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WhimsicalTrolli said:
I appreciate you guys for helping me out with paints, where is the safe place and how many strokes of primer you guys recommend? The gunpla thread recommended Mr Hobby/Mr Surfacer for the primer.
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Safe place? And 1 coat of primer is all you need.

Anyway. Ye,s Mr Surfacer is probably the best primer on the market. However, it's not a necessity. Any matte rattlecan primer will do just fine. Mr Surfacer comes in tiny bottles and tiny rattlecans and is expensive for the amount you get. I've used it myself on a few models, but... I wouldn't recommend someone bother with it to start. It's not like it's bad or difficult to use(can't brush it on, need an airbrush for the bottle if you want to get a decent coat with it), but the benefit if you're just starting out and haven't even worked out your own personal taste regarding thinning your paints just won't make a difference for you at the beginning. It's a product(unless you're in a part of the world where it actually is cheap) that is best for when you're doing your best work if that makes any sense. You'll know when you should switch from a basic rattlecan primer to mr surfacer by the time you've got a playable army painted.

If I were you, I'd get some decent real sable brushes, in addition to the cheaper synthetic stuff. Cheap brushes for base coats, sable brushes for painting details. Don't go with some absurdly tiny 000 size or something either, the point(which is a quality thing) is more important than the actual brush size.

Watch this as a start. I don't want to sound like I'm riding Vince's dick or something but the fact is he's got one of the best channels out there explaining things, doesn't charge money for any of his content, doesn't shove any off topic rainbow alphabet bullshit or right ring grifting politics into his videos, and so on.

He's got an entire playlist dedicated to beginner topics that I would suggest anyone getting into mini painting sit and watch https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcdsbwBroEmCplpQ_s3jSuxW8-1KQrsfT
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
I mean like garage, outside and such like that.
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Ah. Well.. you just have to use some sense. If you've got things in the garage you don't want to risk getting paint on... obviously don't do it. Make sure you've got ventilation. Might as well just go outside and do it unless it's raining or something.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
I appreciate you guys for helping me out with paints, where is the safe place and how many strokes of primer you guys recommend? The gunpla thread recommended Mr Hobby/Mr Surfacer for the primer.
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Outside and get a cardboard box to use for a spraying your minis, it’ll soak up all the off-spray, you know, to protect your garage, house, fence or whatevers. If you’re using a rattlecan this is also good because that has more off-spray and the things that live outdoors don’t need that poison to ruin their day.

Rattlecans only need one, keep your minis a fair distance away too, keep calm, and do passovers, don’t hold the can in place, if it takes you six short bursts to base the mini then so be it, one long blast clots detail.

Black is good if your mini has multiple materials making it up that might be different colours, this can and will bleed over to the paint job if you don’t blot it out. Like if you green stuff on a cloak to a plastic mini that also has resin shoulders, it’s good to base them dark, to ensure consistency.
 
What are the best red, yellow's and whites? I see those are the toughest colors to get ready. I did see stahly's video on yellow paints recommended AK's, two thin coats & vallejo's sun yellow. Haven't seen much on white or reds.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
What are the best red, yellow's and whites? I see those are the toughest colors to get ready. I did see stahly's video on yellow paints recommended AK's, two thin coats & vallejo's sun yellow. Haven't seen much on white or reds.
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What kind of red are you looking for. This is like asking "which music notes are the best" since it will largely depend on what you are looking to achieve.
Yellows are all over the place, you should find a paint with a high pigment concentration so you won't have to layer like a brickbuilder. Vallejo, AK and Pro-acryl are always good.
For a white, get yourself a tube of golden acrylics titanium white and mix whatever amount you wish with a matt varnish and flow improver. It will outlast your lifetime.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
What are the best red, yellow's and whites? I see those are the toughest colors to get ready. I did see stahly's video on yellow paints recommended AK's, two thin coats & vallejo's sun yellow. Haven't seen much on white or reds.
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I use Vallejo's white acrylic-poly surface primer. It's already thin enough that you can brush it on directly or dilute for an air brush. My primer needs are a little niche because I'm only working on ABS-like UV resins and not GW's plastic. It works really well as an undercoat for speed/contrast paints and can be built up with metallics for translucent technical paints like Citadel's tesseract glow.

Speaking of, I only use 2 Citadel products; Tesseract glow for Necrons and nihilakh oxide for Chaos Knights. I'm not sure what the name for these kinds of paints are and haven't been able to find alternatives from other companies. I'd love to get something like tesseract glow but in a different color. It looks fantastic on plasma coils.
 
augment said:
What kind of red are you looking for. This is like asking "which music notes are the best" since it will largely depend on what you are looking to achieve.
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Oh yeah my bad. I'm looking for a bright red for mechas.

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KonradCruise said:
Apparently GW is republishing older collections with some of the new, lame, clean art.
The chad high detail edgy cover
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The virgin, low energy art style
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I fucking hate the redone covers. Way too clean and uninteresting. Also all of them are boring single character on bland background, it's just lazy. I wouldn't be surprised it saves them a nickle on paying the artist
 
Space Marine II is looking pretty good.
It seems they'll be fighting Thousand Suns as well as the Tyranids.
 
Janusz z Gliwic said:
40k has potential for almost any game but nah, more space marines.
That's why I loved rogue trader, for once it was not derp marines worship.
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There are more games than just about space marines, but most of them are shit. GW seemingly hands out their license to any developer willing to assign a profit sharing agreement since it costs basically nothing on GWs part and is pretty much pure profit adding to a few million(I think it was around 25-30 in the last report?) to their bankroll.

The trouble is that since most of them are shit, people simply don't remember them. There's been at least 3 ork games in the past couple of years, at most people discuss the sidescrolling shooter one? The aircraft one was some mobile shit ported to PC, and the car battle game is fucking boring after about 30 minutes when they've done public betas for it.
Sisters of battle got a game, no one talks about it because it was a fucking VR game of all things(niche within a niche within a niche).
Darktide has potential but the devs move painfully slow producing a new level maybe every 6 months(I think it finally gets another one this week? the last they added was... November?).
Mechanicus was about admech, but it was a weird... not quite x-com rogue-lite thing that played more like a boardgame.
Battlesector has a few factions, but plays like someone listened to a 40k batrep with no video and then made assumption about how the rules work or GW demanded they make it dissimilar from the tabletop so no one could get their fill of 40k in without having to actually play 40k.
Necromunda hired gun was kind of a boring looking FPS.
Necromunda Underhive wars was another "make sure it's different enough" to the point where no one was really interested in it.

And these are just going back the last 4 years or so for games that don't feature or don't focus entirely on space marines(there's also chaosgate, but that's literally just xcom grey knights, who are just special snowflake space marines).

At least you're not hoping for AoS/old world games. Because holy shit, that mess is even worse once you get beyond total war. Bloodbowl 3 was a mtx laden mess that didn't even work for a month after launch(you'd get score screens from other peoples games and all kinds of other weird shit). That realms of ruin rts was fucking awful. There was another VR only sigmar thing... so bad.
 
p1138 said:
There are more games than just about space marines, but most of them are shit. GW seemingly hands out their license to any developer willing to assign a profit sharing agreement since it costs basically nothing on GWs part and is pretty much pure profit adding to a few million(I think it was around 25-30 in the last report?) to their bankroll.
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Eldar had Rites of War, it was a good game. That was about 25 years ago.
...so there's that too.
 
p1138 said:
And these are just going back the last 4 years or so for games that don't feature or don't focus entirely on space marines(there's also chaosgate, but that's literally just xcom grey knights, who are just special snowflake space marines).
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And no one remembers Gladius or Inquisitor to even mention they don't remember them; both are supposed to be pretty good in their genres but overshadowed.
 
20 versions of Space Hulk games , the Tactics game was decent but got dropped by the developers after one or two patches.
 
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