the start to explain why guys like Anakin fall. The Prequels were fine; they weren't perfect by any means, but they were good action movies with some decent commentary on politics at the time. [LOL DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS WITH ABSOLUTE POWER] It's way better written than anything 40K has cooked up, since the writers for SW aren't beholden to a status quo. The Republic can die, the Empire can die, the Jedi can die, the Sith can die. Hence why it actually has stakes on the plot.
Also, Jedi can't make black holes when angry. When have we seen that? Most Jedi who go mad snap people's necks with telekinesis or shoot lightning from their fingers. Also, the Dark Side users playing with life and making zombies makes sense considering that they sought immortality; and it was just a subsect of Darksiders who used zombies, the rest of the Sith just used soldiers or robots like everyone else.
Disney wouldn't spend 4 billion dollars on a fragile franchise. It was making money hand over fist and had a bigger fanbase than 40K ever had. But what they did was throw out all the lore that drew people to the franchise anyways, because spoiler alert, most fans don't watch the OT on repeat. They've been reading the books, playing the games, and passing them around for decades, and to be told that none of it matters just so some newbies won't get lost pretty much caused the fans to move on. Especially since Disney showed that they're willing to decanonize whole segments of the lore just for some movies to attract newbies, the fans who actually spend money on books and games just decided to wash their hands of the franchise and move on. Sure, they'll watch something like the Mandalorian if it's interesting, but if it's not, they won't care.
SW fans actually have backbone; they don't take it up the ass from Disney, and they certainly made more than a few complaints towards Lucasarts/Lucasfilm in the old days when some of the products didn't live up to their standards. [The Legacy of the Force and New Jedi Order novels, Force Unleashed 2, some of the Republic Commando books] Hell, their anger over TLJ insulting Luke caused the SOLO the movie to bomb. Meanwhile, GW raises prices and rapes the lore in half to sell more minis or to placate some nonexistant group of people, and 40K fanboys continue to buy the slop even though 3D printing renders it completely obsolete.
You can bitch about SW fans all you like, but the fact is, they actually had the moral strength to walk away from a franchise once the company tells the fans that they're too toxic to hang around with. Meanwhile, the smelly dice-throwers of the 40K fandom continue to take the abuse from GW up the ass, from the price hikes, to lore rape, and the pontificating, and yet they continue to buy like good little boys and girls.
Maybe if the SW fandom was as ''faithful'' as the Warhammer 40K fandom, Disney wouldn't have lost money over Star Wars.
If you're done whining like a little bitch, perhaps we can continue to talk about how some of GW's female models look a bit like men, and how that actually gives GW an avenue to insert trans characters since half the women look like men anyways. If half of them are men in drag, it wouldn't be that surprising........
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size does affect things, but you could argue heroic style isn't anatomically correct to begin with, no need for female models to look some like rural farmer's wife.
however I think part of it is that GW either doesn't care how the process ends up or tones it down to prevent any "coombait" when looking at the unpainted model. what I mean is the sculpt and the painted model at the end are two different things. you see that often with third party modelers where the STL looks like a 10/10 anime waifu, but due to size/lack of shading/lightning in the end looks "average" and hardly like it. still female, but nowhere near the original sculpt.
or put it this way, if GW models their females to look like the average 5/10 women, and most paintjobs substract 5 points, you can pretty much estimate what you end up with.
thinking about it it's similar to videogames, where the original model looks good, then gets facescanned and ends up looking like nikocado avocado. kinda like they don't look at the end-result, but trying to make sure the whole process it's never "too hot/too unrealistic" etc.
for example, compare the model with the actual outcome: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-ambar-female-cat-soldier-32mm-dnd-165662
(not dissing the paintjob, just saying that most can't/won't go all out to make the face look female, even with the best model)
just an advice, use thumbnails next time to not irk dear leader.
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As the pictures above that I've posted attest, GW models their females after men, then they change a few details to denote that they're women. Or men in drag. It could be either one, I don't know. Now that trannies are a thing in 40K, it could probably be both.
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Also, the Jedi were made to be flawed from the start to explain why guys like Anakin fall. The Prequels were fine; they weren't perfect by any means, but they were good action movies with some decent commentary on politics at the time. [LOL DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS WITH ABSOLUTE POWER] It's way better written than anything 40K has cooked up, since the writers for SW aren't beholden to a status quo. The Republic can die, the Empire can die, the Jedi can die, the Sith can die. Hence why it actually has stakes on the plot.
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The prequels werent fine, they sucked back and they still keep on sucking, their commentary was as fucking retarded as George Romeroa commentary in his zombie movies. Ah yes, the writers of SW arent beholden by a status quo, thats why Empire had remains in SWEU, thats why Palpy was brought back again in SWEU, which were fuckin canon.
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The prequels werent fine, they sucked back and they still keep on sucking, their commentary was as fucking retarded as George Romeroa commentary in his zombie movies. Ah yes, the writers of SW arent beholden by a status quo, thats why Empire had remains in SWEU, thats why Palpy was brought back again in SWEU, which were fuckin canon.
Theres a comic where Qui Gon tells Obi a story how two jedi brothers fell in love for one chick, one grew jelouse and they started fighting which created a black hole and wrecked a whole planet and yes this shit was considered canon.
The lore in SW horeshit to begin with, Lucas clearly had no ideas for lore and they just made shit on the spot, so neckbeards would suck it off and again that lore was a can of worms of retarded choices and decisions. So yes, outside of making money NOBODY not even fat McChin Lucas knew what to do with this franchise. If they kept the whole shit lore, it wouldnt have made an ounce of difference, anyone with a working brain could realize its retarded and makes no sense.
If SW had a backbone, they wouldnt be sucking off Lucas and trying to pretend the Prequils werent fucking sucking. If they had a backbone, they would call the whole SWEU a badly made garbage pile. But they didnt, instead they whine how "Disney raped mah childhood", so a bunch of grifter faggots can make money, while twats like you keep crying about "dem lefty wokies" in this topic like a broken record.
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It really wouldn't surprise me if they did introduce trans Sisters of Battle or men in drag among the Sororitas; I mean, it's the best course of action for them. They get to silence the people complaining about Fem Custodes, showing how they do the same for the female orders as they did for the male ones, they get to appease the woke crowd by ''bravely'' adding something with trannies in a hobby once dominated by male nerds, it's a win-win.
Last I checked, black holes were actually dark to the Force.
Jeez loweez, if this is you on a regular day, I'd hate to see what happens when you're actually depressed or angry.........
LOL the Prequels were better than most movies in the 90s and early 2000s. The only thing that ''sucked'' were a few lines of dry dialogue, for which the audience were more than compensated for with scenes of space warfare and duels that were better made than most fight scenes in that time. Also, the Empire remnants in the SWEU were weak warlord states that the New Republic was using as a punching bag, which is the exact opposite of what they were in the OT. Palpatine came back, but he was defeated. Ironically enough, not by the Jedi, but by an Imperial deep state that enjoyed having nobody to answer to after Endor and didn't like the fact that Palpatine returned. That is far from the status quo where the Empire was once all-powerful and Palpatine had the absolute loyalty of the Imperial state.
That was a story. Most Jedi who fall to the Dark Side don't make black holes; they just snap necks or shoot lightning. Or do some other Sith magic like draining life energies or creating illusions.
Last I checked, black holes were actually dark to the Force.
LOL SW lore was so good that even the older sourcebooks were used by later authors like Timothy Zahn for Heir to the Empire. The lore built upon what was laid down before and added to it, creating a living, breathing universe that, instead of each work being independent like in 40K, added to a greater tapestry of lore. And most fans with working brains loved the lore and didn't like Disney tossing it all out. Hell, some fans loved the lore more than the movies.
Aw, look at the little whiny bitch, angry that fans actually have a working canonical lore and good movies to love. The SW fans had no problems telling Lucasfilm in the old days whenever they made an oopsie, and they did the same for Disney.
Jeez loweez, if this is you on a regular day, I'd hate to see what happens when you're actually depressed or angry.........
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OK you faggots, we aren't doing this shit again, go stink up the Star Wars thread and keep that tangent out of here.
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Okay, fair enough. But seriously, why is this nigga even here? All he keeps is going but lefties and woke shit like a 7/11.
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You're the one who started whining about the Prequels and the EU, which has NOTHING TO DO WITH WARHAMMER 40K. I wanted to discuss how the models for females looked very masculine, and I even posted pictures of it as an example.
As for the woke shit, well, Warhammer 40K was born in woke shit. It was born in it, molded by it. To the point where some authors started freaking out when the Space Marines they created as a symbol of everything wrong with the right became idols among the fan community.
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I mean, ye I agree the models looks masculine. But, I doubt this has anything with woke shit, as pointed out before, GW always had issues with human models, heck even back in the day of their metal minis
Ye, we get it. But, you're seriously beating that drum into the ground with going about it on and on.
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I just read through the Regent's Shadow novel. Interesting concept, but at the end of the day, nothing much happened.
The whole ''Imperium Eterna'' thing was a better idea in concept rather than execution; it would've been nice if the concept lasted more than one novel. The idea that these rebel lords are against Guilliman's rule because of mortals needing to govern themselves is a good idea on paper, if only it was allowed to last longer.
Also, if it were me, I'd have tossed in the Marines Malevolent to support the Minotaurs and the Hexarchy. That would've been fucking hilarious to have them racking up collateral damage only for Gorillaman to come back home and be horrified by the damage.
The models look masculine probably because of convenience. Just take a model, alter it a bit, and call it a girl, mission accomplished. But now that they have trannies in the lore, well, GW can explain their masculine-looking female models as trans women.
The whole ''Imperium Eterna'' thing was a better idea in concept rather than execution; it would've been nice if the concept lasted more than one novel. The idea that these rebel lords are against Guilliman's rule because of mortals needing to govern themselves is a good idea on paper, if only it was allowed to last longer.
Also, if it were me, I'd have tossed in the Marines Malevolent to support the Minotaurs and the Hexarchy. That would've been fucking hilarious to have them racking up collateral damage only for Gorillaman to come back home and be horrified by the damage.
It has nothing to do with woke shit, but it does give them an opportunity to introduce woke shit. That was my point.
The models look masculine probably because of convenience. Just take a model, alter it a bit, and call it a girl, mission accomplished. But now that they have trannies in the lore, well, GW can explain their masculine-looking female models as trans women.
Oh, please. Soon GW will do something big and woke again and you people will be talking about it for weeks.
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I gotta ask what tranny you're even talking about. Cause, latching on that mention in a SoB feels like really stretching this bitch, to the point it'll snap.
You mean like the nothing burger FemStuodes thing that you jumped on, while every grifter was busy milking that shit for easy cash? Meanwhile, aside from lore groaners to whom Big E hiccuping suddenly is considered rape, most people were cringing at how bad the Codex was.
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Yeah something like that is the plan, maybe a few wires between the base and the back of the cannon
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I would also suggest that maybe adding some stuff that makes it seem like it was hastily slapped on.
Since it seems you're making an ork thing, probably the easiest thing to remember is that it should look like it was built in a favela outside the capital of brazil. The sphere? Slap a couple random pieces on the outside(warm them up for a bit so they can take the shape) to look like someone has riveted on some sheetmetal patches. In addition to the control panel, stick a couple levers on the other side that don't make sense because the operator can't reach them. Give the operator a little platform to stand on that looks like it was made out of some metal stolen from someone else's shed or fence(sharp edges, maybe some corrugated sheetmetal bits if you could pull that off, random rivets, shit like that).
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It's not stretching anything at all.
People are still talking about FemStodes. And I rightfully called that a nothingburger since I already whined about how the Primaris broke the lore in the past and nothing happened, outside of GW stock growing. But then again, 40K lore is like toilet paper; tomorrow they could introduce female Astartes, male Sororitas, and the Big E comes back as a brown transexual Mexican woman, and neither you nor the paypiggies would care.
But then again, why should you? The lore was non-canon slop from day 1, and GW openly said so multiple times. It might as well not exist for a good chunk of tabletop players.
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