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xXEddie.DurellXx said:
saw no discussion on this what do you think about space marine 2s pre-order crap and how it will launch?
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Looks fairly standard for modern day gaming slop, and as such can fuck right off IMO. There is absolutely no benefit to the customer in pre-ordering in the digital age, it exists solely for the benefit of the companies, and is a large contributor to why games are so fucking broken and shit at launch.

SIMIΔN said:
The DLC is still expensive, but the vanilla game is more than playable.
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*cough* CreamAPI *cough*
 
AncientPhosphur said:
GW terrain can be really good or really bad (and stupidly over priced) but it’s so jam packed with details that it all turns into a massive project. I just based my gallowdark terrain in a rust red and highlighted some doors, screens, and pipes but if I was really autistic I could spend months getting the perfect rusted aged and abandoned interior look down. But it’s just terrain and I don’t think anyone is going to be too bothered.
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I remember an LGS where I was at having a bunch of Pegasus hobbies terrain. I went in one day and bought a bunch of it and assembled it. It’s good quality and could pass off as any other game besides 40K. I liked it a lote more than GW’s and for a fraction of the price. There’s an old citadel book that used to show how you could make terrain with stuff but they’d never reprint it these days.
 
HistrionicBitch said:
Got the Long War box, did some stuff to the new Chaos Lord sculpt. Power flail, rotfly on his shoulder, deathshroud head, and a nurgle icon.
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I'm surprised he has a plasma pistol. I can imagine a Nurlge marine would be using bolters with rounds tipped with poison, or rounds that explode with poison gas.
 
Humble Architect said:
Remember guys, they totally dont have a codex coming.
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It will never come out. The GW employee in charge was corrupted by Slaanesh and demands perfection, leading to him forming a cult in the basement and sacrificing live chickens and drinking their blood. Together with regular consumption of crack cocaine, they go on binges of editing the codex to be absolutely perfect, as Slaanesh demands.

What he doesn't know is that the basement was a deliberate choice - when the rains come and flood the basement again like they did a few years ago, this employee and their work will be washed away like tears in the rain, and She Who Thirsts will have a hearty kek before consuming his/her/their/xer soul.
 
Atypical Dog said:
It will never come out. The GW employee in charge was corrupted by Slaanesh and demands perfection, leading to him forming a cult in the basement and sacrificing live chickens and drinking their blood. Together with regular consumption of crack cocaine, they go on binges of editing the codex to be absolutely perfect, as Slaanesh demands.

What he doesn't know is that the basement was a deliberate choice - when the rains come and flood the basement again like they did a few years ago, this employee and their work will be washed away like tears in the rain, and She Who Thirsts will have a hearty kek before consuming his/her/their/xer soul.
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Slaanesh is too busy devouring the souls of Mr and Mrs Rackets to be bothered with the paltry offerings a GW employee could offer.
 
So i found out that GW raised their prices(Late i know) because they just cant stop being greedy. I like 40k and im a fairly casual enjoyer, i was or am considering starting with kill team, but after this price raises i dont know if i can see myself playing it in the long run. I know i can 3d print and my buddies dont mind but it suck that someone who shows interests has to drop near 3 digits on a product that they may not even like or get nerfed. I can partially understand why people are migrating to things like battletech
 
00R-Gundam said:
So i found out that GW raised their prices(Late i know) because they just cant stop being greedy. I like 40k and im a fairly casual enjoyer, i was or am considering starting with kill team, but after this price raises i dont know if i can see myself playing it in the long run. I know i can 3d print and my buddies dont mind but it suck that someone who shows interests has to drop near 3 digits on a product that they may not even like or get nerfed. I can partially understand why people are migrating to things like battletech
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"Near 3 digits"

More like 4 digits for actual normal play.

GeeDubs has their whales to keep them afloat.
 
Just Some Other Guy said:
I can vouch for Gladius. It's a fairly solid game I play once in a while.
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I've already uninstalled it.
I forgot how hard just-one-more-turn games are to stop.
24 hours over a weekend is insane.
I've experienced the full SM story, so I think stopping now is healthy.
East_Clintwood said:
*cough* CreamAPI *cough*
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I'm a poorfag but don't want to steal from the small indie studio when I've got so many uncompleted games to play.
Their DLC policy is horrid. Pay almost half a game's price for one additional faction, and still lock many of their units behind additional DLC unit packs.
Requiring DLC for DLC is bad, but at least the enemy can only use the DLC you have, so balance isn't ruined.
 
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Do you guys think this will deter people from consuming product or will they start to actually speak with their wallets?
 
00R-Gundam said:
Do you guys think this will deter people from consuming product or will they start to actually speak with their wallets?
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This is their third annual price increase in 3 years now. It's practically a regular event for the first half of the year. It didn't deter shit when they did it in 2022 or 2023 and every 3d printing related channel under the sun produced content about printing minis or terrain within the week.
2023 they claimed a 6% increase
2022 they claimed it was an increase of 5% with some products going up 20%

Now before 2022, they didn't make public announcements on warcom, but they still did it anyway.
2019, they simply sent a notice to retailers about price increases
2018 it was a forgeworld price increase that went unannounced, and didn't stop shit
2017, they bumped prices up 3%

The value of the company has been skyrocketing this entire time. Unless the products are insanely stupid(like the 9th edition black templar army box), they sell out damn near instantly(usually within minutes on their own website). People will complain, plenty of people will continue to spend. It's like complaining about microtransactions or lootboxes in video games at this point. It doesn't matter how many people complain, when EA can still make a billion dollars a year in microtransactions for a single game.
 
Humble Architect said:
It rocks, Orks and Chaos let you just slap shit together and have a grand time doing it.

For Orks just make it looked riveted and for chaos just make it spikey and organic. I’d like to do a Daemon World board/terrain to do local games on. After chopping through the backlog of course.
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Was it Gorkamorka that had the 'you can have as many Boyz on your truck as models you can balance on it' rule? That was a fun time.
 
TingoFranDingo said:
former more than the latter, but the price tag is more just a sore spot than a breaking point for most
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And that is why GW wins. They know that the people whining about price increases will keep coming back despite their complaints. It's like crack addicts complaining that the local druglord raised his prices, but they still buy his crack, so he doesn't care for their complaints.

p1138 said:
The value of the company has been skyrocketing this entire time. Unless the products are insanely stupid(like the 9th edition black templar army box), they sell out damn near instantly(usually within minutes on their own website). People will complain, plenty of people will continue to spend. It's like complaining about microtransactions or lootboxes in video games at this point. It doesn't matter how many people complain, when EA can still make a billion dollars a year in microtransactions for a single game.
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And yet you will see no end to the videos claiming that GW's stock price is falling because of the Femstodes thing or because of Amazon. This really showed how flimsy the grifter right really is when it comes to evidence.

00R-Gundam said:
Do you guys think this will deter people from consuming product or will they start to actually speak with their wallets?
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Er.........no. If anything, they will keep buying.
 
So has GW bent the knee to the forces of degeneracy that want to destroy everything that is beautiful?

How much goyslop tier retconning is happening with established lore ? Will they rewrite Sanguinius as a being transcoded ?
 
Armor of God said:
So has GW bent the knee to the forces of degeneracy that want to destroy everything that is beautiful?

How much goyslop tier retconning is happening with established lore ? Will they rewrite Sanguinius as a being transcoded ?
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Well considering this tidbit that just dropped:
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The idea that anyone's shitpost edit from a decade ago is now in GW's canon-fluff-bible because it slipped in there kinda makes the entire idea of canon pointless.
 
Armor of God said:
So has GW bent the knee to the forces of degeneracy that want to destroy everything that is beautiful?

How much goyslop tier retconning is happening with established lore ? Will they rewrite Sanguinius as a being transcoded ?
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Bent the knee? My dear boy, they've been on the side of the woke since the start. Also, they've been retconning lore as far back as the 80s and 90s. And even before the Femstodes, they had the Primaris, which broke the Space Marine lore in half, yet they sold really well.

If you hear how most of the fanbase talk, you'd think they'd only support 40K if it stayed in the 3rd-7th edition lore and if they BTFO'd the Primaris and brought back the Firstborn Marines. Yet for every step GW has moved away from that ideal, their stock price has been doing well. Even when they raise the price tag for the miniatures, the customers keep buying. So while the ''fans'' say they want one thing, their wallets and GW's stock price tell the opposite.

HistrionicBitch said:
Well considering this tidbit that just dropped:
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The idea that anyone's shitpost edit from a decade ago is now in GW's canon-fluff-bible because it slipped in there kinda makes the entire idea of canon pointless.
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Here's GW's response whenever people ask them about Warhammer canon:

"With Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, the notion of canon is a fallacy. [...] Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 exist as tens of thousands of overlapping realities in the imaginations of games developers, writers, readers and gamers. None of those interpretations is wrong."

Gav Thorpe, Lead Designer, Games Workshop

"It all stems from the assumption that there's a binding contract between author and reader to adhere to some nonexistent subjective construct or 'true' representation of the setting. There is no such contract, and no such objective truth."

Andy Hoare, Game Designer GW

"There is no canon. There are several hundred creators all adding to the melting pot of the IP."

Aaron Dembski-Bowden, co-author Horus Heresy series

It basically highlights that whenever people act like Warhammer canon is some kind of holy text that's sacrosanct, they're tourists who haven't been Warhammer fans for long. Warhammer 40K never had a canon, since it's just easier for GW to introduce changes that way. Every time fans whine that GW broke the lore, their official answer is "we don't care" and they keep on going.
 
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